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Posted by xZone (10339 posts) 1 month, 4 days ago

Poll: MCU Asgardians vs WoDC Kryptonians (37 votes)

Asgardians 43%
Kryptonians 57%
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Rules:

-Bloodlusted

-Win by Death or KO

-Start 100 feet apart

Location:

-Asgard

Gear:

-Loki: Casket of Ancient Winters, Gungnir, and the Destroyer Armor (Assume all their abilities stack)

-Thor has Mjolnir and Stormbreaker

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#2 Posted by xZone (10339 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#3 Edited by AllHellKingDox (181 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos.

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#4 Edited by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

Look, I think Thor is underrated by many of the DCEU wankers, yes - he does decisively beat Wonder Woman, pre-Infinity War even... But he is the only one in which this could possibly be debated to mean anything at all for any debate in this thread.

But you want him to carry everyone here vs Superman AND Doomsday?

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Kryptonians spitestomp, lol.

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#5 Edited by rem (2509 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos.

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#6 Posted by Supermanthor (15929 posts) - - Show Bio

@rem said:

Superman solos.

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#7 Edited by MarvelandDCfan24 (7140 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos

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#8 Posted by ourmanuel (10433 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman isn’t soloing anything.

Loki tricks them with illusions and Thor one-shots with stormbreaker.

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#11 Posted by deactivated-5c6891767abb2 (1820 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman isn’t soloing anything.

Loki tricks them with illusions and Thor one-shots with stormbreaker.

Can illusions trick x-ray vision ?

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#12 Posted by Iron_Tiger (200 posts) - - Show Bio

@arthurcurry89: Is Clark going to know to use x-ray vision at all? He hasn't used it outside of his first movie when it activated as a kid, or when he scanned the Justice League a moment after his revival.

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#13 Edited by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2733 posts) - - Show Bio

@theonewhopullsthestrings said:

Look, I think Thor is underrated by many of the DCEU wankers, yes - he does decisively beat WoWo pre-Infinity War even.

@mister_surreal said:

@theonewhopullsthestrings: How does Pre IW Thor decisively beat Superman? That in of itself is wanking.

Read the bolded print. Unless you think superman == WoWo, aka - Wonder Woman, then I suggest you be more careful to actually understand what it is that I said. In case people don't understand the slang term for wonder woman that has developed in some circles of things like Injustice, I will edit my post anyway for full name; even though it should still have been obvious.

And yes, Thor does decisively beat wonder woman, even before any IW buffs, no matter how much the fanbois want it not to be so.

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#14 Posted by Matthew660 (1576 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians clap 6 cheeks.

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#15 Posted by DavidHarewood14 (618 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians. Pre IW isn't powerful enough

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#16 Posted by DammeFavour (8287 posts) - - Show Bio

Either superman or doomsday solo

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@ourmanuel said:

Superman isn’t soloing anything.

Loki tricks them with illusions and Thor one-shots with stormbreaker.

Can illusions trick x-ray vision ?

The illusions would work long enough for Thor to one-shot all of them with SB.

And yes, Thor does decisively beat wonder woman, even before any IW buffs, no matter how much the fanbois want it not to be so.

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#20 Edited by Ready_4_Madness (15349 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman solos

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#21 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15349 posts) - - Show Bio

@iron_tiger: he literally used it before he fought Batman, that’s how he knew Bruce was Batman.

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#22 Posted by TonyStark6999 (2235 posts) - - Show Bio
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#23 Posted by Helloman (28525 posts) - - Show Bio

The Asgardians win.

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#24 Posted by Rajjar (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Thor will beat Superman 7-8/10 with both weapons available to him.

Hela and Loki will be able to hold their own against DD, especially with all that gear and hax available. Then, when Clark is down, Mjolnir will blitz DD into the sun.

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#25 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

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#26 Posted by CyberpunkCop (2779 posts) - - Show Bio

Why do you have to put Superman in these matches he solos

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#27 Posted by blackpantherisb (6944 posts) - - Show Bio

An argument could be made for either Kryptonian soloing. DC team stomps.

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#28 Posted by IPvMan (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman or Doomsday solos. DCEU team blitzes.

