Martian Manhunter Vs The Avengers

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#101 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

Yeah...that's good cause I have no time for baiters. Not worth it. Clearly you're a troll so yeah...

I've done my research, doesn't alter my view, thanks I suggest you read the OP better next time and learn to respect other's views next time. Later.

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#102 Posted by IheartZombies92--defunct (2317 posts) - - Show Bio

Eh, with prep, I reckon the Avengers take it.

Iron Man has armors that can block telepathy and built a weapon that could give the Phoenix Force a headache, as well as some other pretty nifty toys. Thor is naturally immune to TP, and has resisted Phoenix Five Emma. Sentry (despite him being dead, kinda) would also be a heavy hitter. I reckon they could take it, but not before MM drops some of them first.

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#103 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@sog7dc said:

@czarny_samael666:

In what world can Stark, Pym, Vision, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man hope to defeat the Martian? Not to mention the others you listed MMH gives te fight of their lives. Posts like this make you look like a fanboy and not an informed debater.

Lol, OP gived Avengers prep man...

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#104 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio
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#105 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

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#106 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

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#107 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

It is not, because Earth scientists regulary does that. Even when Osborn was threatening Molecule Man and Sentry, he mentioned Richards and Stark. T'Challa isn't much behind them and he has access to magic.

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#108 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666: Martian Manhunter still has too many powers to his disposal.

Doesn't matter. Prep for people like Iron Man or Black Panther meant building a weapons that can depowere Tesseract-Thanos and crash Phoenix Force into pieces.

Right. Thanos, who frequently does not even utilize his external abilities and crashing the Phoenix Force is not PIS? LOL.

It is not, because Earth scientists regularly does that. Even when Osborn was threatening Molecule Man and Sentry, he mentioned Richards and Stark. T'Challa isn't much behind them and he has access to magic.

If Earth's scientists regularly do it then how is it impressive? They are going to struggle with his speed and strength, let alone the vast amount of abilities he has, some of which they probably have not even encountered in a preparation time situation.

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#109 Posted by RocketStark (130 posts) - - Show Bio

Tony solos no diff

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#110 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

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#111 Posted by MagnusTheMagnificent (263 posts) - - Show Bio

The MMH/Spectre TP feat from JLA #35 is higly suspect, because he basically went in the back door that was Hal Jordan, you know, the HUMAN host of Spectre of the time.

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#112 Posted by robertloucksjr (2310 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor

Dr. Strange

Hulk

Sersi

Photon

Gilgamesh

Hyperion

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#113 Posted by the890guy (5 posts) - - Show Bio

Theis thread is a joke, MartianManhunter cannot hope to take out the entire avengers by himself... he is a strong individual but the avengers beat him in every way possible

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#114 Edited by Jacthripper (15021 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry am I the only one who remembers Martian getting stabbed with a flaming spear

They can just torch the entire place because Martian can't phase through flame and it weakens his tp

Hulk is already practically immune to it because of his mental condition

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#115 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

lol tony ain't soloing MMH The comments in here are rather amusing. Hulk ain't immune to TP and MMH has gotten past fire when he's had to. And besides, J'onn still has invisibility and intangibility so he can just phases through them and crush their hearts.

@frozen I agree, but sadly as usual MMH is underrated. Of course if this topic is every avenger vs. him then lame thread.

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#116 Posted by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

lol tony ain't soloing MMH The comments in here are rather amusing. Hulk ain't immune to TP and MMH has gotten past fire when he's had to.

@frozen I agree, but sadly as usual MMH is underrated. Of course if this topic is every avenger vs. him then lame thread.

Lol, they are amusing. I think Saren's respect thread nailed Martian's capabilities.

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#117 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

They have devices that makes them immune to TP. I told You that Stark already made such a device in AvX.

Moondragon is his level andwas a part of Avengers. Their machines overcome Emma's TP, which is comparable to Martian's.

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#118 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

How does it matter? They could have created weapon that put into pices beings that outclasses Martian. Thanos at his normal state is levels above him, let alone Phoenix Force. Iron Man already create anti-TP shields and used them in AvX. Intangibility isn't a problem, becuase Tony already created such a tech too.

He solos. BP solos by these magic frogs that bounds time and space. Pym create Ultron before. And Ultron stomps Manhunter. Strange cast spells that invade Martian soul. The same with Druid.

Defending him here is pointless.

Your post largely seems to ignore that many of the characters are not immune to TP, how could they create a device powerful enough for every team on The Avengers when he is far more powerful than any telepath they have faced? Perhaps only a few could defend from TP.

They have devices that makes them immune to TP. I told You that Stark already made such a device in AvX.

Moondragon is his level andwas a part of Avengers. Their machines overcome Emma's TP, which is comparable to Martian's.

For each of The Avengers? A device that The Martian has the speed and powers to destroy. Emma's TP is NOT comparable to Martian's.

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#119 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

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#120 Edited by Frozen (21137 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

John is the better telepath. He has used telepathy on Dr. Fate with the Helmet of Nabu and has resisted Mageddon's TP. John is above planetary level TP anyways.

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#121 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@frozen said:

@czarny_samael666 said:

@frozen:

It turns off TP on certain area, like Utopia.

Yes, it is.

John is the better telepath. He has used telepathy on Dr. Fate with the Helmet of Nabu and has resisted Mageddon's TP. John is above planetary level TP anyways.

