Marvel & DC Rankings

Since a few people don't like the rankings as they are because they don't truly represent the power of most characters, the following is a more accurate ranking. I didn't create this, it was on another forum. At the end is a link to the original page and a couple others like it. Disclaimer: The list ain't perfect. If you can make better, go for it. Also, the list only covers Marvel and DC (and all the comics from publishers they own). [It might take me a while to get this all in right so save your comments until the end please.]

Marvel

• Tier 1 - [ 1st Class +Beyond ]

The One Above All/Heart of the Universe

• Tier 2 - [ 2nd Class +Beyond ]:

The Living Tribunal

• Tier 3 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale ]:

Multi-Eternity/

Multi-Infinity/

Multi-Death/

Phoenix Force/

Infiniti/IG/Nemesis/

Genesis (Sise-Neg)

• Tier 4 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract or Scale ]:

Abysss/

Phoenix of the White Crown/

The Sword in the Star/

The Legion or "Prime Evil" (All the demons merged as one entity before they split into different demon lords and dimensions throughout the multiverse)/

The Darkness/

G-Force/

Nth Man/

The Void/

Korvac (Power of Six Abstracts from What if?)/

Ultimate Nullifier (I'm really not sure if this thing belongs here. Let me know please.)

• Tier 5 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

The Infinites/

The Beyonders/

Masters of the Matrix/

Hunger (Thanos foe, I heard that it ate universes. Please let me know if he does belong here)

• Tier 6 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Eternity/

Infinity/

Oblivion/

Death/

Entity (What If?)/

Lord Order /

Master Chaos/

The Other/

The Dreaming God/

The Ankh/

The Enigma Force/

Uni-lord/

Abadon (Original when it was the embodiment of it's own universe)/

Lectra and Phaydra/

Zokk and Maftra the twin gods of Therea/

Anthropomorpho/

The Trion/

Galactus (fully powered)/

The Creator/

The Creator's Staff/

Job Burke/

Scrier (usurping the Creator's Staff)

• Tier 7 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Sire Hate/

Mistress Love

The Friendless

Entropy/

Epiphany/

Enmity/

Empathy/

Expediency/

Eulogy/

Eon/

Epoch/

Valka/

Abraxas/

The Unbeing/

Origin/

The Goblin Entity/

Cyttorak/

Those Who Sit Above in Shadow/

The Vishanti/

Nightmare/

Hell Lords inside their own realm

Mephisto/

Raggadoor/

Cinnibus/

Satannish/

Shuma-Gorath/

Denak/

Chthon/

Tiboro/

Hell-Eyes/

Llan/

Arioch/

Dormammu/

The Adversary/

Inanna/

The Darkforce Dimension/

The Dragon of the Moon/

Archenemy/

Maya/

Great One/

Atlez /

Atleza/

Zalkor/

Fallen Stars/

Mr. Termineus/

Sorrow

• Tier 8 - [ High Level Metaphysical + Semi-Abstracts ]

Galactus (highly fed)/

In-Betweener/

The Celestials/

The Absolutes/

The Makers/

Mirage/

Time Twisters /

Time Keepers /

Hunger (embodiment of Hunger)/

Anomaly/

He Who Summons - Leader of the Watchers/

Kronos/

He Who Remains /

• Tier 9 - [ Minor Omnipotent Level + Upper Class Reality Warpers ]

Cosmic Cube/Cosmic Cube Beings

Known Developed Cosmic Cube

Beyonder/

Kubik/

Shaper of Worlds/

Supremor (I)/

Maker/

Star Thief I (Defender character)/

Vaangard/

Molecule Man/

Jim Jaspers/

Sword of the Elder Gods/

Devourer of Souls (With power of the Elders)/

The M'Kraan Crystal/

Mikhail Rasputin/

Lifestone Tree/

• Tier 10 - [ Metaphysical and Semi-Abstract Level ]:

Galactus (average)/

The Dreamqueen/

The Watchers/

Abrogate /

Stranger/

Vortex/

Demogorge (Atum)/

Rune Thor/

Trion Juggernaut/

Daydream/

Hawk God/

Xorr, the God Jewel/

Wise Man and the Three Wise Men/

Walker/

Deathurge/

the Body/

• Tier 11 - [ Elder Gods ]:

