MCU: Captain America vs Captain Marvel

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Poll MCU: Captain America vs Captain Marvel (76 votes)

Steve 33%
Carol 67%
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Rules

  • Steve has Mjolnir and his shield
  • Morals off
  • Random encounter
  • No BFR
  • Fight to the death
  • Battle on Asgard (Start 200 feet apart)

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Cap stomp. The one with boobs.

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Steve.

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#4  Edited By RajjarsAlt

Carol. At best you could put Steve against Thanos and it would go either way but she's way too strong and durable.

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#5  Edited By GangOrca

@rbt said:

Cap stomp. The one with boobs.

Steve's got bigger boobs though.

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@gangorca said:
@rbt said:

Cap stomp. The one with boobs.

Steve's got bigger boobs though.

Not the ones I'm interested in though.

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CM wrecks like really hard. After laying the pain on Thanos for a couple seconds he got utterly destroyed. At one point Thanos one shot him during the battle. Pre ragnarok thor level stats aren't going to cut it against CM.

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It took Thanos pretty much 15 seconds to beat Cap once he got going.

Honestly CM makes short work of Cap.

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Captain stomps.

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The first avenger wins..as she always has.

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She'd beat the crap out of a small army of Steve's. Get over it.

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On-topic, Captain Marvel stomps.

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Captain america can resist the lasso of truth.

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I'd back Steve but I can see an argument for Carol

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I’m more curious to see a argument for Steve.

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Captain Marvel. The correct answer is Captain Marvel.

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Captain Marvel.

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I’m more curious to see a argument for Steve.

There isn't one

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@money_brings_happiness: CM wrecks like really hard. After laying the pain on Thanos for a couple seconds he got utterly destroyed. At one point Thanos one shot him during the battle. Pre ragnarok thor level stats aren't going to cut it against CM.

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The most Cap gets are a couple of smacks with Mjolnir

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Steve stomps...

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#23  Edited By hkesupermantis

There's no argument for Steve because everyone knows Carol is the only answer, they just voted for Steve because bias and leaves in silence.

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Captain america can resist the lasso of truth.

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Your gifs are getting better.

OT: Carol wins.

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Really don't see how this is a stomp in either's favor.

Going with Carol, though.

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Carol can absorb the lightning. Mjolnir won't be much beyond that tbh

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Steve stomps...

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@rajjarsalt: Carol doesn't have many if all absorption feats in the MCU. With only one quote in a guide indicating she has them

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Captain Marvel easly too.

Better power better speed better durability better AoE better evrything other than skills and good look.

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@rajjarsalt: Carol doesn't have many if all absorption feats in the MCU. With only one quote in a guide indicating she has them

She has one that is perfect for a match like this. She can absorb tons of electricity and it's the way she turned Binary as she unlocked her true powers

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If Carol isn't dumb then she would just blast Steve endlessly with her photon blast that hurt Thanos until he dies.

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Carol can absorb the lightning. Mjolnir won't be much beyond that tbh

Oh yeah, that's also a big advantage she has.

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@rajjarsalt: That wasn't her absorbing power from the station. That was the SI shorting out.

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#34 Viking1205  Online

Carol quite comfortably

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#35  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@greysentinel365 said:

@rajjarsalt: That wasn't her absorbing power from the station. That was the SI shorting out.

What? No, I wasn't referring to that. She drains the electricity from Mar-Vell's lab and the prison locks

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At least ground Captain Marvel to make this more even.

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Carol having flight, ranged weaponry, and speed makes this a stomp in her favor, regardless of Steve’s performance against Thanos.

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You gotta nerf Cap. Marvel to make this even remotely fair.

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#40  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@greysentinel365 said:

@rajjarsalt: Got a clip or gif?

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She doesn't even need to be touching it, from the looks of it. Electrical currents have traveled in the air from her so it should be fine.

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@rajjarsalt: That exactly what I was referring to. That's the SI messing with the ship. Not Carol.

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@rajjarsalt: That exactly what I was referring to. That's the SI messing with the ship. Not Carol.

Then how would she turn Binary? Where else would that excess energy come from?

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#43  Edited By Greysentinel365

@rajjarsalt: Ummmm the chip? She overloaded it. "Binary" isn't a separate mode for MCU Carol it's just her using her full power.

She didn't absorb anything it's all just her going full power.

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#44  Edited By RajjarsAlt

@greysentinel365 said:

@rajjarsalt: Ummmm the chip? She overloaded it. "Binary" isn't a separate mode for MCU Carol it's just her using her full power.

She didn't absorb anything it's all just her going full power.

Binary is definitely carrying a difference in terms of power levels altogether. And it's really visually obvious. It allows her to transcend entire tiers when it comes to that. https://www.artofvfx.com/captain-marvel-craig-hammack-vfx-supervisor-industrial-light-magic/

Plus it's documented as a specific energy as well...so...

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It's also seen in Endgame as well, also documented in script when she does it.