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#29 Posted by Mr_Shazam0920 (4099 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians

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#30 Posted by macleen (3263 posts) - - Show Bio
@ipvman said:

Superman or Doomsday solos. DCEU team blitzes.

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#31 Posted by Galactic_1000 (5557 posts) - - Show Bio

Still DC

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@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

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#33 Posted by nfactor1995 (12827 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians win. I would say stomp, but I can see the Asgardians lasting at least a little while.

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#34 Posted by HulkBusterx9 (890 posts) - - Show Bio

The Asgardians are a class 3 civilization. The kryptonians are a class 1.

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#35 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

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@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

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#37 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (10449 posts) - - Show Bio

An argument could be made for either Kryptonian soloing. DC team stomps.

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#38 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

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#39 Posted by Rajjar (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

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#40 Posted by KanyeCosby (6936 posts) - - Show Bio

Superman can probably solo. Doomsday can possibly too, depending on if Stormbreaker can cut him.

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#41 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

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@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

I think Loki is useful as a distraction. DD probably doesn't know how to use X-ray vision, so Loki can use his magic and gear to mess around with him for a little bit.

Your estimate on the neutron star is actually really good, because when Odin/Thor says dying star, they aren't talking about a dying neutron star, but an actual star. That's because neutron stars are technically dead stars, because they are the collapsed cores of those stars.

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#43 Posted by DrPepperMan (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

Kryptonians.

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#44 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

I think Loki is useful as a distraction. DD probably doesn't know how to use X-ray vision, so Loki can use his magic and gear to mess around with him for a little bit.

Your estimate on the neutron star is actually really good, because when Odin/Thor says dying star, they aren't talking about a dying neutron star, but an actual star. That's because neutron stars are technically dead stars, because they are the collapsed cores of those stars.

If Loki would play smart yes he can distract them to give Hela a chance to hit them. U have got a point

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#45 Posted by Rajjar (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
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@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

I think Loki is useful as a distraction. DD probably doesn't know how to use X-ray vision, so Loki can use his magic and gear to mess around with him for a little bit.

Your estimate on the neutron star is actually really good, because when Odin/Thor says dying star, they aren't talking about a dying neutron star, but an actual star. That's because neutron stars are technically dead stars, because they are the collapsed cores of those stars.

If Loki would play smart yes he can distract them to give Hela a chance to hit them. U have got a point

Imagine DD playing Whack-a-Mole with the fake Lokis.

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#46 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (970 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
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@rajjar said:
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@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

I think Loki is useful as a distraction. DD probably doesn't know how to use X-ray vision, so Loki can use his magic and gear to mess around with him for a little bit.

Your estimate on the neutron star is actually really good, because when Odin/Thor says dying star, they aren't talking about a dying neutron star, but an actual star. That's because neutron stars are technically dead stars, because they are the collapsed cores of those stars.

If Loki would play smart yes he can distract them to give Hela a chance to hit them. U have got a point

Imagine DD playing Whack-a-Mole with the fake Lokis.

It would be fun 😂. But honestly i think then Doomsday will begin evolution process ( after being constantly stabbed by Hela and hitted by Thor ) will release his energy cloak to faint at least Loki. But yeah it would be fun

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#47 Posted by Six-Deuce (1078 posts) - - Show Bio

Asgardians rather easily. Hela's blades will affect DD as he is not more durable than uru (poor showing against Diana's sword). With the ability to dismember this makes it rather simple in fact...she does to him what she did to thor minus the god-mode healing factor. While I believe Clark should beat this Thor with moderate effort, Gungir should be able to pierce him as well as Hela's blades which she can literally make come right up out of the ground behind him. Clark isn't good enough to take 3v1 for sure and DD isnt smart enough to dodge. 10/10 asgardians.

