MCU: An Asgardian Soldier Vs U.S Agent & Josef

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MCU BATTLE:

An Asgardian Soldier

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John Walker & Josef (Siberian Winter Soldier)

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Unarmed

Bloodlusted & morals off

Battle location: A boxing ring.

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Asgardians with aos feats have crazy strength feats like tossing cars, killing humans and sending them flying 50 feet with a push, no selling knives, etc. Josef and John should have the skill/speed advantage tho. It could go either way. Without aos feats super soldiers win fs.

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@ajak_xiv said:

Asgardians with aos feats have crazy strength feats like tossing cars, killing humans and sending them flying 50 feet with a push, no selling knives, etc. Josef and John should have the skill/speed advantage tho. It could go either way. Without aos feats super soldiers win fs.

The problem with that is that many of those feats come from Sif. Sif is clearly meant to be exceptional. Her feats are no more applicable to generic fodder Asgardians then what Black Widow can do is proof that any generic SHIELD agent can do those same things. Or, say, Darth Maul doing something proves that all Zabraks can do it. Not all Kryptonians can do what Superman can do exactly as well, etc. etc.

With all that in mind, Walker solos. Asgardian soldiers are fodder.

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Either solo

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@shroudofsorrow: not only Sif,but Lorelei too. And also humans after berseker staff were able to toss a car. Professor from AoS was invincible to knife and possibly bullets.

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#9  Edited By shroudofsorrow

@immwarriorortal: @enzvi: Not without scaling that doesn't work.

@krishnyak: Lorelei doing it still isn't enough. Not every human can do what Black Widow can do or what Hawkeye can do. That Yelena and Kate can also do it doesn't mean its applicable to any generic human. Not every Kryptonian can do what Superman can just because Supergirl and Zod also have good feats. I still don't think the scaling works.

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@shroudofsorrow: i agree that scaling isn't really correct to asgardians. But we have that what we have. Professor from AoS is bulletproof (should be), but he almost has no feats .

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Melinda Mei and Grant Ward with berserker staff effect would be a better fight)

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@krishnyak: I feel like its a case where its vague. IF we assume that every Asgardian really is as strong as Sif and other exceptional specimens, then sure, the Asgardian is above this duo physically (though I'd argue the duo still has a chance by way of it being 2 on 1). But that I think its a valid possibility that the generic Asgardian could be anywhere from half Sif's physicals to three quarters to some other fraction. Basically, I think you can say there isn't enough concrete evidence to make a definitive call. At least not in my opinion.

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@shroudofsorrow: So i think that we need to compare specific Asgardian(Warriors three,Walkyrie,Loki,Lorelei) Thor,Hela Odin are much above them all, and regular warriors could be below them. Humans with berserker stuff also has unknown lvl of power(but higher than Disney +/movie MCU supersoldiers).

So using a regular asgardian in battles is waste of time)

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#14  Edited By crclopezos

Basing in what if?, scaling, duo stomps several Asgardians.

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Duo stomps hard for what if scaling.

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@idragonov: what if is another universe. Why we should scaling MCU 616 from what if?

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@Krishnyak: we have a awesome post from calclord showcasing why some variants scale to each other. Unless there is an event or past that changes drastically from the original timeline for that character that character should scale to the original. In the very last episode of what if...? Fury unfreezes cap and he is seen fighting Asgardian soldiers.

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/gen-discussion-1/mcu-variants-do-scale-2275886/

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Asgardians are supersoldiers compared to the likes of Walker and Josef...

Unarmed makes the fight even easier for the Asgardian as the supersoldiere can't hurt an Asgardian with their bare knuckles and kicks

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#20  Edited By Paytience

@krishnyak: No it wouldn't. May could feasibly beat either one without an amp and Ward isn't far behind...in fact he is quicker and stronger. Berserker May would clean house on the duo.

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