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The MCU team shall be given 1 year of prep time to work together and create a formidable suit of armor! Time travel during prep time is banned, otherwise everything else is fair game. Once this suit of armor (Refer to it in this thread as MK Prime) is complete, the'll have to select a competent enough wearer to face the rounds listed down below.

MCU Team

  1. Tony Stark
  2. Hank Pym
  3. Janet Van Dyne
  4. Rocket Raccoon
  5. Bruce Banner
  6. Shuri

And the rounds are in order as:

Round 1

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Batman is equipped with a composite suit of all the batman armors shown on-screen
Batman gets one year prep to upgrade his composite suit with newer and more powerful modifications
Fight takes place in a large grass field, 100 meters apart

Round 2

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Aquaman gets Atlan's trident
Fight starts 100 meters below the surface of the pacific ocean
No summoning Karathen

Round 3

Fight will be against Flash and Cyborg simultaneously
Fight takes place in a large grass field, 100 meters apart
Cyborg can start in the air

Round 4

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Diana has full gear
Diana is blood-lusted
Fight takes place in a large grass field 100 meters apart

Round 5

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MK Prime has to face the Justice League minus Superman
Justice League is blood-lusted
Fight takes place in a large grass field 100 meters apart
MK Prime starts 100 meters in the air

  • Diana has full gear
  • Arthur has Atlan's Trident
  • Batman gets three months prep

Bonus Round

DCEU team brings together their own technological experts to try and do the exact same thing that the MCU team has done. DCEU team composes of:

  • Batman
  • Lex Luthor
  • Amanda Waller
  • Several Atlantian Scientists (3)

DCEU team gets one year prep like the MCU team
At the end of their respective years, the MCU team and DCEU team take their completed armors and square off!

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What are the win conditions?

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They should clear easily with one year prep.

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#6  Edited By TheGerudoKing

Team MCU has access to vibranium, Pym particles, quantum energy and a Moon busting weapon according to Rocket.

All these in the hands of a master level engineer that has perfected the art of building armor suits with sophisticated AI.

Team DCEU doesn't have a chance with their own armor suit. And they lose every round against the MK Prime.

Another decisive win for team MCU.

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Clear super easy.

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DCEU dies

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Honestly, I'd take Tony alone and his Endgame armor to make it to round 5. With the given rules/conditions (especially that one year of prep), they clear.

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Clears easily. You could even throw Supes in R5 and it wouldn't matter.

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@indomitableregal: MCU win until round 3

Why flash is too fast and solos most people

Flash punches faster than Hank Pym can shrink

Flash is faster than rockets, iron man, wasp and shuri’s lasers and bullets

Cyborg takes out hulk

Even with prep time, hulk prep

Wasp in MCU isn’t smart enough to build anything

Rocket is smart enough to prepare traps and wipe out out the moon busting weapon

Iron man is the only threat if flash gets to him he’s dead

Cyborg has the mother box and disable all technology so all prep is ultimately useless if it’s run by an A.I.

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Also forgot DCEU has Lex Luthor

It’s a lie to say that DCEU Lex Luthor is superior to MCU Tony just because Rebirth Lex is smarter than 616 Tony

But after BvS everyone knows he’s crazy enough to create a doomsday army if it’s complete war and has access to kryptonian DNA

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They clear the verse

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Clears easily. You could even throw Supes in R5 and it wouldn't matter.

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@mbatz: It would take less than the given prep time for this team to create a vibranium nano-suit comprised of billions of micro sized robots that can be grown into humanoids with pym particles. Also Rocket would toss in something fun. It wouldn't even be a conventional fight.

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@mbatz said:

@indomitableregal: MCU win until round 3

Why flash is too fast and solos most people

Flash punches faster than Hank Pym can shrink

Flash is faster than rockets, iron man, wasp and shuri’s lasers and bullets

Cyborg takes out hulk

Even with prep time, hulk prep

Wasp in MCU isn’t smart enough to build anything

Rocket is smart enough to prepare traps and wipe out out the moon busting weapon

Iron man is the only threat if flash gets to him he’s dead

Cyborg has the mother box and disable all technology so all prep is ultimately useless if it’s run by an A.I.

