MCU Black Widow vs DCEU Wonder Woman (READ OP)

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#1  Edited By FromBeyond

Stats Equalised to Black Widow's level. H2H only.Both wearing a simple tracksuit, no armor/gear for either.Fight takes place in a dojo, no environmental advantages.Morals on, win by KO/Incapacitation

Round 2: Both are given wooden batons

Round 3: Stats still equalised, but both have standard gear

Who wins?

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So this is basically just who's more skilled.

Going with Diana due to age and experience. Though I can see a case being made for Natasha.

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Black Widow has better showing in skill.

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Black Widow?

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Widow by feats, Diana by logic and in-universe standing.

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Widow stomps in h2h. Melee (BW w/ batons vs Diana w/ sword & shield) would be more interesting.

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Widow only ever uses that scissors thing. No real skill besides that

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Widow Stomps.

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#9  Edited By Amcu

Natasha curbstomps. Not debatable at all by feats. Diana doesn't even have any H2H skill feats.

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Widow only ever uses that scissors thing. No real skill besides that

Thought you had enough internet for today.

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Blacc widow barely has "skill feats". She relies on fighting dumb movie fodder that have no clue how to fight or shoot to the point that a non- superhuman woman can beat them up.

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@jashugan said:

Blacc widow barely has "skill feats". She relies on fighting dumb movie fodder that have no clue how to fight or shoot to the point that a non- superhuman woman can beat them up.

BW is a "non-superhuman" woman. Lmao.

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Natasha easily.

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@bleidd: what's the point of your post?

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Alright then, as a second round, both are given wooden batons. Who wins now?

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@bleidd: oh I was referring to you. Guy who thinks iron man is gonna kick Diana's a$$

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@jashugan: no skill feats, huh? Trolololol. I wonder who Diana has outskilled who she didn’t hold a massive stat advantage over and without gear.

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Widow lol

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#19  Edited By jashugan

@mr_shazam0920:

no skill feats, huh?

Of course.

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If you think a fight scene like this is remotely skillful, you are out of your mind. Imagine being in a real fight against a woman and she flips around trying to kick you or you let her slide on the floor in between your legs and hit you on your balls, then you are not a man nor a decent fighter at all.

Imagine four guys taking on one woman and they each take turns hitting her instead of dogpilling/jumping her like real people do. These guys superior to her physically still fail to hit her and get easily taken down by her because it's standard movie fighting scenes where things are made to look acrobatic and flashy and not make sense.

Blacc Widow has no skill, she's a thot.

I wonder who Diana has outskilled who she didn’t hold a massive stat advantage over and without gear.

Stupid questions and strawman. It would be like asking real soldiers and warriors who they've beat without using a gun or any weapon that they we're trained to use to fight. You don't use your brain at all.

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@amcu said:

Natasha curbstomps. Not debatable at all by feats. Diana doesn't even have any H2H skill feats.

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@jashugan: nice troll bro. You ain’t getting me. By the way, are you a Crip?

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Diana barely has any h2h skills feats.

Nat stomps.

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@jashugan: you didn’t think I would notice ?

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Natasha murderstomps H2H or with weapons. Lol @ Widow having no skill.

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On Paper Diana would never be written to get stomped by Widow.

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I'll side with Nat unless we take statements about Diana's skill at its face value, in which case, Diana in a good fight.

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@amcu said:

Natasha curbstomps. Not debatable at all by feats. Diana doesn't even have any H2H skill feats.

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Natasha murderstomps H2H or with weapons. Lol @ Widow having no skill.

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Bump for round 3

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Natasha is an expert baton user. She takes R2 with ease.

As for R3, giving Nat her standard gear, which includes electric weapons (batons, widow's bites) and a handgun, is unfair for Diana.

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@jashugan: QHHAHAHAHHAHAHH VERY FUNNY. Yea no ur wrong and u a thot

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#36  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

@jashugan: Oh yea mmmmmmmmmmm. Why am I mad he was just proved wrong. He literally just said the directors statement was beneath him lol.

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#37  Edited By MethoKi

I still don't see what we consider skill, because quite frankly, I don't see any of the fodder that Nat beat beating Diana even without her stats.

The whole skill argument is hard to gauge.

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I'll ask again, when has Diana ever had to use skill in a fight? From what I remember, she has always just used her physical gifts to win/compete in fights.

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Nat stomps with feats

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I'll ask again, when has Diana ever had to use skill in a fight? From what I remember, she has always just used her physical gifts to win/compete in fights.

Not really. She has actually skill feats, such as defeating other Amazons (there she clearly wasn't as powerful as in Man's World, so she had similar stats to regular Amazons, stats they gain through their training and skill), and she actually had feats evading and disarming soldiers and destroying Parademons, besides of her skill representations against Ares, Doomsday and Steppenwolf... saying Diana just jumps in with her physicals is like saying Proxima Midnight only defeated Nat and Okoye because of her stats, when she was clearly shown to be skilled as well...

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Ah, I remember the trashy argument in this thread.

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#42  Edited By anthp2000  Moderator

Exceptional arguments for the people siding with Diana.

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In sword fight or archery or knife throwing Diana wins. In h2h BW stomps

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Exceptional arguments for the people siding with Diana.

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Black Widow is a thot, she has no skill admit it

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#45 anthp2000  Moderator

@_kingoflatveria: Fine. I concede. But didn't she beat that ballsack with a bow once? That has to count for something.

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They end up becoming friends and complain about how much stronger Superman and Thor is compared to them.

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Black Widow both rounds.

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@jashugan said:

@mr_shazam0920:

no skill feats, huh?

Of course.

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If you think a fight scene like this is remotely skillful, you are out of your mind. Imagine being in a real fight against a woman and she flips around trying to kick you or you let her slide on the floor in between your legs and hit you on your balls, then you are not a man nor a decent fighter at all.

In Universe logic, Nat should be leagues above these security guards, no matter if they're skilled or stronger, Nat should be able to stomp them... Nat being a human in her universe is comparable to someone being superhuman in this universe

Imagine four guys taking on one woman and they each take turns hitting her instead of dogpilling/jumping her like real people do. These guys superior to her physically still fail to hit her and get easily taken down by her because it's standard movie fighting scenes where things are made to look acrobatic and flashy and not make sense.

Maybe they'd tried to jump her, but Nat is just fast and strong enough to harm three while the other one tries to punch her... anyways, it's a movie in a Universe where humans can breathe in outter space, it doesn't have to make sense...

Blacc Widow has no skill, she's a thot.

I wonder who Diana has outskilled who she didn’t hold a massive stat advantage over and without gear.

Stupid questions and strawman. It would be like asking real soldiers and warriors who they've beat without using a gun or any weapon that they we're trained to use to fight. You don't use your brain at all.

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Natasha wins because she has displayed more skill and she has an advantage of having the stats down to her level and not the other way around where she'll have to get used to her speed and strength.

Diana would lose badly since she won't have any of the things her stats provided and won't be used to her decreased stats.

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Despite his lackluster delivery, jashugan does have a good point when he said that some of her moves were just your typical flashy movie cliche nonsense that has little practical use.

However, I’d say that a solid 75-80% of that fight wasn’t that way, and based on that, she stomps diana(who has near 0 skill showings).