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#1 Edited by Space_Coyote (3195 posts) - - Show Bio

Battle takes place in a Roman Colosseum.

Standard weapons of choice. Clegane has his armor. Maximus has his Roman Legion armor.

Random encounter. Battle to the death.

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#2 Posted by Killerwasp (17063 posts) - - Show Bio

maximus the guy was a boss, wounded before the final fight, in shitty gear, still had the kills to kick the emperor's ass and fought germans on an everyday life or barbarians in general, and ofc beat one of the most experienced gladiators in their history with less than a sword. i give it to him due to cunning, intelligence, and skill that he has. However this just my opinion.

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#3 Posted by Drew_Tan (757 posts) - - Show Bio

maximus the guy was a boss, wounded before the final fight, in shitty gear, still had the kills to kick the emperor's ass and fought germans on an everyday life or barbarians in general, and ofc beat one of the most experienced gladiators in their history with less than a sword. i give it to him due to cunning, intelligence, and skill that he has. However this just my opinion.

This.

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#4 Posted by Penderor (5561 posts) - - Show Bio

Gregor Clegane wins.

To beat him you need superior speed or agility. And Maximus lacks both.

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#5 Posted by those_eyes (17291 posts) - - Show Bio

@penderor said:

Gregor Clegane wins.

To beat him you need superior speed or agility. And Maximus lacks both.

I don't think it will go down like that. It will be like when he fought that one champion gladiator who was really big and strong. Maximus is a smarter fighter.

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#7 Posted by Cregan_Stark (5046 posts) - - Show Bio

The Mountain has vastly superior armor and weaponry. He wins.

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#8 Posted by OrdinaryAlan (6706 posts) - - Show Bio

Tough call. I definitely want Maximus to win. I'm just not sure he can take the Mountain. That one champion gladiator he killed toward the end wasn't in the same league as Gregor. He was old and not as big and not as strong.

Maximus' best individual feat, IMO, is when he took on like 5 gladiators (not as skilled as the gladiators in Rome, but still) at the same time when he was in African Rome, albeit individually.

Maximus can indeed still fight well even while injured, but so can Gregor, as we saw in the episode where even after having his hamstrings sliced and in the process of dying, he still managed to crush a man's skull with his bare hands before dying.

As others have said though, Maximus doesn't necessarily have the speed and dexterity to bring down the Mountain. The skill, yes.

Overall, I'd say Gregor 6/10.

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#9 Posted by Space_Coyote (3195 posts) - - Show Bio

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#10 Posted by rogueshadow (28617 posts) - - Show Bio

The Mountain has vastly superior armor and weaponry. He wins.

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#12 Posted by UFT (4533 posts) - - Show Bio

gregor is like nothing human. no one was supposed to be able to wear his armor but he does. he uses a two handed greatsword with one hand.

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#13 Edited by rickythanos (1570 posts) - - Show Bio

Westerosi Steel > Roman Iron

Mountain takes this, solely because he has better armor and weaponry. If they had the same class of weapons, the story would be different.

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#14 Edited by cpt_nice (9777 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickythanos said:

Westerosi Steel > Roman Iron

Mountain takes this, solely becuase he has better armor and weaponry.

This. Even top notch steel blades are often unable to penetrate plate, Roman swords will be useless.

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#15 Posted by azrael1973 (2433 posts) - - Show Bio

maximus the guy was a boss, wounded before the final fight, in shitty gear, still had the kills to kick the emperor's ass and fought germans on an everyday life or barbarians in general, and ofc beat one of the most experienced gladiators in their history with less than a sword. i give it to him due to cunning, intelligence, and skill that he has. However this just my opinion.

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#16 Edited by supasteed112 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

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MAXIMUS VS THE MOUNTAIN

The only real danger is Maximus's outdated armor to the more modern armour the mountain is wearing BUT that depends which armor the mountain is wearing. The one he used against Oberyn was penetrated by spears so it's not that impenetrable like the other gold helmet armor he wore.

Maximus would lose if he wears the armor he didn't use against Oberyn. Maximus wins through evasion and speed and sword thrusts into the armor he used with Oberyn.

Maximus was stated to be Hector reborn.

Which puts him on Hectors level from Troy - Stated by Commodus. Maximus is 36 years old, even though he looked older than Hector who was ALSO 36 years old in Troy. This means he can be as fit as Hector. Hector is also a general like Maximus of his army and is also Troys greatest fighter just as Maximus is Rome's greatest fighter so they are both on level.

Proximo was an exceptionally great gladiator and YET even though he was the one to survive the Arena, he stated this

" I was not the best because I KILLED QUICKLY - He was referring to Maximus and his previous speed kill of the Six gladiators"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnZYCQ2SC4Y

This easily means Despite the primitive Braveheart 1995-2000 Gladiator slower camera fight speeds taken it means Maximus is depicted to be a very fast killer utilizing speed.

Maximus's best feat was killing three gladiators in seven seconds.

Maximus also has very good stamina, he was able to last a very long while against commodus before dying, he also didnt tire by the end against the only undefeated champion in Roman history who would be on a high level and up with Ajax in Troy.

So Maximus has both stamina and alot of speed.

If anything, Maximus lacks POWER and DURABILITY. His blows may be strong but he required two swords to sever a head/limb while other fighters like Leonidas and The mountain required one sword.

Maximus also has more experience, just like when he knew how to take out the chariots and where to tell his men to stand or fight. The mountain just has a crap load more power and probably more durability from his armor.

