Marvel brain versus DC brain

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#1  Edited By xdm

A cosmic entity (Beyonder like) wants destroy one of these two universe and organizes a fight.
 
The Leader, Mandarin and Dr Doom have one month to improve Ultron (Golden age).

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Luthor, Hector Hammond and Mr Terrific have one month to improve Cyborg Superman aka Hank Henshaw (without ring).
 
The Battle is between Ultron and Cyborg Superman.
The winner saves his team and his universe.
 
Which team will win and why ?
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#2  Edited By Sexy Merc

This is a cool battle.

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#3  Edited By TheBatman586

Team DC.
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#4  Edited By CosmicSpiral

I would put my money on Ultron just because Doom's expertise goes beyond technology. 

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#5  Edited By hdorman1

marvel 

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#6  Edited By iLLituracy

Wait, what's Golden Age Ultron...? Ultron isn't a Golden Age character. Do you mean classic?

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#8  Edited By tim2081

I think it would be a stalemate, I don't think either can be destroyed. The first to have their body destroyed would be Cyborg Superman, because Ultron would have a significant amount of magic built in.

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#9  Edited By Gylan Thomas
@iLLituracy said:
" Wait, what's Golden Age Ultron...? Ultron isn't a Golden Age character. Do you mean classic? "
Yeah.
What's golden age Ultron.
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#10  Edited By xdm

Yes classic (Hank Pym Time...no Phalanx and co...just adamantium well hard)

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#11  Edited By Deadcool

Damn...Well
Doom is not just a scientist, he is also a sorcerer and we all know that Magic > Science, then it would be Ultron with fucken MAGIC

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#12  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

How can you improve perfection? 

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#13  Edited By ckal
@Sexy Merc said:
" This is a cool battle. "
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#14  Edited By Deadcool
@Son_of_Magnus: 
DOOM
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#15  Edited By cagane

Marvel team. They have Doom.

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#16  Edited By jojjimbo

Marvel.

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#17  Edited By charlieboy

marvel because of doom.
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#18  Edited By GT-Man

Marvel has some heavy thinkers Marvel wins

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#19  Edited By Dracade102

I REALLY want to Side with Doom... But, since he isn't on the Battle Field, Team DC wins.

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#20  Edited By TheCerealKillz

Now, Im not getting it.
 
 
You have Dc BRAINS.
 
WITHOUT BRAINIAC?

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#21  Edited By The Mango
@TheCerealKillz said:
" Now, Im not getting it.   You have Dc BRAINS.  WITHOUT BRAINIAC? "
Well they don't have Richards either.
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#22  Edited By difficlus

Gotta go with Doom...

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#23  Edited By xdm

Firstly I don't like Richards.
Doom is a nemesis. We lose a genius (Richards) for a genius (Doom).
 
Richards and Doom in the same team...it's unfair for DC world.
 
BRAINIAC ?
 
Look the list...Leader, Mandarin, Doom, Luthor, Terrific,and Hammond...they seem all human at the beginning...Not Brainiac.
 
Which human is smarter and not in this list ? Maybe Tony Stark, Hank Pym,...And for DC ? Ozymandias...
 
Nevertheless
When we look replies...it seem done.
 
Marvel wins because Doom.
 
Or not ?

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#24  Edited By AtPhantom

So why is Hammond here? His power is telepathy. He's not a super scientist. All he would do is annoy the rest with his issues while they devised their strategy, and would probably get his head stomped by Cyborg sooner or later. Major weak link.

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#25  Edited By xdm

Hammond doesn't fight. He had to improve Cyborg.
 
Why ?
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyborg
"Cyborg is a being with both biological and artificial parts"
 
 http://www.comicvine.com/cyborg-superman/29-12926/
"Hank Henshaw has exhibited heat vision". It's possible to assume that some part of his head is biological...some part of his brain...some part of his mind.
Hammond could improve this mind (biological part) in order to avoid psionic blast.
 
In fact we could assume that Marvel team would hit  biological part of Cyborg.  
It's not the case with Ultron...it's a machine. So just few engineer in the team.
 