Odin (Fully powered)

Elder Gods

Chthon/

Demiurge/

Set/

Gaea/

Elder Gods of the Hyborian Age

Crom/

Mitra/

Asura/

Seth/

Surtur/

K'ad-Mon/

King Thor/

Hell Lords outside their own realm

Mephisto/

Raggadorr/

Cinnibus/

Shuma Gorath/

Satannish/

Tiboro/

Llan/

Dormammu/

The Adversary/

Inanna/

The Dragon of the Moon/

• Tier 12 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]

Franklin Richards/

Proteus/Piecemeal/

Kelly/

Donna/

Haven (Radha Dastoor) and her son combined/

Composite Ngh and Ahh/

Jonz Rickard/

Alfie O'Meagan/

Jamie Braddock/

Hutch/

Mysterious Fan Boy/

Yazdi Gem

• Tier 13 - [ Multiple Planetary-Star Scale: Skyfathers + Upper Class Team Wreckers + Lower Class Reality Warpers ]:

Other Skyfather Pantheons (Odin (varies), Zeus [Olympian], Osiris [Egyptian], Manitou [Anasazi], Anu [Annunaki], etc.)/

Doctor Strange (Fullest)/

Hyperstorm/

Cleito/

Evenor/

The Silent Ones/

Master of the Sun/

Star Thief (Adam Warlock Foe)

Elders of the Universe

Architect/

Astronomer/

Caregiver/

Champion/

Collector/

Contemplator/

Ego/

Explorer/

Father Time/

Gardner/

Grand Astrogator/

Grandmaster/

Judicator/

Obliterator/

Possessor/

Runner/

Trader/

Arcadia Deville/

The Futurists/

Mister M/

Alpa the Ultimate Mutant

Cosmic Skyfathers

Veeda Leebre /

Kronnit/

Zuras/

Mentor/

Ghuar psionic final form/

The One Above (Dionists worship)

Skup Collins/

Scatterbrain/

Orphan/

Overshadow/

Soul-Eater (Spirit Mold)

• Tier 14 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods + Lower Class Team Wreckers + High End Psionics + Composite Beings ]:

Thanos/

Death Gods (Pluto, Hades, Hela, Set, Pluto, Yama, etc)/

The Bottle Imp/

Supreme Intelligence/

Demonstaff/

Hunger (Fantastic Four foe)/

Shadow King/

Undying Ones/

Lord Tantalus/

Lord Khult/

Holly-Ann Ember/

Xemnu the Titan/

Bysshe/

Paloma/

Germain Royce/

Cloud/

The Dance/

Kaluu/

The Protector/

Touchstone/

Psi-Lord Franklin Richards/

Mantis/

The Walkers/

The Defiler/

Meggan and the Fairies/

Huntarr/

Mindstar/

Doctor Strange (varies)/

Modred the Mystic/

Nebulon/

Supernalia/

Varnae/

Kulan Gath/

Urthona/

Ultimus/

Thoth Amon /

Sleepwalkers/

Super-Adaptoids/

Audit/

Franklin 2099/

Moleculon/

Mangog/

Onslaught (Varies)/

Uni-Mind/

Anti-Mind/

Young Gods' Uni-Mind/

Overmind/

Armaziel, Tzadqiel, and other Cosmic Angels + Asuras

• Tier 15 - [ Top Tiers ]:

Thor/

Silver Surfer/

Morg/

Beta Ray Bill/

Firelord/

X-Man (Shaman)/

Adam Warlock/

Magneto/

Moondragon/

Ikarrus/

Sersi/

Black Bolt/

Quasar/

Maelstrom/

Captain Marvel (Mar-vell, Genis, Phylla-vell)/

Kro/

Thena/

Emperor/

Val-Or/

Moondragon/

Sundragon/

Avatar/

Apocalypse/

X-Man/

• Tier 16 - [ 2nd Tiers ]:

Iron Man/

Namor/

Wonder Man/

Hercules/

Ghost Rider/

Lunatik/

Vision/

Scarlet Witch/

Professor Xavier/

Hellstorm/

Salome/

Soulfire

• Tier 17 - [ 3rd Tiers ]:

