MCU Black Panther & MCU Spider-Man vs Kylo Ren

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#1  Edited By PayneInTheAss
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- Win by death or KO

- They start 100 mts apart

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T'Challa sneaks attack.

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INB4 "They are too fast for Kylo"

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disappointing kylo is still disappointing.........

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the kylo ren wank is real, team curbstomp each solo.

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Either of the team can solo

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Kylo Ren. Neither of them can counter his TK. He can at least hold his own against either where martial skill is concerned.

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@alphaq: You think through skill alone he can hold his own against Panther?

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Spiderman is almost a nonfactor- he could distract Kylo for BP, I don't think his webs will do anything he could cut through them. And we know he can react to lasers shot at him...

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Funny thing is people wank Wanda so much , they are even saying she can beat Superman because of TK abilities.

But when it is character outside from MCU with TK vs any MCU character with a little Superpower , MCU wins again.

When does this MCU wank stop ?

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@arqe: stop whining. Nobody says wanda can beat supes because of tk. She can beat him because of TP. Not TK. Big difference. Wanda TPd an entire town. Kylo has 0 TP feats. And his tk is not that good either.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: Sorry , misspell. And it is not whining when you are pointing the right thing. Also that is what im saying , people love to wank mcu characters without feats , but they crush dceu ones. like one thread says Superman has no defense feats against TP. But does Wanda have reaction feats against characters that is fast enough kryptonians in dceu ? No she doesn't but you still say she can beat him because of TP. Feats ? Nope.

It goes both ways for each character.

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@samjackson: I don't think he is as skilled atm, but with his lightsaber he can at least hold his own when it comes to a close encounter.

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@arqe: Superman wont Blitz unless he has too.

Chances are SW can TP before he blitz.

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Kylo with high diff

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Team. Kylo couldn't even defeat two kids

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Spiderman webs the lightSaber out of kylo's hands and one hit kos him

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@love: But Wanda literally never uses TP offensively in combat outside of that one time she gave the Avengers visions, but that doesn't help at all against Clark. Her using TP is even less probable than Clark blitzing (that's to say neither is going to happen).

On topic, Kylo should take this. People lowball him so much due to that last fight, but a peak condition and emotionally stable Kylo had great feats. Spider-Man can't get close without being TK's and chopped to pieces, and webs will just be used against him. Panther was quick but Kylo reacted to blaster bolts much faster than him. He'll get TK-locked and decapitated same as Parker. They really need a ranged attack faster than blaster bolts to take this, and they just don't have one.

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@nwgzsjuwhm96y2: Wanda never tp and entire town she to some of the people, She tp'd the ones the avenges didn't have time to get to

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Kylo got tagged by Finn welding a Saber who has no training or Force.

Team wins.

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Both T'Challa and Peter could wreck Kylo in close combat, as long as they avoid his lightsaber or disarm him, and given how fast, agile and skilful they both are, plus spider-sense and webbing, that's quite likely. However, one un-dodged swing from that saber and it's all over immediately (making the assumption that MCU Vibranium isn't saber-proof). Also, obviously, neither of them can counter Kylo's telekinesis, but it's not impossible to avoid getting Force-grabbed/choked/etc, mostly because Kylo doesn't actually use the Force that often, as well as the Force requiring a certain amount of focus to use, which could be difficult, due to the MCU duo's aforementioned dodgeability. The same one-hit-kill thing does apply to the Force as well, but Kylo is outmatched in many other ways.

Not to mention the fact that while Kylo seems to have some potentially impressive off-screen feats, he gets beaten by about as inexperienced a Jedi as you can get and was matched for a while by a complete novice who isn't even Force sensitive (as far as we know). He was injured, but frankly that injury wouldn't have been the kind of hindrance it was made out to be, and Kylo himself doesn't have the best Sith CV i've ever seen.

I reckon the MCU duo can take this, but they'd have to hit a few specific marks. Disarm Kylo, get close and combine stealthy distraction with physical overwhelming to bring him down. If they don't let him keep his weapon, as it's too dangerous to risk trying to avoid the whole time, and don't give him time to effectively use the Force then they can win.

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kylo force snaps their necks

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Man i dont understand the kylo hate on this website. Leave your personal feelings out when you make an assessment.

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Team. Kylo was good, not this good though.

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I actually think Kylo would win, albeit in a great fight. Lightsaber combat is far more advanced than earth-based combat, and Kylo has the edges of weaponry, reaction time, telekinesis, and the Force in general guiding him to victory.

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I actually think Kylo would win, albeit in a great fight. Lightsaber combat is far more advanced than earth-based combat, and Kylo has the edges of weaponry, reaction time, telekinesis, and the Force in general guiding him to victory.

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@i_like_swords: And if he can deflect a lightsaber then I think the team would have a hard time penetrating his defenses.

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Kylo. Neither BP or Spider-Man showed the speed to contend with a guy that can catch lasers. Not to mention Kylo has taken worse than their punches, and he can one-shot both.

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Team, Black Panther alone will give him trouble.

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Spidey webs lightsaber from Kylo and distracts while Black Panther sneaks up and cuts him into pieces.

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Kylo wins here. He'll lightsaber through Black Panther and use TK to tag inexperienced Spidey.

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Team. Kylo's combat speed is too slow to contend with T'Challa. Pus, teamwork can be used to outmatch Kylo.

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@king_nomarch said:

Spidey webs lightsaber from Kylo

Precog.

@king_nomarch said:

while Black Panther sneaks up

Precog/Force senses.

It's not enough to stop the team. Kylo has been tagged by slower and less skilled guys. He probably won't see Panther coming when Spiderman distracts him.

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Either of the MCU teammates solo. After seeing the movie, I believe Panther's suit can withstand the lightsaber or prevent Kylo from seriously injuring him. Spiderman would win due to his superior stats and spider sense

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Team stomps.

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Half the people think Kylo wins but I think team wins easily. Rey might've had some precognition in her final fight with Kylo but there's no way Kylo has precognition too when he lost. Kylo has almost nothing to contend with this.

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what is the outcome of this after Homecoming, The Last Jedi and Black Panther?

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Still Kylo.

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Kylo.

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kylo literally force stops laser bolts. he can kill them with tk and light saber. prolly has to choke panther bc idk about lightsaber vs vibranium

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Kylo got worked by Finn who has no force powers or skill. Than he got wrecked by a young lady who just discovered her powers

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@sunman: Movie’s been out for three years yet you still ignore any and all circumstance or context.

Embarrassing.

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#50  Edited By nerdchore

@love: just stop. If you are going to post out of context lowballing then whats the point in argueing.