She's confirmed to absorb part of the SI's energy blast just by it hitting her IIRC.

https://www.artofvfx.com/captain-marvel-paul-butterworth-vfx-supervisor-and-jason-bath-vfx-producer-animal-logic/

If she just overloaded the chip I doubt the ship would experience power shortage. Point is, she can absorb energy, has feats of doing so, and she can do it to Thor since electrical currents aren't anything special. And are probably easier to absorb since they conduct instead of dissipate on impact

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@xzone: Just to clarify Carol is in base right?

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Captain Marvel mid diff at most.

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@rajjarsalt:

Binary is definitely carrying a difference in terms of power levels altogether. And it's really visually obvious. It allows her to transcend entire tiers when it comes to that.

That's just her powering up though.

She's confirmed to absorb part of the SI's energy blast just by it hitting her IIRC.

Except that's a mental projection.

If she just overloaded the chip I doubt the ship would experience power shortage.

It didn't experience a power shortage. The power fluctuated due to the power of the SI. If the stations power was actually being drained it wouldn't have powered up again when she stopped. Even the cuff power back on when they hit they floor. They're not being drained.

It's also seen in Endgame as well, also documented in script when she does it.

The Endgame script reinforces that it's just something she can do

TONY’S HUD: TONY FLIES OVERHEAD, SEARCHING UPWARD.

TONY: Friday, what are they firing at?

FRIDAY (O.S.): Something just entered the upper atmosphere.

Rocket looks up at...A COMET HEADING STRAIGHT FOR EARTH.

GROOT (nervous): I am Groot.

Rocket grins, knowing what’s coming. ROCKET Just wait for it. SUDDENLY, THE COMET VEERS...RIGHT TOWARD THE SHIP. BOOM! THE COMET TEARS THROUGH THE SANCTUARY-2, RIGHT OUT THE OTHER SIDE, REVEALING...CAROL DANVERS.

ROCKET (CONT'D): Oh, yeah!

CAROL GLOWS BRIGHTER AS SHE GOES BINARY, ROCKETING AGAIN THROUGH THE HULL. BOOM! THE SHIP LISTS, ENGINES EXPLODING. CAROL EYES THE BATTLEFIELD, EXHAUSTED, LIGHT FADING.

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In the script Carol never takes any shots from Sanctuary so there's nothing to absorb. She just goes Binary on her own. It's just something she can do.

Again we've never had a confirmed instance of Carol absorbing energy on screen

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#48  Edited By RajjarsAlt
@greysentinel365 said:

@rajjarsalt:

That's just her powering up though.

Except it's outright stated to be a great gap between her standard power lvls and what Binary is . If she was always at that state they wouldn't have made painstakingly clear efforts to make a distinction between Binary and what she is normally. Even for that Endgame script you posted, Binary was written to take alot out of her, so the distinction is pretty much there.

Except that's a mental projection.

That doesn't negate anything. Absorbing in a mental projection + multiple times confirmed ability to absorb energy is enough to warrant the notion that she can absorb energy.

It didn't experience a power shortage. The power fluctuated due to the power of the SI. If the stations power was actually being drained it wouldn't have powered up again when she stopped. Even the cuff power back on when they hit they floor. They're not being drained.

Fluctuation is change. Change is increase and/or decrease, gain or drain. No one is saying she drained the full power supply but that energy definitely got taken out because that is what we see on screen, ie she applies basic energy manip, different things lose power. The fact that she's confirmed to do the very same in the mental projection around the same time is also helpful since they're using that ability multiple times over. She certainly can exert charge on different areas without even trying, which is supported by all these statements along with her flying near some electric lines when she visits Yon Rogg for the final time.

Why would the SI's power be responsible for freeing the prisoners? There's a limited amount of abilities Carol has, and if one of them is backed by multiple sources of intent it is reasonable to assume that she is able to cause power fluctuations with her ability to absorb energy. Does she have any other power that allows her to do so?

Where's the evidence that it being overloaded causes the temporary power loss? It seems too good to be a coincidence, atleast in terms of what we know she is stated to be able to do. I don't think it's reasonable to attach the photon inhibitor to those different spots. She's trying to free her friends and there's really only one way she's capable of doing so. Sure, the photon inhibitor gets rekt but that doesn't necessarily discount her energy absorption abilities.

And I wouldn't say the intent is as complicated as this. She absorbs, their restraints lose power. Simple.

In the script Carol never takes any shots from Sanctuary so there's nothing to absorb. She just goes Binary on her own. It's just something she can do.

...What?

They're firing at her in the beginning of the quote you posted.

Again we've never had a confirmed instance of Carol absorbing energy on screen

The SI blast is legitimate enough and it was confirmed. Do you think it's coincidence she's getting stronger in the projection that at the same time the SI is blasting her? Statements alone are enough, tbh.

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#49  Edited By HydratedFubuki6

@gangorca said:
@rbt said:

Cap stomp. The one with boobs.

Steve's got bigger boobs though.

lol, actually true.

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Steve still stomps. Comparable, if inferior, stats with the hammer to lay the absolute smack down on Carol and he’s tiers upon tiers more skilled on top of that. Stats alone can’t save you when you can’t hit your opponent worth a damn.