Marvel Cinematic Universe Black Widow Goes Through The Live Action Street Tier Gauntlet for CW's Arrowverse

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  • Random encounter
  • Gets fully rested after each round
  • Morals off
  • Nat has her usual standard gear for these fights
  • Opponents in thus gauntlet will be armed with standard gear
  • In character but morals off
  • Close Quarters combat - Fight takes place in a 8x8 prison cell

Rounds

  1. Curtis Holt
  2. Rene Ramirez
  3. Dinah Drake
  4. Ricardo Diaz
  5. John Diggle
  6. Emiko Queen
  7. Sara Lance
  8. Mick Rory
  9. Oliver Queen
  10. Ra's Al Ghul
  11. Vandal Savage
  12. Cicada II

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Loses 2

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Doesn't get far

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People don’t think her Bite will get her very far?

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People don’t think her Bite will get her very far?

It's 2 telegraphed plus she doesn't use it right away for the most part, plus the size of that room means the likelihood of that actually being able to be used is very doubtful

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I say stops at 7 or 9.

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@professorrespect: ... What?

How is it telegraphed? She literally just jams her fists into guys and shocks them. What does the size of the room have to do with anything? Using them wouldn’t be any different than throwing a punch, so it’s hardly unaffected by the size of the room. If she’s in a fight for her life in a room that small, she’ll break them out sooner rather than later.

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@stormdriven: Nah man if she did that to anything who is even a bit skilled, then they'll notice it before she does it, the whole thing lights up and it's pretty loud as well

Anyone here with some skill can overpower her and just beat her up

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@professorrespect: They only light up and make that sound when she activates them. And she only does that when they’re right on her target, not before. She’ll be able to catch people off guard. And wrestling with Chitauri means she won’t be overpowered as easily as you’re saying, the only time she’s really be overpowered is by Bucky, who’s massively more powerful than anyone here except for Cicada II, who’s too much bullshit for any street level character here.

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@stormdriven: She had space with Chitauri to move around, in small cell she will be beaten down with skilled blows

Bucky is trash and not on list

Plus she'll still have to have a hand free to use them in the first place, so anyone who can stop her from doing that can easily win here, Ramirez has the skill and power to deal with her before she even thinks about using clunky tech due to Oliver's training and experience in teaching him

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There's no way she ever beats Sara. Emiko is a toss up and John gives her trouble.

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@professorrespect: Define skilled blows. I could just as easily say she’ll do the same, so what difference is there?

Way to completely ignore the point.

They’re on both wrists, even if she doesn’t “have a hand free,” she luckily has another hand to use. You act like Rene is smart enough to figure out what Natasha’s bracers do. He isn’t. Given the way he fights, he’ll be the most likely one to get dropped by the Bites.

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@stormdriven: Nah man, Rene's battle training has meant that he's been able to fight with pretty skilled guys in the past, Widow's just weaker physically in terms of weight, mass, and above all else height

His skilled blows will target the arms, he'll see the tech and know it is a problem, and as such he'll smash it with his knife as soon as possible

As well as that, he also has his gear here, so he's got body armour against her in a physical fight while she has no protection, he's got guns on him that he'll fire cuz he doesn't have morals, and if that doesn't work he's still got enough skill to deal with the likes of Diaz and Tobias Church, so Widow ain't gonna be a problem ere

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Stops at 11 most likely

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@professorrespect: Those things are an advantage, but she’s done pretty well against guys with similar advantages like Hawkeye and Ant-Man.

Why would he target the arms specifically, he has zero knowledge on her and her equipment. It’s not like he’ll take the time to analyze what the bracers are for and how they’re powered.

Rene isn’t going to use his guns while he’s that close. They’ll take too long to draw, and they’ll be cumbersome in that space in comparison to a melee weapon or his fists. Arrow characters always rush in to fight whenever there’s close proximity anyway.

Widow’s gotten around guys with body armor, so getting around it isn’t a foreign concept to her. When did Rene fight Diaz by himself? Also, I distinctly remember Rene getting his ass handed to him by Church both times they fought, so I don’t know where you got “deal with” from.

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How bad is it that she can stop at 1?

