MCU Black Panther vs. MCU Daredevil

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Matt takes Erik's place in the Ritual Fight

*Tchalla is depowered

Round 1: H2H (no armor for Matt)

Round 2: Tchalla has the shield/blade, Matt gets his billy clubs/retractable billy club

*Round 3: Tchalla has his blade/shield, Matt has his armor (no helmet) and billy clubs

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#2  Edited By The_Justiciar

Matt is a better fighter.

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Daredevil I guess. Its hard to argue for T'challa when his only feats while depowered is beating M'baku which is decent I guess considering his skill and strength.

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#4  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

Matt is way more skilled tbh. T'Challa needs better feats.

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Matt is way more skilled tbh. T'Challa needs better feats.

This. Matt all rounds.

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@jashro44 said:

Daredevil I guess. Its hard to argue for T'challa when his only feats while depowered is beating M'baku which is decent I guess considering his skill and strength.

Yep this. It somehow feels like his skills went down after being depowered or was it just due to bad choreography?

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@nehyolaw: Honestly was not that impressed with Bp's skills in the movie.

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Matt sweeps all rounds against a depowered T’Challa.

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Matt Murdock is crowned the new King of Wakanda.

"Wakanda Forevah'!!"

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#12  Edited By TheReccher

The king stomps.

Edit: I didn't notice the "depowered," condition. My bad.

Super-human awareness, borderline super-human pain tolerance and fighting skills that rival the Black Widow would be too much for the king to handle. The devil stomps.

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Matt stomps. Depowered Panther doesn't have anything going for him other than scaling from Cap skill wise, but Cap still looked more skilled than him. I don't think either of them are a match for Matt skill wise to begin with.

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did you even watch the movie cuz i think t'challa stomps matt easily

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#15 rogueshadow  Moderator

did you even watch the movie cuz i think t'challa stomps matt easily

Why? Keep in mind this is T'Challa without the HSH.

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T'Challa all rounds.

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Matt is struggling against physical superiors. He is more skilled than Frank too, but got his a** beaten up twice. So it's not that clear Matt wins. So I would give T'Challa a shot in R1 and R2.

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Matt is a lot more skilled at this point. Like, a LOT more skilled.

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T'Challa did not impress me at all skill-wise. He was less impressive than in civil war. Without his suit and depowered he is ok at best imo. I expected a lot more.

Matt would beat him handily.

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T'Challa doesn't look impressive because the fight scenes suck but he beat M'baku who's strong enough to lift and throw a man with 1 arm. It's gonna be a tought fight.

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Matt. He is far more skilled imo.

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t'challa imo its close though

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I honestly feel like T’Challa might win round 2 thanks to his weapons and shield.

He loses round 1 though because we don’t see how skilled he really is just hand-to-hand while depowered outside of the end of his fight with M’Baku and loses round three thanks to Matt’s suit mainly.

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Depowered T'challa is screwed in all 3 rounds. The movie gave off the impression he wasn't used to fighting without the herb.

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Depowered T'challa is screwed in all 3 rounds. The movie gave off the impression he wasn't used to fighting without the herb.

Sadly, this appears to be true.

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Depowered T'challa is screwed in all 3 rounds. The movie gave off the impression he wasn't used to fighting without the herb.

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Matt takes this. He seems more skilled as a natural fighter and his superhuman senses give him the edge.

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#28  Edited By tariq2016

@rogueshadow: but he still beats matt and i dont get how t'challa wasnt good he beat m'baku who could also beat matt

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#29  Edited By rogueshadow  Moderator

@rogueshadow: but he still beats matt and i dont get how t'challa wasnt good he beat m'baku who could also beat matt

No he wouldn't.

M'Baku didn't do anything to justify him beating Matt.

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I'll back Matt in a decent fight.

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Definitely feel like people are underestimating BP. Him losing to Erik isn't a bad showing. Erik is an elite super assassin apart of a ghost squad capable of taking down governments similar to the winter soldiers. I wish we got to see more of what he was capable but I don't see Matt stomping Tchalla. Keep in mind BP was also in his weakest state after having his powers removed. With time to adjust,he probably would do better.

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@rogueshadow: M'baku's weapon was sending people flying. If he lands some good hits, Matt could be in trouble.

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Matt stomps all rounds. I was genuinely disappointed with T'Challa's depowered feats :/ shame, he and Danny are supposed to be the best, but either would get clowned by Matt currently.

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I feel like T'Challa's best skill feat is still fighting Bucky who is far less skilled than Matt. Honestly I think Elektra is more skilled than T'Challa. I just can't see T'Challa winning with his current feats.

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#35 rogueshadow  Moderator

@rogueshadow: M'baku's weapon was sending people flying. If he lands some good hits, Matt could be in trouble.

M'Baku is extremely strong but he has to lands the hits. Elektra was struggling to land hits on him while he was unarmed and she was obscenely skilled, outstatted him and wielded dual swords. Similar situation with Bakuto. And Matt has shrugged off blows that have sent him flying in the past.

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@rogueshadow: m'baku is man ape which is alot stronger than daredevil

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Matt wins

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#38 rogueshadow  Moderator

@tariq2016: Strength isn't enough to win this. Matt has fought and beaten stronger people before. He has to tag Matt and he has to tag him a bunch of times to put him down. Matt is on a different playing field in skill, speed and agility and can tank many of his blows.

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Wakanda gets a new Caucasian king

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#41 rogueshadow  Moderator

@rogueshadow: one hit could defeat matt

When he's shrugged off hits like this:

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Even in theory I doubt it. And again, M'Baku hasn't done anything to justify landing shots on Matt when even Elektra and many other fighters far more skilled than M'Baku have struggled to do so.

M'Baku's baseline is that he could rival but lose to T'Challa, who is inferior to Matt in skill.

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#42  Edited By AbstractRaze

Black Panther takes it with mid difficulties, he's physicaly way stronger.

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#43 rogueshadow  Moderator

Black Panther takes it with mid difficulties, he's physicaly way stronger.

Read the OP.

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Daredevil.

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Matt all rounds.

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#47  Edited By LDM

@tariq2016: no he doesn’t. His best striking feat is using a stick to send a person flying 10 feet away. Elektra can send men flying further with 1/10 the effort he does and with her bare hands at that. Her striking power is easily >>>>>>>> his

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T'Challa wasn't all that impressive without his powers. Although his opponents were likely some of the most skilled hand-to-hand fighters in the entire MCU, he still had essentially a net loss. Daredevil is a real contender for the most skilled hand-to-hand fighter in MCU (with the possibly exception of Gamora and other aliens/Asgardians, Stick and maybe Danny or Electra). Matt takes all rounds with mid-high difficulty.

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#49  Edited By tariq2016

she sends men flying less than 10 feet away

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