Mcu Captain America and Winter Soldier vs Cw Deathstroke and Green Arrow

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#1  Edited By scarypg

Bucky is in WS mode, has vibranium arm and 1 combat knife

Cap is civil war version

Deathstroke is on mirakuru,have promethium armor and have 1 sword

S7 Green Arrow has standard gear with unlimited arrow

All bloodlusted

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Team MCU

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@scarypg: Close distance means a close quarters fight, where either of Team MCU beats their opponent or stalls long enough for the other to help.

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It doesn't matter how far or close this fight is. Arrow and Deathstroke are plainly out of their tier here. Cap&Bucky stomp.

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Green Arrow and Deathstroke stomp. Better physicals, better regen (specifically Slade - mirakuru serum is a miracle), durability (again, slade, but oliver isn't lacking in this regard), and skill.

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Green Arrow and Deathstroke stomp. Better physicals, better regen (specifically Slade - mirakuru serum is a miracle), durability (again, slade, but oliver isn't lacking in this regard), and skill.\

Edit: I just saw that Oliver has unlimited arrows. Yeah, team CW wins.

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They don't have a chance....2 super soldiers vs a peak human and a slightly above peak human...lol

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Team 2 stomps. With bloodlust and standard gear, some super soldier limbs will be flying off their bodies.

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#12  Edited By Isocom79

I love Arrow, but the Arrow wank is real...lol

Deathstroke and Arrow get hammer smashed by just Bucky. Cap gets schwarma.

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Team 2. I don’t think people realise how far the skill gap between Cap and Oliver is.

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@isocom79: I don’t even think you believe that.

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@isocom79 said:

@octavian130:

They don't have a chance....2 super soldiers vs a peak human and a slightly above peak human...lol

??? Both of them are easily superhuman, and i can name a couple of feats of Oliver's in particular that trumps about half of Cap and WS's feats.

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Of course i do. How do you think Oliver can injure Captain America or Bucky at all?

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@isocom79: pressure points, pick him apart with superior skill and arrows. Oliver has already defeated opponents who are far stronger than him, this will be no different. Cap won’t have the luxury of just one shotting Oliver, he’d actually have to use skill where he’s outclassed.

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@isocom79 said:

@ready_4_madness:

Of course i do. How do you think Oliver can injure Captain America or Bucky at all?

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@ready_4_madness:

Yea, Captain America is far superior to Oliver Queen.

Oliver can injure Captain America in many ways. He's no stranger to superhumans, as he's repeatedly shown by answering the question of 'What would GA do if he faced someone that can't feel pain?' Easy! - Slicing their tendons! https://gfycat.com/ellipticalediblecod#?speed=0.9 He's faced skilled opponents before, and defeated them where previously, they curbstomped Oliver into the ground.. such as Ra's al Ghul, https://gfycat.com/oldfashionedgregariouscopperhead#?speed=0.9 who was doing this to oliver.. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11123/111232273/5991951-ra%27s%20combat%20speed%20gif.gif defeated Malcolm Merlyn https://gfycat.com/imperturbablejaggedgeese (admittably, Oliver got a lot better and Malcolm was kind of complacent in his League training) who's done this to Oliver.. https://comicvine1.cbsistatic.com/uploads/original/11123/111232273/5993477-merlyn%20h2h%20gif%202.gif

Not to mention some of his more impressive feats.. taking who knows how many hits from the Flash.. https://gfycat.com/impressivescientificalaskajingle who at the point of that gif could do things like bust punching bags with no speed wind-up https://gfycat.com/famousopencollardlizard-respectthreads with a wind-up, break the sound barrier with a punch https://gfycat.com/sardonicdimaddax#?speed=0.9 and be faster than electricity https://gfycat.com/diligentcrispgreatwhiteshark#?speed=0.9 surviving impalement by Ra's sword, a fall off a mountain cliff and exposure to the elements. https://gfycat.com/evilfearfulbluebird tanking a explosion https://gfycat.com/conventionalanxiousatlanticridleyturtle#?speed=0.9 and another one (breaks a window and dents a car so strength feat also? https://gfycat.com/canineglamorousblackfish#?speed=0.9) Survived getting beat on by Cyrus Gold, who's strong enough to kick Oliver through a car door https://gfycat.com/hauntingenergeticairedaleterrier#?speed=0.9 rip a steel door reinforced with metal with enough strength that Det. Lance compared it to a forklift or a crane , Cyrus is stronger than Roy who's shattered concrete.. https://gfycat.com/blondhappybluetickcoonhound#?speed=0.9 punch through crates strong enough to tank bombs.. https://gfycat.com/shabbyscholarlybaboon#?speed=0.9

I can find more.