It's just an assumption. Maybe you are right ?

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#26  Edited By kitsuneconundrum

depends on who is able to assimilate who first.

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#27  Edited By AtPhantom

 Hammond could improve this mind (biological part) in order to avoid psionic blast.  

How? Never mind that Henshaw has exhibited telepathy himself, what is Hammond going to do? He's not a biologist. He doesn't know how to do anything with biology. He can't improve anything through telepathy. He's completely useless in the fight.
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#28  Edited By xdm

It's not biology. 
It's psionic shield.
Like Pr X and Dark phoenix.
 
 http://marvel.wikia.com/Charles_Xavier_%28Earth-616%29
 Psionic Shield: ability to erect a psychic shield for protection of himself and of other minds. 
 
Hammon and Xavier are good in telepathy.
 http://www.comicvine.com/forums/battles/7/dc-vs-marvel-war-of-the-psychics/542227/ 
We could assume that Hammond could do psionic shield.
 
Some parts of Cyborg are cloned from Superman.
Superman is vulnerable to psionics.
 
http://www.quora.com/Which-superheroes-can-defeat-Superman
 
Assumption: Cyborg is vulnerable to psionics.
Protection: Psionic shield from Hammond.
 
One fact is sure.
Ultron = Automaton (no biological part)
Henshaw = Cyborg (biological part)
 
If Cyborg has a part of superman's brain...
You could improve it with psionic shield.

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#29  Edited By beatboks1
@TheCerealKillz said:
" Now, Im not getting it.   You have Dc BRAINS.  WITHOUT BRAINIAC? "
And it's not like there's a shortage of Brainiacs to choose from. Plus marvel brains WITH NOOOO REED !!!!!
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#30  Edited By AtPhantom
@xdm said:
"We could assume that Hammond could do psionic shield. "
No we couldn't. He's never done it. You're making an awful lot of assumptions and no real facts. There is also no evidence that Cyborg is weak to telepathy. He may be part cloned from Superman, but he's an entirely different creature than him.
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#31  Edited By xdm

" He may be part cloned from Superman, but he's an entirely different creature than him."
 
So different that : "He has already removed his Kryptonite weakness"
 
 http://www.comicvine.com/cyborg-superman/29-12926/ 

How can he have kryptonite weakness (from Superman) and no psionic weakness ?
He choses at the birth ?
 
I'm kidding. 
 
If you clones (copy) it...you have strengh and weakness (as Amazo in the cartoon).

Don't worry it's just a question of point of view.
 
And if you don't like Hammond...
You can swap it in the list by Ozymandias (more engineer) ;-)

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#32  Edited By darkking

dc indeed
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#33  Edited By GamorasBigDaddy

I go with DC team
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#34  Edited By karrob
@jojjimbo said:
" Marvel. "
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#35  Edited By darkrein
@AtPhantom said:

" So why is Hammond here? His power is telepathy. He's not a super scientist. All he would do is annoy the rest with his issues while they devised their strategy, and would probably get his head stomped by Cyborg sooner or later. Major weak link. "

Mind link like Prof X does to improve cooperation?
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#36  Edited By AtPhantom
@xdm said:
"How can he have kryptonite weakness (from Superman) and no psionic weakness ? He choses at the birth ?   "
No, the writers choose for him. Okay, he has kryptonite weakness. Does he have red sunlight weakness? No. Magic weakness? No. Can he be killed? No. He has tons of different abilities than Superman, so you can't just assume based off of what Superman can do. Amazo is Amazo. He follows his own set rules. Rules which do not apply to Cyborg.
 
@darkrein said:
" Mind link like Prof X does to improve cooperation? "
Maybe, if we ever actually saw him do that before...
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#37  Edited By darkrein
@AtPhantom: Who prof x or hammond? I was just taking a guess for hammond, i could probably find scans for x doing it.
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#38  Edited By AtPhantom
@darkrein said:
" @AtPhantom: Who prof x or hammond? I was just taking a guess for hammond, i could probably find scans for x doing it. "
Hammond. I know Prof X can do it.