Martian Manhunter Vs. Thor, Iron Man

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No prep

Takes place in NYC

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KO or Death

Standard feats and attributes

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Manhunter mindrapes them both and causes Thor to kill Tony then himself.

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J'onn.

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This is pretty much Martain Manhunter vs Thor; Iron man is pretty much a non-factor.

MMH probably wins.

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Manhunter stomps

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Martian Manhunter.

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MMH wins quite handily.

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#8  Edited By Fablehaven

Thor.

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MMH.

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Manhunter wins easily

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#11  Edited By Vertigo-

Manhunter takes control of Thor, then has him beat Iron man for him

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MMH solos the avengers 9/10

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MMH. Tony has some handy counters to his hax but it doesn't really matter because J'onn can just punch the crap out of him lol.

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#14  Edited By Batvibe12

MMH.

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Manhunter unless thor can hold him long enough 4 tony 2 find a way 2 take him down

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#17  Edited By tj849

MM mind rapes Thor and blitzes stark. The end.

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@blackestnight93: Stark has AoE psychic dampeners (even since the classic days) and he can last long enough against Thor for him to activate them (given he's done it countless occasions).

However that doesn't stop Stark from getting three shot while MMH wails on Thor.

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MMH.

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Manhunter, not really up for debate.

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MMh freaking solos lol

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Jonn one shots Iron Man who's useless and TP's Thor

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if there was prep ironman would solo. but there isn't so team gets stomped

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This is basically between Thor and J'onn. Iron Man offers nothing to this fight.

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MMH

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#28  Edited By patrat18

This is basically between Thor and J'onn. Iron Man offers nothing to this fight.

Not true. Tony provides the funds for his funeral

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#29  Edited By bowlt_swagg_320

Manhunter stomps

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@blackestnight93: Stark has AoE psychic dampeners (even since the classic days) and he can last long enough against Thor for him to activate them (given he's done it countless occasions).

However that doesn't stop Stark from getting three shot while MMH wails on Thor.

Thor has also stated that he's always held back against Iron Man.

Morals Off Thor would stomp Tony.

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MMH is getting a bit wanked here. He wins, but not as much as it's made out to be.

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@jay_z94: That wasn't the discussion, however even a mind controlled Thor had an extended fight with Iron Man.

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@jay_z94: That wasn't the discussion, however even a mind controlled Thor had an extended fight with Iron Man.

Well it is part of the discussion in the sense that John can take control of Thor and have him attack Tony.

Can you show me please?

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@jay_z94 said:
@supremegeneration said:

@jay_z94: That wasn't the discussion, however even a mind controlled Thor had an extended fight with Iron Man.

Well it is part of the discussion in the sense that John can take control of Thor and have him attack Tony.

Can you show me please?

And again, Tony has AoE telepathic dampeners/nullifiers.

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Extended was probably the wrong word, but he still held his own. I believe there's another fight in which a mind controlled Thor had issues with an Iron Man who had no energy left or something like that.

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This is pretty much Martain Manhunter vs Thor; Iron man is pretty much a non-factor.

MMH probably wins.

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@jay_z94 said:
@supremegeneration said:

@jay_z94: That wasn't the discussion, however even a mind controlled Thor had an extended fight with Iron Man.

Well it is part of the discussion in the sense that John can take control of Thor and have him attack Tony.

Can you show me please?

And again, Tony has AoE telepathic dampeners/nullifiers.

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Extended was probably the wrong word, but he still held his own. I believe there's another fight in which a mind controlled Thor had issues with an Iron Man who had no energy left or something like that.

Thanks for the scans.

I suppose Iron Man might be able to hold his own for some time. But if his psychic dampeners don't work on MMH, he is pretty much dead.

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Martian Manhunter enslaves Thor, considering how inconsistently his telepathic resistant feat lies. Even Professor Xavier was able to telepathically put the Avengers, including Thor, to sleep during that one arc. He just doesn't have the psionic resistances to shake off the mental prowess of the Martian Manhunter! By the time he even gains a fraction of his composure, he would have already laid waste to Iron Man!

Iron Man doesn't have the durability, strength, speed, or even combat speed to garner distractions against Martian Manhunter! He will eventually fall to the clutches of J'onn's hands too! Hell, J'onn's telekinesis is very powerful, so there isn't anything in his technological arsenal to protect himself.

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The wank on mmh is real in this thread.

Im gonna say thor and tony. Both can resist tp, and i believe thor can stall while tony comes up with a solution.

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Mmh

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I think thor and iron man are too much.

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@professorrespect sorry for leaving you hanging. Had a busy day yesterday and now the thread is locked. Don't think this one will be though.

@mister_surreal:

1. So we are just going to assume that Tony has TP resistance for all of his suits because he builds off of previous designs? Going off of that logic, all of Tony’s suits have used nanotechnology because his more recent suits were based off of older designs. That’s not how that works. At all. There is zero evidence outside of flawed logic that Tony has TP resistance within this armor. Get a scan that proves otherwise.

