MCU Black Widow runs the Agents of Shield gauntlet

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Poll: MCU Black Widow runs the Agents of Shield gauntlet (24 votes)

She clears with difficulty 42%
Hunter stops her 4%
Agent 33 stops her 13%
Ward stops her 13%
Bobbi stops her 17%
May stops her 13%
Vin-Tak stops her 0%

Black Widow is armed with different weapons each round. She is morals off. Widow can only use weapons for CQC. Each fight begins 10 feet apart. She is wearing the Infinity War armor. Everyone has their standard combat clothing.

1. Hunter (both are unarmed)

2. Depowered Daisy with no superhuman stats or powers (both have a garrote)

3. Ward (both have Widow’s electric batons)

4. Bobbi (both have a Chitauri blasting staff from A1)

5. May (May has a sword, Widow has Proxima Midnight’s spear)

6. Vin-Tak (Widow has Proxima Midnight’s spear and two electric charges in her gauntlets to be used in close range. He has a truncheon, minus the memory wipe)

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NOTICE: I ORIGINALLY HAD AGENT 33. IF U THINK DAISY BEATS NAT WITH A GARROTE, VOTE FOR AGENT 33

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I'll say could stop at 4, definitely stops at 5.

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I think she could beat Lance, but starting with Daisy, she's going to have major issues beating her opponents.

The TV agents simply have far more, far better showings that any Widow received in the movies.

I think Daisy beats her, she can probably contend with Ward for a while, but Bobbi and May are just too much for her.

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She clears.

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She clears.

Do you like lose more braincells everyday or what?

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@highsky: I don’t want to get into a whole big debate but u sound biased. Can u please watch this when u have a chance and tell me if u think differently or the same?

https://youtu.be/-OmsnIBbjEQ

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@kevd4wg: Vin Tak gives her a problem. She takes anybody else.

https://youtu.be/-OmsnIBbjEQ

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Daisy has the stylistic advantages unarmed. Widow has the weapons advantage vs Ward...it's a fight between Ward's disarms and Widows stuns. She loses to Bobbi.

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Stops hard at Bobbi.

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Honestly, stops at daisy

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Stops at 2-6

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@zr2011: I've watched every MCU property to date, and I'm fully aware of what Natasha has accomplished.

It's just not as impressive as what the top tier TV agents have done.

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#14  Edited By The_Magister

Stops at Daisy. Daisy’s more skilled and physically capable.

Bobbi would beat Natasha senseless, May would do worse to her.

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#15  Edited By ANTHP2000

@kevd4wg: Wdym

Could see an argument for May or Bobbi tbh, but no one's presented anything convincing in any thread. She's obviously miles ahead of the other low tier agents here.

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@kevd4wg: Wdym

Well you would have to have either never watched Agents of Shield or just legitimately stupid to think that Nat beats Vin-Tak and since I know you've watched too much AoS for your own good it appears that it's the second.

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#17  Edited By ANTHP2000

@kevd4wg:

What has Vin Tak done to suggest she doesn't just dodge all his hits and gut him like she did Corvus Glaive...?

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@anthp2000: Natasha only got an upper hand on Corvus because they surprised them. She didn't beat him straight up.

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@anthp2000: Corvus had to deal with Sam and Steve acting as distractions. His focus was on all three of them, not just her.

Without backup, she can't replicate the same against VinTak, who was able to fight evenly with Lady Sif.

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@highsky:

A. When Corvus swung to attack her, there was a ten foot gap. He had stopped focusing on anything else at that point. Your knocking Natasha for the fact that she dodged instead of blocked his swing

B. Vin Tak was slashed straight in the chest (a move that would have killed him if he wasn’t wearing armor) and about to be executed. He resorted to a hax weapon. Sif was not in armor so the dirty trick worked.

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@highsky:

When you turn around 180° and swing at someone, your attention is on them.

An unarmored, shieldless Lady Sif who didn't even feel the need to turn her weapon double edged like in every relevant fight she's had against Frost Giants or Odin's army. A Lady Sif who is not as good a martial artist as Natasha. You can ignore the Corvus Glaive fight and there's still no reason why someone who is a lot more skilled, agile has better reach and is probably faster than Vin Tak wouldn't land the first hit in a fight with him. And that hit means he'll get gutted.

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@anthp2000: Vin Tak was agile enough to avoid Bobbi's hits. He's skilled in his own right.

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#24  Edited By The_Magister

@highsky: @anthp2000: Black Widow fans always try to create skill feats out of nothing.

There’s a clear difference between if they started facing each other ten feet apart, and what happened there - Widow sliding in with a weapon and all the momentum (both physical and strategic) on her side, while Corvus turns and swings instinctively.

Corvus had literally just finished dealing with Sam’s barrage of missiles, too. I don’t know how you can watch that scene and think it’s the same as Widow and Corvus standing ten feet apart to fight each other with no external factors involved.

By this logic - if someone bullrushes me with a tackle from behind and I turn to see them coming and wildly swing, it counts as me being 100% prepared. It’s the exact same as both of us standing 10 feet apart, raising our fists, sizing each other up, and going at it. Right?

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@highsky: if people r going to scale Bobbi to vin tak, u can’t scale vin tak to bobbi. Also, Bobbi hits kind of slowly. Great damage soak and h2h skills, but her baton hits are pretty slow not gonna lie

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@the_magister: He swung, that is what matters. If you saw someone running towards you from over ten feet away and u made an opening attack, I’d say ur ready enough. U can’t be 100% ready for a fight, but Corvus was in battle mode, saw her from over ten feet off, and swung, which is basically being fully prepared for a fight. He took zero damage from what anybody threw at him before widow came up

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Lol aight' AoS fans. Bottom line, Vin Tak hasn't done anything to suggest he won't just get gutted.

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What's funny to me is not that the AoS' characters suck, or that Black Widow sucks, it's that they both suck.

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@the_magister: More importantly she had a weapon capable of functionally one-shotting him. Therefore all she needed was one hit to end it, and she did. (Agreeing with you here btw).

Granted I still think it’s good, and she kicked him down fairly hard afterwards, but it’s not nearly as impressive as just straight up beating him with standard gear would be.

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@nfactor1995: I completely agree with that, she ain't beating Glaive with only her standard gear.

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She beats Hunter, Ward and Vin Tak - Loses to the rest of the gauntlet

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Clears due to gear

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Hard stop at 2 after Season 5 and 6 showings lmao!

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This thread made me laugh so hard.

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Comparing Natasha's encounter with Crocus and using it to justify a win against Vin Tak is ridiculous. It doesn't matter, she'll never get to that round regardless. Daisy/May/Bobbi are all fully capable of beating her.

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Dies at 2. At best she makes it to 3.

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Whatever Black Widow has done in the movies the Agents have better feats, except maybe for committing suicide.