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#48 Posted by Rajjar (1767 posts) - - Show Bio

@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:
@rajjar said:
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@rajjar said:
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@rajjar said:
@sexybayonetta22 said:

@rajjar: blitz to sun ?! You know i was considering u too smart not biased guy but your lvl of wank just destroyed me. Sorry but those are facts. Dceu kryptonians has 0 feats of weakness against magic powers.same as CW Supergirl lowballers. Livewire ( who cares she can absorb electricity of entire national city ) takes her down so she is weak. Lool

I meant Mjolnir blitzing him to the sun, not Thor. DD can't really stop a BFR, BvS Superman BFRed him and would have succeeded if the nuke hadn't been launched. Unless you are saying Doomsday is worthy enough to lift Mjolnir, then I don't know what you are arguing. Thor can't blitz him without getting wrecked, so why not let one of his flying weapons do it instead? I mean, did you look at the first gif I posted?

Notice that Mjolnir is that fast ( Mach 36 as some calculated ) when is summoned from cosmic distances. If Thor's hammer constantly is being tagged by normal humans or robots or aliens so Mjolnir cannot be that fast when is thrown. Or just prove me Thor is just like CW Flash: jobs a lot

Thor doesn't throw Mjolnir fast. Mjolnir when flying on it's own is fast.

And yes, Thor does job alot for comedy effect. That's why DianaAllMighty or his alt Arthurcurry89 once said that Thor is FOX Beast level.

Ok so why he got captured by Sakaarian hunters by electric neat when Thor knew as from their words they want to eat him or kill him etc. ? Ok this Arthur or Diana guy doesn't get that those are comedy reasons. U know Comicvine rules are mostly we take best moments but as far as i remember Mjolnir can be mach 36 when is summoned from big distances.

Ok i get it when we are talking about CW Jobber Allen and his fans. ( To me even Wally West and Oliver Queen ( elseworlds ) are hundreds of times more competent speedsters. I don't complain about cw Kara or J'onn, because those alien villains are that strong by some feats ( but Martian could use his true powers more often ), but yeah "MTFL" speedster who allows himself to be tagged by Leonard Snart, Brie Larvae's cyberbees, Grodd, Arrow or other wall/street lvl character is really stupid + it destroyed me he cannot even surpass Cheetah mode Mari McCabe Vixen ( ok she is fast in animated movie but no way she is above Flash ) I love CW Barry Allen, but he has shown many times he is not created to fights, but rather to special tasks like to rescuing people or to track somebody or to steal sth etc. Just look at Wally West, does he ever jobbs ? Never ! or Oliver with Flash powers etc.

Coming back to topic in brute strenght Thor could be on pair with Aquaman ( in water ) or Superman. His ring feat is insane. Single ring seemingly looks like 1-10 milion ton ( adding earthly gravity to this ) and if this happens in cosmos then we are multiplying by 0.001 then Thor is 10^3 or 10^4 ton lifter so equal or possibly stronger than Supes and Arthur ( in water ) [ or supes is stronger if we use this outlier of tectonic plate or superior to Steppenwolf who already surpassed Arthur in water ]. So Thor will be main factor to beat. Hela lacks h2h feats but by logic should be superior on pair with pre awakened Thor.

I believe Kryptonian wins because loki is non factor, DD will adapt to Hela's blades + DD can knock them out with his superior energy cloak but just barely 5.5/10

Holy shit that's a lot of analysis. I think your prediction is fair. I had Asgardians winning at 7/10, but I'm gonna spend some time reviewing what you said and formulating a response.

I think it is close but u might be right. Yeah Thor got insanely amped in Infinity War mainly because of taking Star heat ( if this is neutron one so probably 10^9 or 10^10 Kelvins ). Loki goes down quickly. Hela is very dangerous foe

I think Loki is useful as a distraction. DD probably doesn't know how to use X-ray vision, so Loki can use his magic and gear to mess around with him for a little bit.

Your estimate on the neutron star is actually really good, because when Odin/Thor says dying star, they aren't talking about a dying neutron star, but an actual star. That's because neutron stars are technically dead stars, because they are the collapsed cores of those stars.

If Loki would play smart yes he can distract them to give Hela a chance to hit them. U have got a point

Imagine DD playing Whack-a-Mole with the fake Lokis.

It would be fun 😂. But honestly i think then Doomsday will begin evolution process ( after being constantly stabbed by Hela and hitted by Thor ) will release his energy cloak to faint at least Loki. But yeah it would be fun

DD ragequits and releases the energy cloak after losing the Asgardian whack-a-Loki game.

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