Yeah...no to all of that. I'm not sure if you understood the OP, but this isn't the six of them running a gauntlet. The MCU team gets 1 full year to build a composite suit of armor. Between the six of them, the amount of intelligence and resources is staggering. They're not gonna be taken out by Cyborg and the most incompetent member of the JL.

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#17  Edited By mbatz

@indomitableregal: @indomitableregal:

Bro u say that but I’ve just said the most rocket will do is set up traps and build guns that it

Wasp or Van dyne ain’t smart enough to actually contribute in anyway shape or form

Banner hasn’t shown any noteable feats of intelligence edit: in the MCU and no he failed making a time machine it was iron man who fixed his failed design

Shuri will contribute by giving them vibranium and adding a few futile gadgets

Tony is the only menace to the team

Cyborg has the mother box so they lost the moment the suit had an AI installed that’s what I was saying

Edit: Flash might be incompetent but he’s still the then anyone in MCU or at least who there facing

All he has to do is dismantle the suit

And anyone who’s watched justice league should remember that the mother box has enough energy to terraform a planet all cyborg has to do is place it on the suit they make

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@six-deuce: That is the smartest method I’ve heard so far just read your comment

But it wouldn’t work on cyborg, it would start to destroy him and cyborg wouldn’t know what to do but then the mother box itself would defend itself reprogramming the nano-robots

Superman would hear the robots coming and eventually see them and destroy them

Flash will die unless he starts running preventing them from staying on him since they’d have to enter through pores since he’s clothed it would enter through his face

But he’d most likely die

Aquaman would die unless he’s in water and plankton and other microscopic organisms tells him he’s got nanorobots on him

But he’d most likely die

But yeah everyone else would probably die

Leaving superman and cyborg definitely and possibly flash, aquaman and Batman

Why haven’t I said anything about Batman, cause I’m not sure but he’d probably live through it like how he survived darkseids lasers which hit superman

But yeah Batman and aquaman definitely if we’re including Shazam who isn’t apart of the league yet he’d also live why lightning would destroy the robots

Then superman, cyborg and Shazam would kill the guys who killed the their teammates

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@mbatz said:

@indomitableregal: @indomitableregal:

Bro u say that but I’ve just said the most rocket will do is set up traps and build guns that it

Wasp or Van dyne ain’t smart enough to actually contribute in anyway shape or form

Banner hasn’t shown any noteable feats of intelligence edit: in the MCU and no he failed making a time machine it was iron man who fixed his failed design

Shuri will contribute by giving them vibranium and adding a few futile gadgets

Tony is the only menace to the team

Cyborg has the mother box so they lost the moment the suit had an AI installed that’s what I was saying

Edit: Flash might be incompetent but he’s still the then anyone in MCU or at least who there facing

All he has to do is dismantle the suit

And anyone who’s watched justice league should remember that the mother box has enough energy to terraform a planet all cyborg has to do is place it on the suit they make

...So what you're saying is...you haven't actually paid attention to MCU movies lol. Pym is responsible for Pym particles and is the foremost expert on the quantum realm. Banner is half responsible for Ultron. Shuri has been shown to be just as smart as Tony and Banner. Tony basically figured out viable time travel in a day (without actually knowing what Banner was trying). It's likely Rocket knows more than he lets on, but even if he doesn't I'm willing to bet he knows people who know people lol (his comment to Stark: "You're only a genius on Earth"). And you're giving them a year? With Stark as a billionaire and Shuri having access to Wakanda? Hope doesn't even need to be here, and they'd still clear. You're expecting Flash to dismantle a microscopic vibranium suit made of nanotech (because let's be honest, that will all be incorporated)? Yeah, good luck with that. This isn't a debate worth having.

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#20  Edited By mbatz

@indomitableregal: So were are the facts

I never said Pym wasn’t smart at any point I said Wasp wasn’t smart.

