Marvel Ares VS DC Ares

You keep telling yourself that Bendis is just some bad writer, but he put a major hand in every event in the last 5 years, and Avengers has been the big title for ever. you know how when people start up a team book and are told they arent allowed to use a character? well that decision is usually made based on the fact that someone bigger has bigger plans for them.  Bendis has been that bigger guy. You give me someone who he hasnt shaped in the past few years, and more than likely, using SI, CW, or Siege, i'll show you how your wrong.

" DC Ares easily wins in a fight IMO. But Marvel Ares is a lot more run to read, also IMO. "

of course you dont. we were talking about how powerful Sentry was, and you brought up the fight. Problem is, the fight doesnt depower sentry in any way. Sentry won, but for the sake of story he coulnt win, so the compromise was the obvious fight with a twist ending. That story does more to remind us that tony Stark went from a self destructive genius for all those decades to a tech Bruce Wayne.  
 and whats Sentry's major flaw? that he's passive? The Hulks major flaw is he can be stopped by a small child with a balloon to give. doesnt make him any weaker, and when the story doesnt stop him he wins with that strength. i see no difference.  and if you do your once again proving that your opinion changes with your arguments, something i already knew about you. what i "dug up" (seriously the third thing on the first page of my 'ironman vs sentry' google search) was just to show that...wait, lets use your words: 
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Why is this still going on?!?!?!?!

" Why is this still going on?!?!?!?! "

" @Vance Astro:In which series did Iron Man and Sentry fought, the second time around? I'd like to see that. "

" @Yaujtapool:  I actually only think there is one person saying Marvel Ares wins but I have not read the entire thing because the winner is obvious.  "

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Vance Astro:In which series did Iron Man and Sentry fought, the second time around? I'd like to see that. "

I don't remember what it was.I just remember that Iron Man had blonde hair because he had died it because he was trying to look like Steve for some reason.Their first fight was before Civil War though..that's how you can tell there is two.Morph it might be in Mighty Avengers,World War Hulk,Initiative...I don't know. "

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Vance Astro:In which series did Iron Man and Sentry fought, the second time around? I'd like to see that. "

I don't remember what it was.I just remember that Iron Man had blonde hair because he had died it because he was trying to look like Steve for some reason.Their first fight was before Civil War though..that's how you can tell there is two.Morph it might be in Mighty Avengers,World War Hulk,Initiative...I don't know. "

Nah, I remember the first one you speak of. It was during Execute Program, and Iron Man was a fugitive, hence the blond hair. That was the one Iron Man won. 

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Vance Astro said:

" @Morpheus_ said:

" @Vance Astro:In which series did Iron Man and Sentry fought, the second time around? I'd like to see that. "

I don't remember what it was.I just remember that Iron Man had blonde hair because he had died it because he was trying to look like Steve for some reason.Their first fight was before Civil War though..that's how you can tell there is two.Morph it might be in Mighty Avengers,World War Hulk,Initiative...I don't know. "

Nah, I remember the first one you speak of. It was during Execute Program, and Iron Man was a fugitive, hence the blond hair. That was the one Iron Man won. 

 I get my books crossed some time.Do the Mighty Avengers have any annuals? "

"I know what you were talking about but you just played yourself AGAIN. The problem is you're saying that the fight doesn't depower Sentry when in fact it did.Which is how Iron Man beat Sentry.Maybe you should actually read the comics rather than pulling up posts from a year ago.  You know what Sentry's major flaw is.I've told you this a million times.He's mentally unstable and his powers are linked to that stability.

dc ares wins 

" @Vance Astro said:

"I know what you were talking about but you just played yourself AGAIN. The problem is you're saying that the fight doesn't depower Sentry when in fact it did.Which is how Iron Man beat Sentry.Maybe you should actually read the comics rather than pulling up posts from a year ago.  You know what Sentry's major flaw is.I've told you this a million times.He's mentally unstable and his powers are linked to that stability.

The Hulk can be turned into a 120 pound nerd if your nice to him. Ironman is pointless in an EMP. Superman has no use when surrounded in kryptonite. batman needs air to breath.  While all these things are ways to depower and kill these heroes, THEY HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR POWER LEVEL. They are not any weaker becuase of these things, they are just points to be exploited. You have been arguing to me for months now that Sentry isnt strong because sometimes people exploit his mental stability.But does that make him lift less? Slower? less invincible?    I dont care that Sentry has a weakness. My point is and has always been that he is the strongest hero in the marvel universe.  we weren't having a depowerment discussion. Batman has beaten darkseid. You dont throw that into the discussions, because it was win by ultimatum, let me go or i blow up your planet. Dakrseid still has all the powers and skill to destroy batman. have at thyself. but use thy sock or something.... "

" My point is and has always been that he is the strongest hero in the marvel universe. 

" @Grim said:

" My point is and has always been that he is the strongest hero in the marvel universe. 

