Scenario 1 : H2H
Scenario 2 : Standard Gear
R1 : John Healy
R2 : Pre black sky Elektra
R3 : S1 Matt Murdock
R4 : Pointdexter
R5 : S3 Matt Murdock
R6 Wilson Fisk
R7: Nobu
R8 : Murakami
Final round : Defenders Matt Murdock
Scenario 1 : H2H
Scenario 2 : Standard Gear
R1 : John Healy
R2 : Pre black sky Elektra
R3 : S1 Matt Murdock
R4 : Pointdexter
R5 : S3 Matt Murdock
R6 Wilson Fisk
R7: Nobu
R8 : Murakami
Final round : Defenders Matt Murdock
@anthp2000: how is she soloing everyone at once even with gear?
@mexcomics2078: Most of them can't dodge Widow's bite, some of them just get shot, others blown up, flashbanged etc. Even in CQ she can just tase anyone or stab them or whatever. It's really one sided to pit a geared up Avenger against low tiers like them. And in most locations, she could just stealth everyone besides Matt.
@anthp2000: how is she soloing everyone at once even with gear?
She is not, under any circumstances. That is completely ridiculous.
Stops at final round in h2h. Loses to Poindexter with gear.
@chronicplane: yep. He hold his own with 2 fingers of the hand and one of them was able to stomp Jessica Jones vía skill and hurting Luke Cage and also he fought black sky. While in s3 he was getting his ass kicked by an ordinary FBI agent and Wilson Fisk (again)
R1: Stops at Defenders DD
R2: Pointdexter - you have got to be outright wanking Natasha or outright lowballing Netflix to assume she could take this entire gauntlet at once
Smh so much passive aggressive salt from objectively wrong wankers lately.
You can't really be serious about her soloing all 9(!) characters though. It is not objectively wrong to say that she wouldn't solo 9 characters.
@thesuperor: I was mostly jk lol. But yeah I do think she could.
Round 1- Black Widow Clears with difficultly in the last round
Round 2- Black Widow Stomps every round
What was Pointdexter's gear again? Just trying to remember what might give him the edge in round 2.
He was wearing the same gear as Daredevil's from S2 and Defenders. The suit with insane damage soak and the billy club.
@chronicplane: yep. He hold his own with 2 fingers of the hand and one of them was able to stomp Jessica Jones vía skill and hurting Luke Cage and also he fought black sky. While in s3 he was getting his ass kicked by an ordinary FBI agent and Wilson Fisk (again)
Never got his asskicked by Fisk and what about Bullseye is an ordinary FBI Agent? The guy wrecked a whole group of FBI Agents hand-to-hand took down a mafia kill squad with military grade weapons by himself and oh yeah, he also never misses. It's not even like Bulseye was DDs equal in hand-to-hand combat. During their first fight he virtually doesn't land a blow until he starts throwing shit.
@rbt: Also there's lowballing somewhere in the middle.
Yeah. Claiming Nat can't beat Healey, Elektra, Matt, Dex, Matt, Nobu, Fisk, Murakami and Matt at the same time is lowballing.
Man did Matt really get that OP in Defenders in contrast to his Netflix series?
In DD S1 he was inexperienced.
In DD S2 he was a lot better and improving, Cox even makes a statement about it.
In Defenders Matt has finally reached his prime, which is why he is able to have the upper hand against Iron Fist & Black Sky.
In DD S3 well.... he was recovering from being right in the middle of the wreckage of a building, and was injured for the most part, but even after he recovered still wasn't at the level he was in Defenders.
Stops at Nobu, guy was a beast.
And keeping up with Matt / stomping Elektra is definitely on par if not above Black Widow's skill level.
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