Sue Richards/

The Thing/

Human Torch/

Emma Frost/

Ice Man/

Colossus/

Bishop/

Medusa/

Flipside 2099

• Tier 18 - [ Upper Mid Tiers]:

Mister Fantastic/

Rogue/

Cyclops/

Gambit/

Archangel/

Psylocke/

Cannonball/

Venom /

Carnage

• Tier 19 - [ Lower Mid Tiers]:

Spiderman/

Wolverine/

Beast/

Nightcrawler/

Jubilee/

Sabretooth/

Warpath/

Shadowcat/

Jessica Jones

• Tier 20 - [ Upper Street Levels]:

Captain America/

Daredevil/

Black Panther/

Hawkeye/

USAgent/

Green Goblin/

Hob Goblin/

Vermin/

Doctor Octopus

• Tier 21 - [ Mid Street Levels]:

The Punisher/

Blade/

Elektra/

Black Cat/

Black Widow/

Shang Chi

• Tier 22 - [ Lower Street Levels]:

Red Skull/

King Pin/

Kate Bishop/

Mockingbird/

Swordsman/

Childs/

Shadow Slasher/

Red Guardian

Post Edited:2007-02-18 20:00:09

applause Holy wall of text!

DC

• Tier 1 - [ 1st Class +Beyond ]:

The Presence/Rama Kushna/Meshta

• Tier 2 - [ 1st Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

The Ultimate Darkness/

The Ultimate Light/

The Source/

• Tier 3 - [ 2nd Class Multiversal Abstract Entity ]:

Lucifer Morningstar /

Archangel Michael/

Elaine

• Tier 4 - [ 3rd Class Multiversal Entity ]:

Anti-Monitor (full form)/

Ultimator/10th Dimensional Beings/

Hyperman

The Endless

Death

The Witching Hour

• Tier 5 - [ 1st Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

Spectre (Fully powered)

Parallax/

Parallax Entity/

Ion (Original)/

The Anti-Life Entity/

The Ecrus/

Shattered Gods/

The Warlogog/

The A/

Captain Atom (the one that created a universe)/

Kismet (if you want to go by JLA/Avengers)/

Carnivore/

Genesis Box/

Una, the Cosmic Worm of Heaven and Hell/

Maaldor (Universe)

• Tier 6 - [ 2nd Class Universal Abstract Entity + Dimensional God ]:

The Endless

Destiny/

Dream/

Destruction/

Desire/

Despair/

Dellirium/

Decreator/

Godwave

Hell Lords inside their own realm

Neron/

Trigon/

Neron/

Satannish/

Satanus/

Azmodus/

Shaitan/

Eclipso/

Satan/

King of Tears/

Koth Sugoth/

• Tier 7 - [ High Level Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract ]

Spectre (High powered)/

Eclipso, Wrath of God (High powered)/

Time Trapper/

Infinite Man/

Archangel Gabriel

• Tier 8 - [ "Minor Omnipotent" Level]

The 5th Dimensional Imps

Known 5th Dimensiona Imps

Mr. Mxyzptlk/

Lkz/

Yz/

Bat-Mite/

Qwisp

The Great Tree

• Tier 9 - [ Metaphysical + Semi-Abstract level ]:

Spectre (average)/

The Lurker/

Entropy (Krona)/

The Word/

Imperiex/

Brainiac 13/

Abraxus/

Promethian Giants/

Quantum Mechanics/

Black Racer/

Black Flash/

Kulak/

Mystos/

Shadrack/

Hellion/

Eclipso - Wrath of God (average)/

Spear of Destiny/

Superman Prime

Lords of Order

-Lord Kilderkin /

-J'akk /

-Kismet /

-Nabu: Nabu the Wise /

-Pantagones /

-Shatru/

-St'ann /

-Terataya /

-Ynar /

Lords of Chaos

-Child/

-Gorrum/

-Hytuurnus /

-Mordru /

-M'Shulla/

-Nabu: Nabu the Wise /

-Shivering Jemmy /

-T'Charr /

-The Weaver /

-The Shallow Brigade and the Laughing Dancers /

-The five original Lords of Chaos (Appeared in Grant Morrison's and later

Ann Nocienti's Kid Eternity series - #:Chaos is viewed as a good force

here)/

-Typhon/

-Vandaemon /

-Zanadu the Chaos Maker

Stigmonus Monsiur

• Tier 10 - [ Low Level Metaphysical-High Class Mutants: Reality Warping Level ]

Bedlam/

Thunderbolt (inhibited)

• Tier 11 - [ Older Gods]

The Old Gods

Arzaz (heroic Old God)/

Balduur (heroic Old God whose atoms formed New Genesis)/

The Dreggs (the undead)/

Lokee (god of evil)/

The Nameless One (evil Old God)/

Wotan (ruler of the Old Gods)/

etc.