So banners responsible for ultron, which is worse ultron or doomsday.

Creating Ultron isn’t even a feat he was a mistake.

All it shows is banners incompetence.

And banner continues to make mistakes like failed time travel and iron man solved time travel in an afternoon.

Shuri’s technology won’t hurt superman

And who cares about being Ironman being a billionaire there’s Batman you forget this.

Everything you have said doesn’t really give credit to intelligence to anyone that I haven’t already mentioned (Ironman is the major threat, pym is second everyone else is irrelevant)

And after all you’ve said u still haven’t told us anything about how they’ll hurt evade superman

And what’s to stop the mother box disabling the nanorobots.

Exactly nothing Ironman doesn’t know what a motherbox is.

Ironman is he only threat most of the DCEU will die that’s a fact.

But only superman or shazam and cyborg have to live to kill the who’ll MCU

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#21  Edited By NWName  Online

A nanotech hulkbuster suit that can grow to 300 ft via pym particles with firepower enough to level a country in minutes can be prepped in 1 day. With 1 year they absolutely demolish.

Hell pym made black hole bombs. He can solo with prep.

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#23  Edited By mbatz

@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: U do realise it doesn’t matter how big the suit is or whether u have a year of prep time or not

Scenario #1

Cyborgs mother box I’ll deactivate it or turn it on it’s creators. Period

Scenario#2

Superman if he sees it will automatically see that it’s made of small robots and use heat vision to destroy it done, vibranium is melted into shape after all

Scenario#3

Shazam, says shazam and fries the circuitry. Done

Also you guys keep making the assumption that the avengers will even build such a nanorobotic suit

If that’s the case why didn’t they do that in endgame to beat thanos. Tony Stark, Rocket Raccoon, Bruce Banner, Shuri were all there and they managed to recreate ant man suits so Hank Pym Janet Van Dyne are ultimately unecessary

The fact is it once the avengers believe they have prepared they’ll strike if their in character

And u can’t say they didn’t build it because they didn’t have prep time in endgame they had a time machine so they could have taken 20 years to build the robo suit

Hulk has broken an adamantium net in the fear itself comic type it up.

Adamantium>Vibranium

Superman will destroy vibranium

Just because something is “Virtually” indestructible in one universe doesn’t mean the same for another universe

Shazam or superman or cyborg destroy the MCU team

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@mbatz:

Cyborg, who uses motherbox tech, needed to connect to the batmobile to hack it. He is not hacking the suit which should have much better defences against it.

He barely melted a quarter ton of steel in a second. An armor that big made ot of something more durable than steel that constantly regenerates is not getting take out by heat vision. It would take days to taki it out that was and Superman has never showed the ability to use HV for more than a few seconds.

Even Ironman MK6 took light ing from Thor. It only made the Armor stronger.

They didn't because they didn't have enough Pym particles. They only had enough to time travel.

Comics are irrelevant in a LA battle. They have different canons. I nevers said vibranium was indestructible to begin with.

Team MCU destroys. They might even put a skyscrapper sized nuke and level a continent.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

Aight, cyborg might lose cause you have to imagine he’s was hacking the suit which might take too long.

But even if he didn’t hack eventually the motherbox itself will go into self defence mode by itself and hack that’s what I’ve said if you read previous posts.

You said superman has only melted a couple of tonnes of steel at a time right. But him and Zod were lasering building in half (okay not quite in half but you get the picture)

Superman can use heat vision however long he wants he just doesn’t want get punched and laser a girl in half

Superman doesn’t even need to melt the whole thing, just kill the people inside with heat vision that’s game

And the mk 6 getting stronger from Thor’s lightning that didn’t happen.

But in endgame iron man did absorb Thor’s lightning but he’s suit had to shape shift to absorb it, which took time.

Either way it’s not like the individual nanobots by themselves can absorb lightning anyway

And the MCU is cannon and is part of the marvel multiverse it’s earth 199,999

And a nuke the size of a skyscraper would kill both parties did you forget tony and his gang are all human.