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People don’t think her Bite will get her very far?

Only because she isn't dealing with T Spheres.

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@stormdriven: Ant-Man has like, barely any sort of skill to speak of, and Hawkeye is....eh? He's not exactly amazing.

Her arms have these strange things on them that look funny and haven't been before, and during the fight she tries to reach over to them? That looks obvious af. He's gonna guess based on Oille's awareness and general training that she's got some sort of gimmick with them.

I mean, he's got the guns on him anyway, so he can fight with them or pull them out if needed during the fight or in a sticky position. No reason to not use them at all.

It's a pretty big advantage having that body armor on, she'll have to work twice as hard to work around it than without. He didn't beat Church, but he did manage to fight him for a good bit and even Church himself was decently impressed by the strikes he got on him. Could Widow do better in his situation? Not likely.

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Good luck putting down Rene with bites.

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@rbt said:

Good luck putting down Rene with bites.

Black panther's tanked way more then that

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@kevd4wg: Yeah and Black Panther's got better stats than her

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@kevd4wg: BP has tanked electric attacks?

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@kevd4wg said:
@rbt said:

Good luck putting down Rene with bites.

Black panther's tanked way more then that

T'Challa was wearing a conductor though.

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@kevd4wg: Kevlar is also a great insulator.

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@kevd4wg: Yeah and Black Panther's got better stats than her

But he got wrecked by the Taser

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@kevd4wg: BP has tanked electric attacks?

He's tanked more powerful energy, it's not like electrical is a hax or anything

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@rbt said:

Good luck putting down Rene with bites.

Black panther's tanked way more then that

T'Challa was wearing a conductor though.

Rene's face is covered with a Conductor now, with morals off no reason not to aim there

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@kevd4wg: No one cares about the Taser, she sucks and it's never going to work on a guy like Rene

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@kevd4wg: No one cares about the Taser, she sucks and it's never going to work on a guy like Rene

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@kevd4wg: I don't know what Rene's mask is made out of but if it's plastic then it would be more of an insulator. Also Rene wouldn't just let Nat aim at his face he's going to be in action as well in which he could just aim dodge or just engage her with his guns.

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@professorrespect said:

@kevd4wg: ANTHP, is that you?

How did you know

@kevd4wg: I don't know what Rene's mask is made out of but if it's plastic then it would be more of an insulator. Also Rene wouldn't just let Nat aim at his face he's going to be in action as well in which he could just aim dodge or just engage her with his guns.

I mean, she could just shoot him

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@professorrespect: You brought up size advantage, which Scott has, as well as the ability to shrink which she was able to work around. I’d still favor Clint over Rene, Rene isn’t exactly impressive himself.

Reach over to them? She literally just hits a button on the same hand to activate them. Seriously? How is he going to be able to tell in that short of a time frame in that close of a fight? More than likely he’ll focus on her guns and her batons before her bracelets.

Something Natasha can easily do as well, your point?

I’m supposed to be impressed by a couple ineffectual hits that Rene got in before getting dropped by an awkward body slam? He got destroyed, that isn’t impressive. It wouldn’t matter if Widow can do better, she doesn’t have to fight Church. She just has to beat Rene.

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@kevd4wg:

He's tanked more powerful energy, it's not like electrical is a hax or anything

Of course it is...

Concussive force isn't why electricity slows you down or knocks you out or worse. Its because it directly affects muscles and internal organs and pretty much causes them to go into overdrive. And it can affect central nervous system. Electricity is one of a kind attack.

Rene's face is covered with a Conductor now, with morals off no reason not to aim there

Why would it be metal? He's never used metal before. He literally had a fiber hockey mask. And I'm pretty sure he has gone back to using his old suit anyway.

Regardless, how does Nat get past Curtis?

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@stormdriven:

They’ll take too long to draw, and they’ll be cumbersome in that space in comparison to a melee weapon or his fists.

Rene pulled his guns out and shot down three people before Sampson could even get his gun out. He's pretty quick at the draw. And Sampson had started drawing his gun before Rene.

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Stops at 7, 9, or 10

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rene gets her

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Maybe stops at 11. Stomps pretty much everyone before that.