S'ivaa the Destroyer and Dark Elements/

Maggedon/

Yuga Khan/

Clockwerx/

King of Tears (Outside it's realm)

• Tier 12 - [ Skyfather level + Upper Class Team Wrecker ]:

Cosmic Skyfathers

Darkseid (High showings)/

Highfather Izaya/

Shazam

Guardians of the Universe/

The Controllers/

Zamarons/

Skyfather pantheons (Odin, Zeus, Dove, etc.)/

Ares/

Cosmic Gamblers

Hell Lords outside their own realm

Neron/

Trigon/

Neron/

Satannish/

Satanus/

Azmodus/

Shaitan/

Eclipso/

Satan

Wonderland Inhabitants/

Doctor Fate (Fullest)/

Eclipso (depowered)/

Superman One Million/

Tynan ( the balance between Chaos and Order)

The Archangels

Gabriel/

Uriel/

Raphael/

Sarauquel/

Raguel

Oblivion/

Sun Eater/

Solaris/

Owners of the Earth/

Millenium Giants/

Trinity Giants (Guardians' god)/

The Elder gods of Shazam (Marzosh, Arel, Ribalvei, Voldar, Elbiam, Lumium)/

The Luck Lords

• Tier 13 - [ Planetary-Star Scale: Death Gods + Lower Class Team Wreckers + High End Psionics ]

Despero/

Darkseid (varies)/

Helspont/

Lord Defile/

Hightower/

Lord Emp/

Doctor Fate (Normal)/

Validus/

Sun-Dipped Superman/

Fernus/

Takion/

Stayne/

Hourman III/

Waverider/

Godfrey Gaius (Actual form)/

Eye of Ekron/

Black Zero/

Swamp Thing (World Elemental)

Parliaments

Trees/

Stones/

Water/

Fire/

Air

Elementals

Firestorm/

Naiad/

Red Tornado/

Swamp Thing/

Elemental of Stone

Death Gods (Set, Pluto, Hel Half-Rotted, Kali, Hades, Persephone, etc.)/

Validus/

Omnimar Synn/

Overmaster/

the Doctor (any one since each has the powers of all previous Doctors)

• Tier 14 - [ Top Tiers ]:

Superman/

Green Lantern (varies)/

The Flash III/

Zoom II/

Mister Majestic/

Black Adam/

Doomsday/

Sinestro/

Orion/

Cyborg Superman/

Captain Marvel/

Martian Manhunter/

Sentinel/

Triumph/

Mantis/

Brimstone

Earth-Born Angel

Supergirl/

Comet /

Twilight /

Blithe

Other Angels

The Seraphim/

The Cherubim

Apollo/

Lightray/

Captain Atom/

Firestorm/

Doctor Polaris/

Bizarro

• Tier 15 - [ 2nd-Tiers ]:

Wonder Woman/

Captain Atom/

Superboy/

Supergirl/

Captain Marvel Jr./

Mary Marvel/

Lobo/

Etrigan/

Power Girl/

The Flash (Barry Allen)/

Kalibak/

Agogg/

Lex Luthor (armored)/

Zatanna/

Zauriel/

Asmodel/

Army of the Pax-Dei Angels

Steel

• Tier 16 - [ 3rd-Tiers ]

Hercules/

Metallo/

The Ray/

Donna Troy/

Madame Xanadu/

Kinetix/

Doctor Light

• Tier 17 - [ Upper Mid Tiers ]

Aquaman/

Vandal Savage/

Blue Devil/

Wonder Girl/

Tempest/

The Flash (Jay Garrick)/

Impulse/Kid Flash/

Hawkman/

Plastic Man/

Elongated Man

• Tier 18 - [ Lower Mid Tiers ]