Even hulk can’t absorb massive amounts of gamma radiation we know this from endgame when he’s hand began to rot because the IG emits radiation banner said mainly gamma that destroys the user.

So if they did that only superman, cyborg and Shazam will survive since they can fly, heck doomsday copied the powers of a nuke in BvS and released energy and Batman survived

Make no mistake team MCU kill most people but superman, Shazam and cyborg will live and kill the MCU members

I mean look at it from my perspective, superman and Shazam see that giant robot and this is a bloodlusted battle so they drop the moon on the robot

And don’t say survive cause they don’t and even if they did superman, x-ray vision

Need I say more

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Jeez this MCU wank...

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2:

Long story short

Giant armour wouldn’t even do anything to Shazam, Superman or Cyborg

I’m skeptic that they would even manage to build such a large armour since the latest armour in endgame took iron man 5 years to make for those who haven’t scene endgame

Anyway

Superman would laser each small piece as it comes close

Shazam would fry the circuitry

Cyborg if he’s about to die the motherbox would take over hacking the technology turning it off

I haven’t even gotten started on flash time travelling backwards with the league

Or Lex making a legion of adapting doomsday’s

Bloodlusted Shazam and Supes drop the moon on MCU character who even in a huge suit would have what mountain level durability cause it ain’t moon level thats for sure

Oh wait that reminds me superman sun dips goes back to earth and just destroys the armour

Or Shazam turns the league all into (shazam) Captain marvels

Or wonder woman’s army of slightly below superman level amazons

Heck give Batman time and he’ll manipulate the plot and bet marvel

Ask yourself what’s a worse situation for Batman, injustice storyline no prep time JLA is evil with planet moving superman or no prep time against 1 year prep MCU team

There’s so many ways the DCEU could win

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@indomitableregal: So were are the facts

I never said Pym wasn’t smart at any point I said Wasp wasn’t smart.

So banners responsible for ultron, which is worse ultron or doomsday.

Creating Ultron isn’t even a feat he was a mistake.

All it shows is banners incompetence.

And banner continues to make mistakes like failed time travel and iron man solved time travel in an afternoon.

Shuri’s technology won’t hurt superman

And who cares about being Ironman being a billionaire there’s Batman you forget this.

Everything you have said doesn’t really give credit to intelligence to anyone that I haven’t already mentioned (Ironman is the major threat, pym is second everyone else is irrelevant)

And after all you’ve said u still haven’t told us anything about how they’ll hurt evade superman

And what’s to stop the mother box disabling the nanorobots.

Exactly nothing Ironman doesn’t know what a motherbox is.

Ironman is he only threat most of the DCEU will die that’s a fact.

But only superman or shazam and cyborg have to live to kill the who’ll MCU

...I thought I said I wasn't having this debate because there is none? Most of your points legit make no sense, and that's not even meant as an insult. Did you read the OP? There is no Superman or Shazam here. Try again.

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@indomitableregal:

Apologies man but who’s the guy who makes these one sided threads

And how doesn’t what I say make sense other then the superman/Shazam stuff

But it is still possible to win

Cyborg’s mother box activates hacking the nanotech

Flash uses time travel

Wonder Woman calls her army of amazons

Wonder Woman asks for her father big boy Zeus to kill the guys bullying her daughter

Batman has prep time according to the rules build the Hellbat demolishes the other armour as Hellbat is superman level as seen when Lois lane beat the eradicator in the Hellbat who was beating superman

And before u say Batman wouldn’t build this armour, in endgame it took 5 years for iron man to make his armour and it isn’t big or uses nanotechnology as biological weapon as in destroying cells from the inside out

Aquaman sinks the continent since he has the trident of atlan which was used to sink the continent of Atlantis and has all his fish and atlanteans attack the armour

Lex Luther makes an army of doomsday’s and just one could probably do the job

But think of an army

DCEU can win even without Supes and Shazam I was mentioning the easiest ways though

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This time, Hank Pym goes into the butts.