1.I would like to read that issues.

2.What actually puts these two in planetary level TP-resistance (which would makes these feats so special)

3.Based on?

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#122 Edited by 0_Apocalypse_0 (102 posts) - - Show Bio

MM mindfucks all, end of story.

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#123 Posted by Jack_ (2451 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian Manhunter has a specific extremely exploitable weakness to fire. Doesn't it make sense that this exploitable weakness would be taken advantage of in some way by the Avengers? I'm sure that with prep they would take time to analyze Manhunter and come up with a way to use this weakness against him. Also, Iron man most likely still has those microscopic telepathic tasers from AvX. Wouldn't he at least try to use those against Manhunter?

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#124 Posted by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn has adapted and not been effected by fire when he's had to

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#125 Posted by ThEBeStOfTheBeST (12239 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn

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#126 Posted by militaryMan (737 posts) - - Show Bio

MMH

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#127 Posted by Fallingcliffs (5727 posts) - - Show Bio

Mmh

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#128 Edited by TheClassicIon (1398 posts) - - Show Bio

The New 52 Martian Manhunter is a team buster, he can win this, he mind rapes everyone at once, and he has intangibility, he's got this

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#129 Posted by Milliardo (928 posts) - - Show Bio

Ironman wears his Bleeding Plot Armor

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#130 Posted by micah007123 (10836 posts) - - Show Bio

Team. One word fire....

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#131 Edited by mikemaximum (1375 posts) - - Show Bio

She wins over MM.

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#132 Posted by adamTRMM (9546 posts) - - Show Bio

lol Manhunter gets obliterated.

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#133 Posted by utkanflash (2422 posts) - - Show Bio

Bloodlust MM= Fernus
Not Bloodlust but furious MM > Despero

Fernus and Despero > any 7 member of Avengers (in modern age of course)

But Avengers has a change with Thor,Doctor Strange and Sentry

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#135 Posted by Noone301994 (22169 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep the Avengers take it. Iron Man can counter MMH's telepathy and intangibility with prep and come up with some plot device to weaken him enough for the team to win.

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#136 Edited by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

characters with prep almost equal automatic victories

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#138 Posted by uugieboogie (13633 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep the Avengers take it. Iron Man can counter MMH's telepathy and intangibility with prep and come up with some plot device to weaken him enough for the team to win.

^^This & the fact Iron Man made the Phoenix Killer in how long again? & in that same Story Arc Thor KO'd the PF only if it was only for a few seconds. Can we get a Martian Killer or a Martian Buster? lmao

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#139 Edited by LightenUpWillYa (207 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron man with prep is bullshit in comics he gets to build anti everything somehow.

He will invent lots of PIS or WIS and win with 6 others.

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#140 Edited by KingOfKings1 (2092 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian

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#141 Posted by ariesxmasters (4886 posts) - - Show Bio

Depends on how Martian Manhunter fights. In short it depends on how he is written.

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#142 Posted by SodamYat (7907 posts) - - Show Bio

Prep almost always wins.

Prep battles are stupid.

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#143 Posted by darkseid1006 (4076 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep IronMan wins (maybe)

Without J'onn mindrapes them all...

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#144 Posted by Saint_Sophie (7263 posts) - - Show Bio

Wait, we get to chose 7 Avengers and give them 2 weeks of prep? Ain't this a little unfair?

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#146 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio
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Thor solos

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#147 Posted by The_Wotan (573 posts) - - Show Bio

Avengers with prep got this.

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#148 Edited by The_Wotan (573 posts) - - Show Bio

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Thor solos

How about adding the context about this specific instance, here let me help you here on this one. ^_^

This instance doesn't count as a low showing for Martian Manhunter, because of how his powers fundamentally work and how they apply in this instance. You see his strength and durability depend on the density level he chooses to be (think Vision, he can be durable as durable as an average metal scrap or he can become durable enough to tank blows from Thor, for example), basically his body doesn't operate at top levels of his durability and strength all the time, instead he needs to consciouslly choose so in order for that to happen, and in most of the cases he chooses himself to be slighlty above mid-tier category, thus this instance with Superboy is another showcase of MMH simply not using his powers to MAX, basically in simplified terms he held back his durability and strength. Hope i calrified this instance for you. :)

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#149 Posted by XLR87T3 (10282 posts) - - Show Bio

@the_wotan: Are you implying that Martian Manhunter chose to be almost killed by Superboy? Also,

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#150 Edited by The_Wotan (573 posts) - - Show Bio

@xlr87t3 said:

Are you implying that Martian Manhunter chose to be almost killed by Superboy? Also,

No, i am saying that Martian's powers on REGULAR basis don't operate at their full potential, since he simply holds back. He needs to CONSCIOUSLLY activate them at their MAX level, which didn't happen in any of the instances which you tried to present as some sort of implication of a low showing, which is factually wrong due to how Martian's powers work.

Essentially In both instances which you presented it is simply MMH who doesn't want to fight his opponent, which is clear as day for anyone who actually read those comics, thus MMH held back (which is a common trope in comics, and especially for MMH, who is a literal pacifist), and when MMH holds back, it also means lower amount of density, which as a conclusion can also mean lower amount of strength and durability, it's simplex logic really.