rules: h2h only - no gadgets, weapons, super powers/abilities and so on you get the idea both teams have 1 full day prep (gets to study their opponenents) battle takes place in gotham city, they start from 30 feet within each other bloos lust on which team wins?
"DC Wins and Robin is just useless and in the way "
why and how? "
Karate Kid is already a better fighter than anyone listed and Canary is rivaled about on par with Lady Shiva now in h2h and was able to rip out Deathstroke's eye and fend him off even before her Shiva training. And Damian is good but he is just not needed
@Son_of_Magnus: well i placed robin since he would be the wealkest link for team dc which will essentially make this battle 3 on 2 sometime during the fight and i don't think this battle will be easy for team dc here, all of the marvel characters can hold their own and are also considered one of the best marvel h2h combatants as well
First Round match ups Karate Kid > Gamora Iron Fist > Canary Daredevil > Robin
Second Round match ups Karate Kid Vs Iron Fist & Daredevil ? KK has some insane feats, but I'm not completely convinced. Especially if you consider he just has a bout against Gamora right before this.
Question about Karate Kid. Its stated that he is a master of every form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 30th Century now is it every form of martial arts on Earth or the Universe?
" Question about Karate Kid. Its stated that he is a master of every form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 30th Century now is it every form of martial arts on Earth or the Universe? "
" Question about Karate Kid. Its stated that he is a master of every form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 30th Century now is it every form of martial arts on Earth or the Universe? "
@Son_of_Magnus: i don't know i think daredevil can be troublesome for canary as well, remember she can not use her cry in this battle
@Myth2009 said:
"Question about Karate Kid. Its stated that he is a master of every form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 30th Century now is it every form of martial arts on Earth or the Universe? "
" @Son_of_Magnus: i don't know i think daredevil can be troublesome for canary as well, remember she can not use her cry in this battle
@Myth2009 said:
"Question about Karate Kid. Its stated that he is a master of every form of martial arts to have been developed up to the 30th Century now is it every form of martial arts on Earth or the Universe? "
i'm quite positive it's earth only "
No he knows all the alien ones as well like kryptonian MA that is why he can tag and hurt Kryptonians even though he is human because he knows some unknow plot alien fighting style
He knows every documented martial art style as well as possessing a a non meta ability to find the weakest points on anything this skill is due to his Martial Arts mastery
@Son_of_Magnus: i don't think kk has master all the ma techinques in dcu, he may be accustomed to some of them outside earth but not a master of all from what i know at least ( do not quote me on this tho i ain't the expert on kk, i think static or vance may know more on this issue)
@Myth2009 said:
" @capall: If its only Earth then Marvel takes it because of Gamora her skill encompasses the universe not just one planet. "
i respectfully disagree, remember knowing and applying is completely different, also she has been hit and hurt by far inferior fighters than her in the past
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did.
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did. "
And Daredevil beat 100 armed yakuza's in an alley, it's nothing very special, Daredevil has held up with the top of Marvel like Steve Rogers and others, everyone gauges Deathstrokes eye. Daredevil defeats more consistant opponents than Ras Al Ghul, Talia and Vic.
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did. "
And Daredevil beat 100 armed yakuza's in an alley, it's nothing very special, Daredevil has held up with the top of Marvel like Steve Rogers and others, everyone gauges Deathstrokes eye. Daredevil defeats more consistant opponents than Ras Al Ghul, Talia and Vic. "
Ya but Canary is now considered Shiva's equal plus DD does not have his radar sense in this fight
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did. "
And Daredevil beat 100 armed yakuza's in an alley, it's nothing very special, Daredevil has held up with the top of Marvel like Steve Rogers and others, everyone gauges Deathstrokes eye. Daredevil defeats more consistant opponents than Ras Al Ghul, Talia and Vic. "
Ya but Canary is now considered Shiva's equal plus DD does not have his radar sense in this fight "
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did. "
And Daredevil beat 100 armed yakuza's in an alley, it's nothing very special, Daredevil has held up with the top of Marvel like Steve Rogers and others, everyone gauges Deathstrokes eye. Daredevil defeats more consistant opponents than Ras Al Ghul, Talia and Vic. "
Ya but Canary is now considered Shiva's equal plus DD does not have his radar sense in this fight "
So he cant do anything? "
Daredevil can still beat most street levelers with out his radar sense he has shown he is still more than capable of holding his own with out it since he has fought without it before he just loses allot of meta skills Plus what about those famous blind monks Deathstroke has killed people blind =]
" @capall: I do not think it will be easy but I still think DC will win but I do stand by my word that Robin is only fodder "
fair enough, do you think kk is capable of taking on any two of the marvel characters? "
De-powered Gamora and Iron Fist will not be to much trouble for him and Canary should be able to handle Daredevil "
Canary isn't handling Daredevil. "
Canary with her upgrade will she can react faster than a gunman with his gun on a person's head from feet away she defeated and fended off a well equipped Army of 50+ plus. She has held up in fights with Shiva, Cassie, and gauged Deathstroke's eye out. She has defeated Ras Al Ghul as well as Talia and Lady Vic. She made a mockery of the woman who trained Shiva. She also went through the very same training Shiva did. "
And Daredevil beat 100 armed yakuza's in an alley, it's nothing very special, Daredevil has held up with the top of Marvel like Steve Rogers and others, everyone gauges Deathstrokes eye. Daredevil defeats more consistant opponents than Ras Al Ghul, Talia and Vic. "
Ya but Canary is now considered Shiva's equal plus DD does not have his radar sense in this fight "
So he cant do anything? "
Daredevil can still beat most street levelers with out his radar sense he has shown he is still more than capable of holding his own with out it since he has fought without it before he just loses allot of meta skills Plus what about those famous blind monks Deathstroke has killed people blind =] "
the radar sense is how he gets his feel for the area..with out it he's still just a blind man.