I see the Mountain Gregor Clegane having a hard time against maximus unless he is wearing that heavy armor that should allow him to beat maximus. However another armor he used against Oberyn was penetrated by spears, so thats not thesame heavy armor.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XJ8S8_O0OYM

Achilles effortlessly defeated a larger stronger unarmoured opponent who had far more strength than Achilles in his throws/swings so its possible Maximus Can defeat The mountain clegane despite being bigger or stronger, assuming if he wasn't so heavily armored. But thats the problem, The mountain is usually heavily armored which is going to be a massive problem for Maximus.

Maximus was injured from a Mounted Praetorian BUT those were Commodus's best men, and Maximus killed one of them by throwing a sword at them. Youd think that maximus would utilize his speed due to the fact that he was able to kill a Tiger with speed before the tiger could kill him, the Tiger attacked him from his back where he couldn't see it since he was simultaneously fighting Tigris of Gaul, the undefeated gladiator in roman history. This means youd need alot of speed because Tigers are very fast and you would need alot of speed to turn into the Tiger at that range.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTmlYKiLBHI

Maximus also has a shield to protect himself from being pushed back so its kind of a safeguard. Even if the mountain pushes him back Maximus has a good chance. The weaponry Maximus has are also better than the weapons used in Troy which also helps.

The man who had his head crushed by the mountain is fodder to Maximus. Maximus would of massacred him by slicing that wooden spear in half with his fast swung dual swords.

Last of all, you can see how fast and swift some of Commodus's moves were, www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYNWgLJNW9g&t=1m25s especially in that last attack where there was a slow motion added. Commodus would massacre Paris and give Menelaus a run for his money. Menelaus was strong but he was far too slow compared to Commodus, but even though Commodus lacks combat experience which Menelaus has, Menelaus is past his prime and may be far too old which is why he lacked speed but had great power.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAHO0BVob8I

www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdSyFpX22S8&t=0m50s

Menelaus vs Paris https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eS9kqq6PNnQ

The biggest disadvantage for the mountain is that he is slow.

The mountain stats: Slightly more armored and much more power (assuming he isnt heavily plate armored in his golden plate armor)

The mountain uses a two hander.

Just to compare hand crushing Strength. Maximus stated he can crush a boys skull but not a mans. The mountain is able to crush a mans skull. This means Maximus is exceptionally strong. There is approximately 3 times more crushing strength in the mountain with these statements but alot more crushing hand strength does not decide a battle. Maximus also is fairly stronger than Prince Oberyn.

Maximus stats: Far more speed, far less power, uses a shield and sword OR two one handed swords. Has exceptional stamina.

CONCLUSION: If The mountain is heavily armored in the golden plate armor. Maximus loses.

If the mountain is not heavily armored in the golden plate armor he loses against Maximus (The weaker armor he used which was penetrated by a spear tip or the one he used in the skull crushing video)

If youve noticed, Maximus is very good at close range and his swords will penetrate that armor like a spear would. He will not be crushed so easily without sending a weapon into the hands of the mountain just as he sent an axe into the foot of Tigris while hitting him in the face with a shield.

If the mountain was heavily armored, Maximus cannot penetrate the armor in order to win.

If the mountain wasnt heavily armored, Maximus should be able to penetrate and use his speed such as in this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LoakLkFQ_NM in order to evade and strike the mountain with quick strikes but he would need to evade his two handed strikes or can use a shield to keep him safer, but this will still be dangerous for Maximus. Maximus must not be grappled so he will make sure he utilizes fast stabs with two one hand swords if the mountain gets too close. If Maximus uses a shield he risks not being able to keep the Mountain off him with as many stabs and can risk being grappled easier just like when Leonidas was fighting the uber immortal https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aZR5vfvZzi4 so I think Maximus should go dual wield against the mountain and lunge in and thrust at the right moments.

If the mountain is wearing golden plate armor it will add more weight to the greatsword and blocking all that weight may be hard which is why it's best to use dual wielded swords. Greatswords are also much heavier and slower despite having a reach advantage.

HOWEVER we can clearly see in that video that even with one sword, Maximus is extremely fast. The shield however will help at blocking the two hand sword so it all depends on how Maximus uses his weapons. The mountain will most likely rely on his brute charging and swinging in order to cut maximus.

MAXIMUS KILLED 3 GLADIATORS IN 7 SECONDS WITH NO SHIELD. JUST ONE ONE HAND.

That is the speed Maximus displayed on the first 3 gladiators who are easily on par with the men Ajax was killing in Troy. He then killed the 4th gladiator on the 12th second, the 5th gladiator on the 19th second and the 6th one was a stalled kill when he left the swords in the gladiator while he was staring at Proximo.

Yet the mountain is taking 3 seconds to charge 5 yards at the man whos sisters he raped.... Despite being claimed to be "quick on his feet"

That tells you alot about their speed.

The Uber immortals pain thresh hold is far more impressive than the Mountains and Maximus combined. It was ridiculous. The mountain is actually groaning from pain from being speared but the uber immortal doesnt feel it.

Achilles slightly > King Leonidas slightly > Uber Immortal > (Second rank Spartans) Stelios/Dilios/300 Captain = Maximus = Hector slightly > Ajax = The Mountain (thesame Mountain vs Oberyn) > Tigris of Gaul = William Wallace > Commodus > Menelaus > Paris

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#17 Edited by supasteed112 (2 posts) - - Show Bio

If Sandor can fight off the mountain so can Maximus. The only issue that stands now are the armor used. A greatsword can cut a person in half but maximus can also sever a head with short swords. Short swords have a shorter reach but are far faster. It's a draw in weapons. It all depends on how Maximus dodges the greatsword and pushes one of his swords against the blade of the greatsword to slow it down returning to slash him while simultaneously using his other arm to lunge in and stab and return back to range. The opponent would then have to counter this which is not easy. They would have to try and get a cut on him from range.

I also think if Maximus wore the armour from the GoT period he would be far more safer.