First of all, what's wrong with that logic? Do you think that he is going to throw away telepathic dampener technology in his older suits when he's making a new and improved one? What's the logic there? That's like saying "we don't know if his newer suit has repulsor rays or uni-beams unless it's shown". It's ridiculous. Second of all, after Tony upgraded his body with Extremis it was like his brain became a hard drive. When asked if he could have his memories, mind, and information in his head erased through psychics, he says that they cannot read a hard drive:

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As for this specific scenario with Thor on his side, he can even dampen planetary level telepathy so that Thor isn't fighting against his ally:

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4. Yeah, and MM is consistently shown to be a Superman tier character that can trade blows and defeat with multiple characters far out of Tony’s weight. Namely, Pre-52 Wonder Woman and Superman. Feats that put Tony in that tier?

Tony is durable enough to hang with high tiers, but he doesn't have anywhere near the offensive output to put them down. At best, all he can ever do is hurt them and even then sometimes he's inconsistently portrayed as having his attacks no-sold by high tiers. However, given MMH's weakness and Iron Man's proclivity to using heat based attacks, he might have a chance. Since we're talking about Extremis Iron Man, I'll just limit the durability feats to that armor:

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This was Odin Force Thor, by the way. He was clearly pissed off. He wasn't trying to kill Tony, but Stark noticed that he was hitting harder than he usually ever did and comments on how he had been "working out".
Hercules slams a gas truck on Iron Man which causes an explosion. He's then seen hitting Tony around in order to keep him busy so they can escape.
Hercules slams a gas truck on Iron Man which causes an explosion. He's then seen hitting Tony around in order to keep him busy so they can escape.

He also tanks a few hits from the Collective (who had the collective energies of all the mutants and X-Men on Earth and was capable of trading blows with and incapacitating Sentry):

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In a recent comic he was shown to be durable enough to trade blows with and last against a being that was half Vision and half Wonder Man:

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I left this one for last because it shows what happens when his repulsors and strength don't cut it against a more powerful opponent. He decides to use a specialized attack to target their weaknesses which is something he can do to J'onn too.

Edit: I would also like a canonical scan of this suit using fire based weaponary.

He has used them since his first armor, but he even had them in other suits too:

This was obviously his first armor.
This was obviously his first armor.
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He's actually been in a scenario where he was going up against an opponent too durable to affect with his standard weaponry and decided to fire everything at once with 100% intensity:

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...one of which was the flamethrower. So again, he's been shown to use other versatile methods of attack if his opponent is not going down at all. I've got plenty of other examples of Iron Man fighting opponents and then changing to versatile weaponry because his strength or repulsors weren't cutting it too, so this isn't some sort of outlier. It happens a lot and I can give more examples if you want.

Also, does MMH have a specific weakness to flames/fire? Or is it heat in general? Because Tony's uni-beam has blasted with hotter than the surface of the sun temperatures, his repulsors melt through steel like butter, and he's got incendiary cluster bombs/kiloton missiles at his disposal as well which can produce a high amount of heat and fire.

So basically, I can understand why Stalin-Is-Steel was arguing that Iron Man had a chance. If MMH still has fire as a weakness, Tony can definitely win due to his versatility, tactical mind, durability, and telepathic immunity. I have heard conflicting reports about MMH's fire weakness though which is why I didn't really comment in the other thread about how Tony could win. He can't win without exploiting that weakness if it still exists.

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MMH even without mind powers. just solid punch and done or tk strike or his high dimensional matter manipulation

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Lol DC fanbase is silly as can be...Thor fan solo high difficulty...Jonn can win too depending..This auto mind rape is funny Given Jonn don't n Character...Iron Man offers distraction while Thor with supior striking wails on Jonnnis ad likely as any

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Lol DC fanbase is silly as can be...

The fact DC has way more overpowered character this is unfortunately truth

Thor fan solo high difficulty...

Could but J'onn outclasses him in all categories speed, strenght, versatility, haxes, power tier. Thor is only much more prone fight fight and combat but J'onn has zero moral code.

Jonn can win too depending..This auto mind rape is funny

because can combat easily boundless beings like helping Zauriel, counter mind extraction, mindhax spectre even repel unbound spectre or mindhax old gods, without trying sense all mind in galaxy, mindtrack and capture Barry in speed force and many others

Given Jonn don't n Character...Iron Man offers distraction

THis guy won't be distraction because can have multiattention focus. Combat several members at once

while Thor with supior striking wails on Jonnnis ad likely as any

J'onn striking is far above Thor and J'onn has telekinesis to control motoric functions of Thor

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manhunter because of telepathy ironman can resist him but thor can't

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@noone1996: Great post.

To expand on J'onn's fire weakness, in Post Crisis it was established as a purely psychological weakness of himself due to his messy past on Mars (as well as the existence of the Burning Martians, which are the opposite of everything J'onn is as a person) and he eventually got over it, but also became Fernus as a result.

When he died in Final Crisis, he died to fire regardless, so it seems that he still had a general weakness to it.

In N52, it became a biological weakness, so he'd be hurt by it regardless of his mental state, etc

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#50  Edited By Noone1996

@comic_book_fan: He can disrupt telepathy to even help his allies.

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This even proves that he can take the punishment until he figures it out.