Blue Marvel is his peer, though... So, Sentry isn't the strongest. "

"lol. "

Still DC Ares. 

"DC Ares with a simple hand wave "

" @Static Shock: Yeah, he is a match for Sentry. He's made up of antimatter, which is far more powerful than matter. Besides, Sentry's still a head case, which is his Achilles heel. Well, actually, considering these are superheroes we're talking about, and since he was originally based on SuperMan, I should probably say his kryptonite. But, anyway. You know, I was thinking. If Wonder Woman could get her lasso around Sentry, she could beat him. The difficulty will be in actually pulling that off. He can fly at speeds that SuperMan can fly; so, unless she reaches light speed flight, he is faster than she is. But, if she did, he's screwed. She can induce an illusion that would screw around with his head. Maybe an illusion of the Void. Or, she could just make him see the truth about who he is. Because, seriously, nobody even knows who the heck he is. The writers don't even know who he is, because his story keeps changing. So, she'd be able to beat him, but she would have to get her lasso around him. Otherwise, I think Sentry will probably win, considering they're giving him like every power known to comics.  "

" @CosmicSpiral: She can? I've only known her to move at escape velocities (which is still fast). I mean, I know she's kept up with Flashes, but there's no guarantee that they were moving at top speed. Sentry did fly to the moon in a few seconds, and he's flown to the sun. So, I think he has moved at light speed. I mean, I could be wrong, but they have been making Sentry overly powerful lately. He's been able to beat Thor. I'm kinda waiting for Silver Surfer to show up and take it to Sentry. Although, if Sentry can beat Thor, he might be able to do the same with Surfer. Thor fans and Surfer fans will disagree, but based on their feats and powers, I think they're about the same. What are your thoughts? "

" @CosmicSpiral: Well, that's true; he did get a power upgrade. But still, Thor does have a lot of feats under his belt too. He's destroyed entire planets with his punches. Plus, if he used his God Blast, I think Surfer's screwed. The only problem with that is that Thor doesn't really use that too much. I'm not the biggest Thor or Surfer fan. I like them both, but they're not my favorite superheroes. So, I'm able to be kinda neutral when it comes them. I don't consider myself the living encyclopedia on either one, but I do know plenty about each character. But, anyway. You may very well be right.  "

" @CosmicSpiral: Could he? Would transmutation work on Thor? Wait, can't Thor transmute things with Mjolnir?   "

" @CosmicSpiral: She can? I've only known her to move at escape velocities (which is still fast). I mean, I know she's kept up with Flashes, but there's no guarantee that they were moving at top speed.

" @Static Shock: OK. Well, then Surfer probably could beat Thor. I hope that comment doesn't piss off the Thor fans here. I don't need some sort of online angry mob after me. "

" @CosmicSpiral: Could he? Would transmutation work on Thor? Wait, can't Thor transmute things with Mjolnir?   "

Both of them can transmute things. I don't recall Thor doing it very recently, and I'm a big Thor fan. Surfer could alter his genetic structure at the sub-atomic level if he was really serious. "

"@icecream1991 said:

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WHy?????? 
 
GIVE ME REASONS WHy DC aRES IS MORE POWERFUL PLZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!! "

Firstly he has shown to be of at least similar strength to Wonder Woman, who is vastly stronger and faster than Marvels Ares. Secondly he has significant matter / energy / reality manipulation powers. "

" @CosmicSpiral said: 

Both of them can transmute things. I don't recall Thor doing it very recently, and I'm a big Thor fan. Surfer could alter his genetic structure at the sub-atomic level if he was really serious. "

Are you trying to say that Surfer could shape-shift? Or that he could just turn his own molecules into some other element (a more durable element, maybe)? Although, why would Surfer need to affect his own molecules? He's already extremely durable as is. Or is affecting his molecules the way he becomes intangible? (Sorry to ask so many questions at once.)  "

"@Silver2467 said:

" @Static Shock: OK. Well, then Surfer probably could beat Thor. I hope that comment doesn't piss off the Thor fans here. I don't need some sort of online angry mob after me. "

Current Silver Surfer should be able to take out Thor after a decent fight, and that's coming from the biggest Thor fan on the entire site (with the exception of Fresh Prince). "

" @Static Shock: Wow. I didn't expect scans. Thanks for that. That's cool. I'll have to edit Wonder Woman's page then. What comic is that from, by the way? "

"@The Mjolnir Wielder said:

"@Silver2467 said:

" @Static Shock: OK. Well, then Surfer probably could beat Thor. I hope that comment doesn't piss off the Thor fans here. I don't need some sort of online angry mob after me. "

Current Silver Surfer should be able to take out Thor after a decent fight, and that's coming from the biggest Thor fan on the entire site (with the exception of Fresh Prince). "

Thor still has the Odin Force inside the hammer. "