The Atom/

The Creeper/

Animal Man/

Clayface/

Vixen

• Tier 19 - [ Upper Street Level ]

Batman/

Joker/

Bane/

Deathstroke/

Owlman/

Green Arrow/

Merylyn/

Blue Beetle (Jaime Reyes)/

Azrael

• Tier 20 - [ Mid Street Level ]

Nightwing/

Deadshot/

Wildcat/

Black Canary/

Batgirl (Cassandra Cain)/

Green Arrow (Connor Hawke)/

Arsenal (Roy Harper)/

Hitman/

Catwoman/

Shado/

Blue Beetle (Ted Kord)/

Richard Dragon/

Lady Shiva

• Tier 21 - [ Lower Street Level ]

Robin/

Huntress/

Speedy (Mia Dearden)/

Arrowette (Cissie King-Jones)/

Penguin/

Harley Quinn

Post Edited:2007-02-18 20:33:53

Will someone fill me in on the One Above All and the Heart of the Universe? I always thought Living Tribunal was the most powerful in Marvel.

Links

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/419111_1-marvel-top-tiers-and-dc-top-tiers

http://www.killermovies.com/forums/390246_1-the-dc-hierachy-of-power

http://www.comixtreme.com/forums/archive/index.php/t-17314.html

Post" />http://www.killermovies.com/forums/351063_1-great-evil-beast-vs-marvel-universe
Post Edited:2007-02-18 20:23:06

Fourpower says:

"*applause* Holy wall of text!"

I really can't believe that you couldn't wait until I was finished. I asked you to in the first post.

Aside from a few entries, mainly concerning lower tiers, I think it's fairly accurate. Good job to whoever did it.

Buckshot, this could be an cool article on the site. Could go under "concepts" I would think. We'd just have to put it in our own words of course.

How would we do that? It's really just a list of names.

Well I'll do that then and if it's not enough I can always edit it later. Sound good?

EDIT: Actually, I have a couple questions. Should it be two concepts, with DC and Marvel separate or should they be together? Should I just add them to the Marvel and DC universe entries that already exist or create new ones? Tell me what you guys think.
Post Edited:2007-02-19 00:44:58

You could just name the concepts "Marvel Power Rankings" and "DC Power Rankings". Insert a short intro stating what it's about and then a large list of names... that's it, I would assume.

Post Edited:2007-02-19 00:45:34

Marvel and DC should be separate, otherwise it would feel incomplete without Image, Wildstorm, Top Cow, etc. power rankings...

On the other matter, maybe include a short stub with the general idea in the Marvel and DC Universe concept pages and create new pages with the full article?

mmm Maybe you should wait until one of the staff members answers...

I was going to do them as one thing but separate from the main Marvel/DC pages, but I think I'll end up doing it the way you suggested, seems better. I'll wait for the staff though.

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Prurience Man says:

"Buckshot says:

"Well I'll do that then and if it's not enough I can always edit it later. Sound good?EDIT: Actually, I have a couple questions. Should it be two concepts, with DC and Marvel separate or should they be together? Should I just add them to the Marvel and DC universe entries that already exist or create new ones? Tell me what you guys think.
Post Edited:2007-02-19 00:44:58"

It would be really great to set up some kind of table and place the two side-by-side. I don't know if they are meant to be viewed that way, but if so it would be very beneficial to see them presented as such. (ie. Superman and Thanos are Tier 14 on their respective lists. Does this mean they are in the same relative power class? Or do the two lists have no relation to one another.)

In addition, it would be fantastic to see our community develop comparative lists with the other publisher's characters. "

I wouldn't look at Tier #'s, look at the labels. Tier 14 is planetary scale in Marvel but in DC, planetary is Tier 13. And I agree, doing our own lists for other characters would be great.

Good find, those lists seems pretty accurate.

I say make 2 different pages. And link to them on the DC and Marvel concept pages.

This will be good for our google search results too. People search for things like "List of DC Characters" and they might end up getting: http://www.comicvine.com/browse/&pubId=10&gId=2 Hopefully as Comicvine grows we will become more and more the defacto site that google sends people to for Comic results. So my reasoning is, make specific pages for things and really elaborate on them, it makes it easier for Google to get people to our pages. That's what we want, to be the best and most interesting source of comic knowledge.