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#33  Edited By Mr_Shazam0920

MCU clears easily.

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#34  Edited By IndomitableRegal  Online

@mbatz said:

@indomitableregal:

Apologies man but who’s the guy who makes these one sided threads

I don't make them, I just answer my tags lol.

And how doesn’t what I say make sense other then the superman/Shazam stuff

Well for one, you started off saying how Flash was gonna take down every individual member of the team, even though that's not how the thread is set up...

But it is still possible to win

As a wise man once said, "Nothing's impossible, but don't be dumb."

Cyborg’s mother box activates hacking the nanotech

I believe someone already countered this. And you're underestimating the sophistication of whatever they build. I don't see Cyborg hacking something the collective MCU team made.

Flash uses time travel

OP says time travel isn't allowed.

Wonder Woman calls her army of amazons

Wonder Woman asks for her father big boy Zeus to kill the guys bullying her daughter

Neither of these are viable options though. Besides the fact that the Amazons are rather primitive in combat (and Diana was cast out of Themyscira; and since when does Diana just "call Daddy"?), this is completely out of character and nothing in the OP is allowing them to call in a bunch of soldiers to fight with them.

Batman has prep time according to the rules build the Hellbat demolishes the other armour as Hellbat is superman level as seen when Lois lane beat the eradicator in the Hellbat who was beating superman

And before u say Batman wouldn’t build this armour, in endgame it took 5 years for iron man to make his armour and it isn’t big or uses nanotechnology as biological weapon as in destroying cells from the inside out

There's no way in hell Batman builds the Hellbat. He hasn't shown any engineering near that level, nor has anything like that even been introduced as a concept. You can't just try to translate something of that level from the comics, and say he's gonna build it in 3 months or even the year he gets in the bonus (and that was a league effort, not just Bruce). And Tony didn't need 5 years. He was already using nanotech in IW.

Aquaman sinks the continent since he has the trident of atlan which was used to sink the continent of Atlantis and has all his fish and atlanteans attack the armour

You're seriously reaching here. Round 2 already starts 100 meters below sea level, so if they can clear that, not much difference anyway. And again, you're trying to use an option that brings in a bunch of outside help.

Lex Luther makes an army of doomsday’s and just one could probably do the job

But think of an army

How and why would he make an army of Doomsday that can't be controlled? And he needed Zod just to make one. How do you figure he makes an army? This is a prime example of makes no sense. The only round that even has Lex is the bonus, and all the DCEU team is doing there is building their own armor.

DCEU can win even without Supes and Shazam I was mentioning the easiest ways though

They really can't. Most of your "options" aren't even feasible. Seriously, this isn't gonna go well for the DCEU.

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@mbatz: no disrespect bud but I think you are suffering from a lack of imagination today. I spitballed my idea after about 10 seconds of thought...my main point being, the shared resources and intellects here can do almost anything they want (Tony, and Hank could clear this no problem alone) The only real risk for MCU is Rocket's emotional stability. There are a million things these guys can do to overwhelm DC under these conditions. Also, Clark isnt in this fight....though it wouldn't matter if he was tbh.

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@indomitableregal:

I see we’re your coming from in most ideas and you are correct for most of them

And I’m wrong for the most part but DCEU can still win

But like I said above Iron Man doesn’t use his nanotechnology to attack cells by the allowing nanorobots to grow in people

Not even Ant man has done this

So as you would say it’s out of character

So WW calling her dad is out of character that is true but she has done it before in the rebirth WW comics when push came to shove 1v1 with darkseid you get the picture

But let’s not include Zeus as it’s outside help

Iron man on the other hand making nanorobots that attack cells is out of character and has never done this before

You also said that an army of doomsday’s isn’t a feasible idea

All luthor needs is kryptonian DNA in which case, the other kryptonian besides Zod that appeared in the movie that are being kept by the government

Or just supermans DNA or even a blood sample, heck I just remembered doomsday’s body want destroyed

Also Amanda Waller is in the bonus round so Luther will definitely be able to make superman clones and probably bring doomsday back from the dead