I understand where you are coming from especially in regards to knowing and applying, however Gamora have applied what she has learned countless times thus the reason she garners the moniker as the most dangerous woman in the universe also doesn't she still possess her nigh unbreakable skeleton in this fight?
Wouldn't you guys say the fact that Gamora has mastered 83.4% of most known armed and unarmed techniques from various warfaring cultures in the entire universe (and she does apply all that knowledge) gives her an advantage over KK with his mastery of just one Planet (Earth) and some knowledge on Krypton (even if he mastered that culture's MA)?
oh I don't know too much about karate kid but reading about his stats he seems pretty damn unstoppable in this scenario that's why I'm asking...
Ya but Canary is now considered Shiva's equal plus DD does not have his radar sense in this fight "
She's not Shiva's equal though.She's not even better than Bruce. "
The way Gail Simone has been making her yes Gail Simone has been writing her into DC's elite Martial Artists for awhile "
Gail Simone can write her how ever.She's still not better than Wayne. "
Not really her recent training is what put her above Bruce she has been able to go tow to toe with Cassie and Shiva and has been pulling out Cassie style ludicrous feats
Not really her recent training is what put her above Bruce she has been able to go tow to toe with Cassie and Shiva and has been pulling out Cassie style ludicrous feats "
You say this as if Bruce can't.Going toe to toe and winning are two different things.Neither of them are better than Cassie or Shiva,nor can they beat them.So how is she better? Bruce has a crapload of credible fighting skill feats.All you got is going toe to toe with Cassie and Shiva? Nightwing has gone toe to toe with Deathstroke..doesn't mean he can beat him or he's on his level.
@Vance Astro: Shiva has said in the Birds book that Canary is her equal they never really got to finish the fights between them. Her strike power is enough to go straight through solid concrete and is faster than a bullet can leave the chamber
" @Vance Astro: Shiva has said in the Birds book that Canary is her equal they never really got to finish the fights between them. Her strike power is enough to go straight through solid concrete and is faster than a bullet can leave the chamber "
Yea, and Reed Richards said that Spider-Man was his intellectual equal when everyone knows that Pym,Stark,and a whole bunch of others are smarter.Words have to be backed up by application,showings,feats....
I can find you a ton of things "said" in comics that aren't true.
As far as what she can do physically.What A-list street leveler in DC can't do those things?
Also as far as the comparison to DD.First of all his senses aren't a power so I don't know why they are taken from him,but whatever.It's actually the only way he see.That's a severe handicap.I thought the "no powers" was more for Karate Kid and Gamora.Anyway.She's not a better fighter than DD either.Elektra acknowledges his skills over his and her feats trump Canary's quite easily.
EDIT:If he can use his radar sense.She will obviously curbstomp him.Otherwise,No Sale.
@Vance Astro: Canary has not had time to truly show her new skills since she took so long off the super powered life. As well she has super senses as well she was able to defeat over ten men who spent there lives training with the woman who trained Shiva with a bag over her head and has defeated more with the bag off. She also like I said took down an army with tanks and over 50 troops undetected till she had no other option than she moved so quickly they did not even have the chance to shoot at her and without killing them because she is against killing then winning the respect of the officer who turned the army away
@Vance Astro: Her training and the way she is spoken of by Mother the woman who trained Shiva and by Shiva herself I am sure in the new BOP series she will blow everyone away
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