That list is missing The Sentry just so you know I think he would go on Top Tier 15 or at the very least 16.

Probably because his powerlevel is relatively undefined yet.

Yeah, there's always going to be a huge amount missing. I don't quite understand some of the rationale used for rankings, in terms of "power" especially for the divisions between "street levels". Is it "who beats who"? Is it in terms of dangerousness? I am just curious how they divide up "street level", and why they wouldn't all be one class.

I mean, to assume that Batman and the Joker are equal in "power level" (I'm using a lot of quotes, as I don't know the definitions) is ridiculous. The Joker is an insane serial killer who sets up bizarre traps. But many of the lower "street level" characters could hand him his ass in a fight.

But, of course, Buckshot was good enough to pre-empt this and say we didn't have to agree. Which is good. Since "in-continuity", many of these lower level characters have beaten the higher level ones.

The list looks good, I think some are open to debate and some vary depending on who writes them. I like the idea of lists for individual publishers, but it might be nice when that's up to work on a comparative list. I think Spidey is as powerful as some of the people two tiers above him (Torch, Iceman). Arcangel Gabriel appears twice in the DC list, I dunno if that's an error or if there are two.

The list looks good, I think some are open to debate and some vary depending on who writes them. I like the idea of lists for individual publishers, but it might be nice when that's up to work on a comparative list. I think Spidey is as powerful as some of the people two tiers above him (Torch, Iceman). Arcangel Gabriel appears twice in the DC list, I dunno if that's an error or if there are two.

"The list really only takes into account the powers of characters, not necessarily how they would use their powers, so while a very intelligent character might actually be able to beat a more powerful character two tiers up, that doesn't automatically move them up."

I just wrote the first part of the pages and that line of it addresses your Spiderman issue, but do you really think spiderman is on the same level as someone like torch, who can go supernova, or iceman, who can control all moisture and could freeze the Earth if he really wanted to? I'm not sure about the Gabriel thing but there are a couple other people show up more than once. Sometimes it's two people with the same name or the same person but different versions.

Buckshot says:

"I just wrote the first part of the pages and that line of it addresses your Spiderman issue, but do you really think spiderman is on the same level as someone like torch, who can go supernova, or iceman, who can control all moisture and could freeze the Earth if he really wanted to?"

Point taken, although that does start to imply that a power's worth is measured by it's destructive potential (I didn't realise Iceman was quite THAT powerful). Looking at his tier, I'd say he is more powerful than Wolverine or Jubilee as he is stronger, faster, more agile, precognitive to danger and able to cling to walls (he has more powers than both of them together and they are both more destructive and with greater utilty). I think that could be levelled at Reed Richards (who can only stretch his body if we take skills out) and all Cyclops can do is shoot force blasts which would be easily avoided by the Spider Sense.

My point is that some are open to debate, which is why it might be good to allow debate on them and if we achieve a concensus (ok, now I'm dreaming) see about shifting them. But I think it would be better to put them up first, it is a good list, and then discuss alterations (like Spidey a tier up) one or two at a time.

Yeah, that's a good idea and it would help make it "ours". I put on the entries that before you edit the page, you should discuss it in the battles board so maybe this would we the place we discuss alterations to the rankings.

Just because you don't know about TOAA doesn't mean he stops being #1. Did you try to look for any information on the One Above All? I know there's some on wikipedia and marvel.com but I couldn't tell you any comic source.

The Time Keeper says:

"Okay, cool! I apologize in advance, because I know I've asked this question before, but I can't remember the answer, if one was given. Is there a website or comic book reference where I can look up The One Who is Above All? I say that we put the Living Tribunal at #1 in the Marvel Universe, but I only say that because I don't know diddley about The One Who is Above All. Anyone know about "The One"?"

TOAA, the non-Celestial-non-Gundam looking one, is essentially God in the Marvel Universe. Living Tribunal is his whipping boy.

I like your new look Scoodle.