Since she works for the government, this is them in character, he made doomsday and bizarro and she abuses governmental power

Then all he has to do is clone them over and over again

This is feasible since there’s a large amount of kryptonian and doomsday (altered kryptonian) DNA

The most likely outcome of the MCU collaboration is an iron man suit (Tony) that Shrinks and grows (Hank) big and has big guns (Rocket) and is made of vibranium (Shuri). For all team members

What will banner do who I have already proven to be incompetent, I mean you didn’t even comment on it above so I must assume I’m right

The nanotechnology won’t invade bodies because its out of character for iron man and Hank Pym he’s a pacifist in comics

And in the movie he seemed like he was against killing since he doesn’t snipe people at a small size which is easier like an invisible hit man which suggest he’s also a pacifist

The whole reason I started saying stuff that is out of character is because you did it so I though I could

Don’t worry I’ll do a seperate post with more examples

The vibranium makes the armour hard to break

Thanos beat iron man and he’s suit didn’t regenerate

Even in endgame he’s armour didn’t regenerate when he fought thanos for the last time

(Soz after reading previous post I realised you haven’t watched endgame, particularly when u said the mk 6 got stronger from Thor’s lightning, but if u watched endgame you would know Tony’s latest armour shapeshifts to absorb the lightning)

Therefore Wonder Woman and here magic sword which cut doomsday will DEFINITELY cut the armour and it won’t regenerate

And kill the team

You also said Wonder Woman calling her amazons was out of character when it’s happened in flashpoint and injustice and in superman/Batman apocalypse what’s to stop this Wonder Woman doing it too

Also no one has stated anything about cyborgs mother box failing.

In comics the motherbox has yet to meet technology it couldn’t at least partially hack

Also what you fail to understand is the motherbox is alive it’s just cyborg is using it as a heart but if it feels threatened it will hack that technology or boom tube cyborg out of danger

But if the collective MCU armour does attack on a cellular level you might win

So this is what your up against

Doomsday and bizarro army courtesy of doomsday’s left over body and kryptonian bodies

Wonder Woman and Amazonian amry in character on several reference material

Flash who you ain’t touching

Cyborg and his motherbox

Batman with prep time, most likely going to bring the justice buster or thrasher suit

And maybe the suicide squad since Amanda Waller is in charge of them and she’s in this battle in the bonus section

In character she would send them to fight

Ultimately you lose if there’s one doomsday who I would put above thanos in raw strength

But keeping MCU team in character they wouldn’t win

But let’s be honest this the battle is called MCU brawn and there’s no superman or Shazam kinda contradictory

Actually nah they single handily destroy MCU team (Shazam just drops the moon while superman sunbathes)

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Mcu geniuses clear easily

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Due to many people claiming that team MCU would win with little difficulty, I have decided to edit the current conditions to make this battle more fair. Please note, the point of this thread was to see whether or not tactical/technical prowess could overcome pure raw strength. Judging by the comments seen, many people are writing off the DCEU team as being unable to compete, without giving any reasons as to why they would lose, and commenting on the victory of the MCU team. The new conditions are as follows:

  • MCU team's prep has been reduced to 1 month
  • DCEU is blood lusted in all rounds
  • Rounds that contain Diana Prince (Wonder Woman) will now have blood lusted Amazonians from Thymscira as supporting troops
  • For round 5, excluding batman, the remaining team gets one month prep

As for those of you that are wondering as to why I did not include DCEU Superman in the team, blood lusted or not, the reason that I did not do so is because I am under the assumption that even a large dose of prep time will not hep overcome those physicals! However, since people are claiming that it is possible, I am adding a secondary bonus round to the thread:

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DCEU Superman . . . .

Please give reasons for your answers, and do back them up with logical conclusions made by analyzing on-screen feats.

The reason I did not just edit the first post is to allow people to distinguish between the pre-edited posts and post-edited posts.

