Master Order/Lord Chaos vs Mistress Death

Mistress Death takes on Order and Chaos of Marvel

VS

First Round: Death takes them on Individually

Second Round: Death takes them on at the same time

Death!

Order and Chaos made In-Betweener, who made Death nothing more than a servant who he bossed around. Not hard to tell who wins.

DEATH or Stalemate

Death's inferior to In-Betweener, so she'd lose against his superiors.

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Are you referring to when IB summoned Death back in Bronze/Modern Silver Surfer books?

That, and being stated to be superior to her in retrospectives.

@professorrespect:

Summoning an entity to do it's own function, or even to do one's bidding doesn't always mean that a summoner is greater than what it summons... IMO

IB also states that Galactus is his exact counterpart.

Would you put Galactus above Death?

Thor Beat The Inbetweener Galen beat him in a good Fight why is he being mentioned here?

OT!- Death can't be beaten by anything less then The Beyonder who makes Abstracts like Chaos and order look like children .....Even abstracts can die ...Order and Chaos are just parts that can cause Death. Death is greater then both. The beam in which Chaos and order are balanced too

Agree to an extent, and disagree as well!

To fully agree would be for me to admit that someone like the Summoner(Apocs gson) is greater than every single Outer-Realm, Lovecraftian monster that he summoned during X of Swords. I think there's exceptions! *Also, the Vishanti summoning LT doesn't scale them above him!

Agree

Killemall debunked Professor's wank 8 years ago:

https://comicvine.gamespot.com/forums/battles-7/death-of-the-endless-dc-vs-oblivion-marvel-1484905/?page=1#js-message-10070024

@cosmic_reign:

Post or Pre-Reton Beyonder?

You think Mistress Death is stronger than Molecule Man, Living Tribunal, Eternity and Infinity?

@impulse785: Not LT but yeah she should be a part of eternity Infinity so not stronger but yeah part of.

LT is different Hes the Whim of TOAA. Molecule Man isn't beyond death he too can die.

^ Case in point EXACTLY!

@cosmic_reign: None of this contests any of my points.

Death should stomp.

Death is directly inferior to her opponents, so not at all.

How?

By the above discussion already had?

Death just sends her boyfriend thanos to deal with these guys, No need to get her hands dirty

Thanos needed In-Betweener depowered completely just to handle him in combat. He gets shit-stomped by these two very easily.

How is a being that balances out Eternity(as a whole) less than a being that balances out functions within Eternitys inner functions?

The only way IB would stand a chance is if he were to upset the Cosmic balance in a different Abstracts favor. IMO

By the fact that one commands the other with distinction, and the other can't do anything about it. Direct cosmological gaps displayed there.

@professorrespect:

I added to my post...

Either way, I think you're missing the obvious Cosmic hierarchy, power and authority of these beings!

Feat-wise, anything can happen with plot and context....

Plot and context aren't factors here, through. It's a battle between two subjects with morals potent enough to fight against each other. One has shown direct superiority to the other.

By summoning? 😆

If you believe the Vishanti are greater than LT or G and Watcher greater than Eternity or Summoner greater than anything it summons, then I'll agree to disagree!

Still going with DEATH here vs Order/Chaos

@professorrespect:

Hmmm...

Anyway, the context to IB summoning Death in the 1st place was bc IB could NOT defeat the other Elders, in which Death came and bailed him out! Why would IB summon Death to bail him out if he's more powerful than her? Lol

Should be close, nothing suggest that they are one above each other by feats and Death is not neccesary the most relevant of the abstract in power. I would side with Master Order and Lord Chaos for being two abstracts by themselves.

Which doesn't seem to stress enough that Death is well above them in the cosmic hierarchy.

Fair

Did Death KILL the Elders for IB? Bc from what I remember, the Elders are Immortal bc of Death!

If she was above them, then she wouldn't be bossed around by their lesser construct. She can be wherever on the scale, but that factor into their power remains. She's stated to only "preserve" the natural forces, not be beyond them.

She killed three of the lesser ones, but considering they've showed up in later comics, one can assume this wasn't the case forever as per the Elders' immortality.

@professorrespect: If she was above them, then she wouldn't be bossed around by their lesser construct. She can be wherever on the scale, but that factor into their power remains. She's stated to only "preserve" the natural forces, not be beyond them.

I see. So you think the duo could take Eternity?

More accurately, as per Deaths allowance!

That particular story was a showcase for In-Betweener, so obviously per plot, he's gonna have good showings... but with context!

Again tho, In-Betweener is the balancer of an inner function(Order/Chaos) of ETERNITY, whom DEATH itself happens to be the balancer of. Note the levels...

OT

Death by hierarchy should scale above Order/Chaos... Tho I do believe lesser Abstracts can defeat Prime Abstracts by way of tilting balances!

Eternity jobs endlessly, it's impossible to judge the poor guy.

We do know that tho... I'm sure you know the Elders history/myths!?

Agree... BUT *Note the levels...

I do, but the Elders can and have returned from beings far stronger than them wiping them from existence. It's their unique immortality that allows them to show up again and again.

Sure, the Elders can be destroyed and even erased.... but THEY CAN'T DIE due to Death blessing them with NO access/acceptance into her domain!-- out of respect though, since each Elder is the last survivor of its race.

I tend to agree with Professor quite a bit, but..

Cmon, Death wins this, no contest.

Quite Interesting I thought maybe she could beat one of them but both of them wow

I mean Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet would beat all 3 at the same time like he did in the Infinity Gauntlet comics lol

Yeah, Dookie should stick to RTs...

That's not a argument. We've seen the tale of the tape and Chaos and Order have direct superiority over herself while the latter has not been shown to be the case.

@professorrespect: wtf? in-betweener had to combined with elders of the universe to even challenge Shuma gorath

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/D6RzwkcWZdfZZ1RHoTT1LVqPHlgeP4McMxK4N-f6DywcTPv0pP6PiLx_Yqj3mcQ6D1JaB-oY0kpEQ1Sz2hpxyTzX0V27ZaSi36KxpdOqVFGBnAdpuJPYmwkh5-mXhwufHEAkcXaY1Q=s1600

who is stated to be a servant of mistress death on panel?

https://2.bp.blogspot.com/D6RzwkcWZdfZZ1RHoTT1LVqPHlgeP4McMxK4N-f6DywcTPv0pP6PiLx_Yqj3mcQ6D1JaB-oY0kpEQ1Sz2hpxyTzX0V27ZaSi36KxpdOqVFGBnAdpuJPYmwkh5-mXhwufHEAkcXaY1Q=s1600

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Need i say more? Death in classic marvel doesn't and never does release he power or fight ... That's without counting death superior feats like giving Thanos enough power to clap multi eternity

@professorrespect: Death is way beyond order and chaos especially modern Comics Version.

She most certainly would stomp these fodders.