Also, he's reacted to the Flash as well as tanking rapid-fire hits from him. https://gfycat.com/merryorneryladybug#?speed=0.9https://gfycat.com/thankfulemotionalhectorsdolphin#?speed=0.9

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#20  Edited By Isocom79

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And how many 58-ton bulldozers can Oliver Queen push? How many 35-ton steel girders can he lift after being beaten and shot by an equally strong Bucky? And he ripped a log in half with his bare hands, a log that would take roughly 7-tons of force to split. There is nothing anywhere to assume Oliver could do any of this, ever. AND he can casually run as fast as Usain Bolt does (27mph) for miles.

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Team CW in a close fight.

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@isocom79 said:

@octavian130:

And how many 58-ton bulldozers can Oliver Queen push? How many 35-ton steel girders can he lift after being beaten and shot by an equally strong Bucky? And he ripped a log in half with his bare hands, a log that would take roughly 7-tons of force to split. There is nothing anywhere to assume Oliver could do any of this, ever. AND he can casually run as fast as Usain Bolt does (27mph) for miles.

I mean he's capable of lifting 4 cinder blocks as part of a daily exercise routine, which https://gfycat.com/jollybackfairyfly-respectthreads-whowouldwin#?speed=0.8 thanks to math - i added their combined weight, and it would equal to 148 pounds total. I did that wrong, probably buut.... As for ripping a log in half, Oliver could do that because he's exerted more force breaking someone's neck, as commented by many people in the Arrowverse you will need to have at least i believe 1250 foot-pounds of torque to break someone's neck. Can't find the direct quote for that, but i can give you a gif of him doing it https://gfycat.com/periodicfamouscollie-respectthreads#?speed=0.8. And fine, Oliver isn't the Flash but he's able to dodge gunfire casually https://gfycat.com/calmcomplicatedkinglet-respectthreads-whowouldwin#?speed=0.8 dodge bullets casually https://gfycat.com/farawaysphericaljay-respectthreads-whowouldwin shoot a grenade shot out of a grenade launcher out of the air https://gfycat.com/littlespicyesok-respectthreads#?speed=0.9 outspeed Det. Lance and Vigilante's trigger fingers (lance) https://gfycat.com/milkyforkedalabamamapturtle-respectthreads (vigilante) https://gfycat.com/emptysomberirishterrier-respectthreads#?speed=0.9

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Oliver is faster, more skilled, has better gear and is extremely accurate, but Cap can bench press more. I wonder who wins.

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#24  Edited By WargodCalypso

The Arrow wank is stupid high on the vine. Cap and Bucky win this easy. Cap has taken hits from Ultron, Thanos, Iron man, and more super powered and durable beings. Oliver wont land any arrows before Bucky shoots him. If it came down to h2h. Cap and Bucky both could beat either one of them by themselves.

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@rbt said:

Oliver is faster, more skilled, has better gear and is extremely accurate, but Cap can bench press more. I wonder who wins.

Question concerning the Arrowverse - who was the one that said you needed 1250 torque of force or whatever it was to break a neck? Barry Allen, right?

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@rbt said:

Oliver is faster, more skilled, has better gear and is extremely accurate, but Cap can bench press more. I wonder who wins.

Question concerning the Arrowverse - who was the one that said you needed 1250 torque of force or whatever it was to break a neck? Barry Allen, right?

Yeah. In 2x08.

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#27  Edited By WargodCalypso
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There is absolutely no way Oliver and Slade is gonna put Cap down when he can take hits from Ultron

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#28  Edited By Isocom79

Cool. When Oliver pushes a 58-ton bulldozer, or deadlifts a 35-ton steel girder after being shot, or runs 70mph, rips a log in half with over 7-tons of force we can put him on Cap's level. Until then, Oliver Queen will just remain a well trained peak human.

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@wargodcalypso:

There is absolutely no way Oliver and Slade is gonna put Cap down when he can take hits from Ultron

There is absolutely no way Cap or Buck can put down Oliver when he survived multiple hits from a Kryptonian.

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Team 2 destroys.

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@rbt:

There you go wanking Oliver Queen again.