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@mbatz said:

@indomitableregal:

I see we’re your coming from in most ideas and you are correct for most of them

And I’m wrong for the most part but DCEU can still win

But like I said above Iron Man doesn’t use his nanotechnology to attack cells by the allowing nanorobots to grow in people

Not even Ant man has done this

So as you would say it’s out of character

I never claimed either of them did or would. You must have me confused with someone else.

So WW calling her dad is out of character that is true but she has done it before in the rebirth WW comics when push came to shove 1v1 with darkseid you get the picture

But let’s not include Zeus as it’s outside help

It's not going to happen. Period. Stop referencing the comics. This is love action.

Iron man on the other hand making nanorobots that attack cells is out of character and has never done this before

Again. Never said he would. Don't even know why you're arguing this.

You also said that an army of doomsday’s isn’t a feasible idea

All luthor needs is kryptonian DNA in which case, the other kryptonian besides Zod that appeared in the movie that are being kept by the government

Or just supermans DNA or even a blood sample, heck I just remembered doomsday’s body want destroyed

Also Amanda Waller is in the bonus round so Luther will definitely be able to make superman clones and probably bring doomsday back from the dead

Since she works for the government, this is them in character, he made doomsday and bizarro and she abuses governmental power

Then all he has to do is clone them over and over again

This is feasible since there’s a large amount of kryptonian and doomsday (altered kryptonian) DNA

My goodness...Doomsday was made by splicing Luthir's blood with Zod's entire body, not a blood sample. So unless Lex has an army of Kryptonians, he isn't making an army of Doomsday. And you can't just make up that they can clone Kryptonians. And absolutely none of this matters because THEY'RE ONLY MAKING A SUIT OF ARMOR. You should actually read the OP and stop just spitting out random arguments.

The most likely outcome of the MCU collaboration is an iron man suit (Tony) that Shrinks and grows (Hank) big and has big guns (Rocket) and is made of vibranium (Shuri). For all team members

What will banner do who I have already proven to be incompetent, I mean you didn’t even comment on it above so I must assume I’m right

Again, pay attention to the OP. It's 1 suit of armor, designed by all 6, but worn by 1 person. With all that prep time, they'll do much more than that. And I already commented on Banner. That fact that Tony chose him to help with what eventually became Ultron, and the Avengers turned to him for time travel is proof enough of his competency. Him failing to do it properly whereas Tony succeeded is just proof that Tony is smarter.

The nanotechnology won’t invade bodies because its out of character for iron man and Hank Pym he’s a pacifist in comics

Again with the comics...

And in the movie he seemed like he was against killing since he doesn’t snipe people at a small size which is easier like an invisible hit man which suggest he’s also a pacifist

Who said they need to kill to win? And there are 6 choices for a wearer. Whether or not Pym would doesn't so much matter if he's not the one controlling the suit.

The whole reason I started saying stuff that is out of character is because you did it so I though I could

Never did. You must have me confused.

Don’t worry I’ll do a seperate post with more examples

The vibranium makes the armour hard to break

Thanos beat iron man and he’s suit didn’t regenerate

Even in endgame he’s armour didn’t regenerate when he fought thanos for the last time

(Soz after reading previous post I realised you haven’t watched endgame, particularly when u said the mk 6 got stronger from Thor’s lightning, but if u watched endgame you would know Tony’s latest armour shapeshifts to absorb the lightning)

Therefore Wonder Woman and here magic sword which cut doomsday will DEFINITELY cut the armour and it won’t regenerate

And kill the team

You also said Wonder Woman calling her amazons was out of character when it’s happened in flashpoint and injustice and in superman/Batman apocalypse what’s to stop this Wonder Woman doing it too

Also no one has stated anything about cyborgs mother box failing.