The Time Keeper says:

"Okay, cool! I apologize in advance, because I know I've asked this question before, but I can't remember the answer, if one was given. Is there a website or comic book reference where I can look up The One Who is Above All? I say that we put the Living Tribunal at #1 in the Marvel Universe, but I only say that because I don't know diddley about The One Who is Above All. Anyone know about "The One"?"

Marvel vs Dc miniseries.

ScoodleDaddle says:

"TOAA, the non-Celestial-non-Gundam looking one, is essentially God in the Marvel Universe. Living Tribunal is his whipping boy."

God? On the Marvel rankings I would put God in tier 7 or maybe 8 at the highest.

fesak says:

"ScoodleDaddle says:

"TOAA, the non-Celestial-non-Gundam looking one, is essentially God in the Marvel Universe. Living Tribunal is his whipping boy."

God? On the Marvel rankings I would put God in tier 7 or maybe 8 at the highest.

"

I mean the figurative God. I mean, his name says it all. "The One Above All" He's the man in charge of the whole shebang. 616, 982, 1610, all of 'em.

And thanks, Buckshot. I really liked the icon. And it took me a long time to crop. >_>

Hey Buckshot hate to admit this but those are really good.

Phoenix Force should be in tier 7, Silver Surfer should be in tier 13. And I'm not sure, but I think the Enigma-Force should be in tier 7 aswell. And Captain Mar-Vell should probably be lower too.

And actually, I think most human/oid characters' power levels are up to debate.

Good list.

Post Edited:2007-05-13 14:39:37

Actually, Silver Surfer should probably be around tier 11 or so now that he's once again Galactus' herald.

for the person who was asking about the one above all he/she/it is the most powerful being in the universe the divine creator, to put it simply "god" the heart of the universe is the most powerful artifact in the marvel universe anyone who posses it will be able to control all aspects of the universe thanos of titan is the only one who can absorb the heart of the universe because of his body being able to absorb high levels of energy and so he does so and beats the "great powers of the universe" which consist of death/eternity/galactus/the celestials/infinity/oblivion and also beats the living tribunal but its unclear if the living tribunal that thanos defeats is himself or just a mere avatar so the living tribunal may still be more powerful than the heart of the universe

shatteredKatana says:

"for the person who was asking about the one above all he/she/it is the most powerful being in the universe the divine creator, to put it simply "god" the heart of the universe is the most powerful artifact in the marvel universe anyone who posses it will be able to control all aspects of the universe thanos of titan is the only one who can absorb the heart of the universe because of his body being able to absorb high levels of energy and so he does so and beats the "great powers of the universe" which consist of death/eternity/galactus/the celestials/infinity/oblivion and also beats the living tribunal but its unclear if the living tribunal that thanos defeats is himself or just a mere avatar so the living tribunal may still be more powerful than the heart of the universe"

Yes, the case is building......

shatteredKatana says:

"for the person who was asking about the one above all he/she/it is the most powerful being in the universe the divine creator, to put it simply "god" the heart of the universe is the most powerful artifact in the marvel universe anyone who posses it will be able to control all aspects of the universe thanos of titan is the only one who can absorb the heart of the universe because of his body being able to absorb high levels of energy and so he does so and beats the "great powers of the universe" which consist of death/eternity/galactus/the celestials/infinity/oblivion and also beats the living tribunal but its unclear if the living tribunal that thanos defeats is himself or just a mere avatar so the living tribunal may still be more powerful than the heart of the universe "

This list does NOT rank cosmic artifacts, especially those that elevate characters that are already riduculously powerful to truly ludicrous levels.

You certainly are selling 'The Heart of the Universe', do have stock in it or what?

Daddy likes list.

Bump* thought it might be a useful reminder

I'd rank Alien Entity up with Eternity and Sise-Neg near the Living Tribunal.

Why is Lobo second tier?

That's a long list. Nice.

It's more on the Marvel side, since no Monitors or Anti Monitors or the Spectre were put on the list. But a great list though.

Where's Hulk? Why isn't Adult Franklin Richards mentioned...

Awesome. Kinda wish there was a more accurate DC intelligence scale though. Anyone know where I could find one? As a huge DC fan it would really be appreciated.

@buckshot: hey i didnt see deadpool on the list now maybe i missed him good lord knows thats possible but id put him at hight street level to mid street level right

I'm just curious why The Doctor is on the DC list.