In comics the motherbox has yet to meet technology it couldn’t at least partially hack

Also what you fail to understand is the motherbox is alive it’s just cyborg is using it as a heart but if it feels threatened it will hack that technology or boom tube cyborg out of danger

But if the collective MCU armour does attack on a cellular level you might win

So this is what your up against

Doomsday and bizarro army courtesy of doomsday’s left over body and kryptonian bodies

Wonder Woman and Amazonian amry in character on several reference material

Flash who you ain’t touching

Cyborg and his motherbox

Batman with prep time, most likely going to bring the justice buster or thrasher suit

And maybe the suicide squad since Amanda Waller is in charge of them and she’s in this battle in the bonus section

In character she would send them to fight

Ultimately you lose if there’s one doomsday who I would put above thanos in raw strength

But keeping MCU team in character they wouldn’t win

But let’s be honest this the battle is called MCU brawn and there’s no superman or Shazam kinda contradictory

Actually nah they single handily destroy MCU team (Shazam just drops the moon while superman sunbathes)

I'm not even gonna bother to touch the rest. It's clear that you didn't pay attention to the OP, you didn't pay attention to what I typed, you must have my posts confused with someone else, you don't know these movies very well, you're making up scenarios that will never happen, you're trying to use the comics as examples, etc. etc. etc. And I'm guessing you made the same mistakes in the rest of your post.

This argument is dead, and the OP revamped the thread anyway since nobody but you sees DCEU winning this.

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Still clears 1-4, and the 1st bonus round. Loses the second bonus round, undecided on round 5.

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@indomitableregal: Regarding your stance on round 5, is it due to the MCU team's reduced rep or the DCEU team's given prep?

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clears including the bonus round

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@indomitableregal: Regarding your stance on round 5, is it due to the MCU team's reduced rep or the DCEU team's given prep?

Both to an extent, but moreso the latter. Honestly, if you look at some of the best feats on the MCU side (Tony in particular), it doesn't take long for them to pull off something ridiculous. Hell, Tony built the very first suit within 3 months time with limited resources, and once he was "rescued" and back home, he built the Mk 2 in much less time (the closest estimate I could find was under a week, and that's not to mention the fact that he had to build a new arc reactor for his chest). The difference between the MCU side and the DCEU side here is there's less speculation involved. We know what each person brings to the table, so a month with them able to combine their resources/previous tech and then come up with anything new should realistically allow them to produce something really OP. All that said, Batman and Cyborg with 3 and 1 month prep respectively should be able to come up with something good as well (only difference is we haven't really seen much from them, but I'm speculating). Plus they still have the bloodlust and numbers advantage, plus fodder Amazonians to help (I'll take MCU tech over Amazonian weaponry though).

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@indomitableregal: You've raised some pretty good points! Although, in your opinion, what do you think is necessary for the MCU 'brains' team to ensure that the second bonus round is 'close' (Not a stomp either way)? More prep or access to special resources (Kryptonite, uru, magical artifacts, etc)

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@darkdementor101: That's a good question. I'm not so much concerned with Kal's extra abilities (heat vision and the like), but with his physicals. His speed, strength, and durability are gonna be huge obstacles for the MCU team, with speed probably being the biggest factor. An uru weapon (or weapons) would really help against the strength and durability (no enchantment though because none of them are worthy), but not so much the speed...I would say either extra prep or limited prior knowledge.

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@indomitableregal: So what exactly will this armour look like so can make a counter argument

Now that supermans here all it will to destroy said armour is superman with wonder woman’s sword

Obviously this will change depending on ur answer of what the armour will look like

Main reason - Wonder Woman cut doomsday’s hand off

Secondary reason - superman will use a weapon if it can penetrate an enemies defences (e.g the kryptonite spear in BvS which he used to kill doomsday)

Also u said I don’t know the movies that’s not the case, the issue with prep battles is what the characters will do is complete speculation

Hence I used there comic book counterparts to have an idea of what they will do

Something you failed to understand

So let’s hear what the suit will look like

Also u say what I say makes no sense, but it’s out of character for MCU iron man to make a large suit 300 feet and yes I know u didn’t say this but I want specifics in your answer to make the best counter argument.

Lastly whilst I did think the DCEU could win I meant as a possibility.

I knew MCU had a higher chance of winning but I like to challenge myself rather than do it the easier way.

And I plan on continuing to do so.