Martian Manhunter Vs The Avengers

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#51 Posted by pooty (16236 posts) - - Show Bio
  
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#53 Posted by beautifulrevery (1571 posts) - - Show Bio

8 members? With 2 weeks prep?

Tony Stark

Hank Pym

Hulk

Black Panther

Thor

Vision

Ms. Marvel

Spider Man

Spidey, Hank, and BP spend 2 weeks upgrading Vision. Stark upgrades his armor. Stark and Vision can stomp MM with 2 weeks to enhance their capabilities.

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#54 Edited by Raw_Material (3553 posts) - - Show Bio
@clark_el said:

Did you know it was a link to a my blog? If not click on it and you can here on what I have to say.

Had no idea..should emphasize that it is in the comment you posted it on..I thought it was a question..lol :P

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#55 Posted by spiderbuck1 (2768 posts) - - Show Bio

Team

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#56 Posted by WWQ7 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

If Martian Manhunter doesn't utilize his speed, Scarlet Witch can solo. I've heard MM doesn't have a weakness of fire anymore, so Wanda could throw a hex and make him weak again and then use a fire based attack on him. She made Jean Grey's telepathy backfire on her, so she could do the same to MM.

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#57 Edited by deactivated-5a5a76120d2ba (5989 posts) - - Show Bio

I will take:

Tony

Black Panther

Hank Pym

Bruce Banner (not hulk, just Banner)

Reed Richards (Yes, he has been an avenger before)

Amadeus Cho

and Dr. Strange

They do all the planning, they create all the defenses, and tech they will need and hand the device to...

Darkhawk.

Yeah you heard me. Chris Powel, Darkhawk. He simply hits the button. WIth all the countermeasures and defenses that will be in place it really should just be a "hit the button" situation.

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#58 Edited by dondave (41760 posts) - - Show Bio

@wwq7: That could work but in a recent issue of Uncanny Avengers Red Skull had no problem messing with her mind

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#59 Edited by Raw_Material (3553 posts) - - Show Bio

To make it more relevant to the Justice League battle against Martian Manhunter, I'm narrowing down the roster to only 7 members.

So, choose your 'Big Seven' wisely!

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#60 Posted by WWQ7 (484 posts) - - Show Bio

@dondave said:

@wwq7: That could work but in a recent issue of Uncanny Avengers Red Skull had no problem messing with her mind

I'm not sure if she is immune to telepathy or not, but I've heard Professor Xaiver and Emma Frost had trouble controlling her and if MM is trying his telepathy on one of Wanda's team mates, she will make it backfire on himself. His intangibility will also do him no good: Wanda will make him tangible again.

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#61 Posted by leonkarlen123 (8815 posts) - - Show Bio

Martian freeze Hawkeye, Captain America and Widow first then he go for the bigger threats. He just gets an Anti gamma radiation elixir and throw it on him then he snaps his neck and soon he throws Thor to the sun

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#62 Posted by Hulkman123 (1936 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep Avengers stomp

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#63 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

With prep Avengers stomp

seconded.

my team would be

Thor

Sentry

Scarlet witch

Wonder man

Reed Richards

Blue marvel(he is a new mighty avengers member)

Captain universe

my team murder stomps the martian.

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#64 Posted by Knightsofdarkness2 (8155 posts) - - Show Bio

Its either Thor or Manhunter, but Manhunter wins

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#65 Posted by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite thread.

People who solos, some with prep, some without it (from top of my head):

Stark, Sentry, Pym, Vision, OF Thor, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man, Void, Strange, Dr. Druid, Sersi, Quasar...

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#66 Posted by Dratini1331 (7916 posts) - - Show Bio

Spite thread.

People who solos, some with prep, some without it (from top of my head):

Stark, Sentry, Pym, Vision, OF Thor, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man, Void, Strange, Dr. Druid, Sersi, Quasar...

Void was part of the avengers? or are we just qualifying Sentry/Void as the same dude.

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#67 Posted by reaverlation (25960 posts) - - Show Bio

If only this was Pre 52 J'onzz as he's better than his New 52 counterpart. But with these rules now you can pick any 8 members with 2 week prep so yeah

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#68 Edited by czarny_samael666 (17185 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666 said:

Spite thread.

People who solos, some with prep, some without it (from top of my head):

Stark, Sentry, Pym, Vision, OF Thor, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man, Void, Strange, Dr. Druid, Sersi, Quasar...

Void was part of the avengers? or are we just qualifying Sentry/Void as the same dude.

When he was a part of Sentry's body - he was a part of Avengers. They both lived in one body.

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#71 Posted by The_New_Sentry (279 posts) - - Show Bio

There is one Avenger who could Match MM!! The Sentry could keep up with perhaps best MM's speed, match MM's strength, counter his shape shifting with matter manipulation, match the psionics with his own (are usually used to stable his mind but have proven to be powerful enough to mind wipe billions of people simultaneously including super heros and villains) even if MM did mind rape Sentry he'd bring our the Void and then he'd be dead, also the sentry is as invulnerable as Superman.

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#72 Posted by The_New_Sentry (279 posts) - - Show Bio

My other six members are

Hulk ( he has one of the highest mental resistances in marvel.)

Iron Man (So much prep could possibly make devices to resist MM mind rape)

Thor (is Thor)

Scarlet Witch (she might be able to make MM less powerful)

Hyperion (better faster stronger)

Wolverine (mental resist equal to hulk, unbreakable, enhanced strength, speed, and senses/reaction, those claws.)

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#73 Posted by SkyRobo1 (320 posts) - - Show Bio

Well my 7 would be

- Thor

- Sentry

- Captain Universe

- Blue Marvel

- Quasar

- Iron Man

- Captain America

(The last 2 are more for strategy and prepping the 5 heroes against MM)

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#74 Posted by those_eyes (17291 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll take captain America only. ....... he will solo.

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#75 Posted by boschePG (6325 posts) - - Show Bio

Iron Man

Hulk

Thor

Pym

Dr Strange

Wonder Man

Scarlet Witch

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#76 Edited by Erkan12 (9174 posts) - - Show Bio

Avengers stomps. Spite.

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#77 Posted by Simon_the_digger (7054 posts) - - Show Bio
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#78 Posted by loplopool (539 posts) - - Show Bio

........guys this is curbstomp agaisnt MM you can pick any 7 avengers who were ever avengers

Dr strange could arguably solo,

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#79 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

If you think this is a curbstomp against mmh, you obviously havent read much mmh.the guy has effected spectres mind who would so everyone here in seconds.

@simon_the_digger: yep. Mmh zaps their minds. Game over

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#80 Posted by DarthAznable (16928 posts) - - Show Bio

Prep wins this for Marvel. Darn you Tony!

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#81 Posted by green_skaar (12860 posts) - - Show Bio

Any 7 avengers with prep? Yeah I'd go Avengers all day every day. W/o prep, random encounter, in character and MM blood lust, now that's going to get ugly.

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#82 Posted by mjolnirson (2239 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor solos, Scarlet witch solos, Iron man with prep among thor... etc

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#83 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

The OP says bloodlusted MMH....he thinks and they die pretty much. And they're in character, where he isn't so yeah...he's given the JL problems(people far more powerful then the Avengers) that's NON bloodlusted....

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#85 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

If you think this is a curbstomp against mmh, you obviously havent read much mmh.the guy has effected spectres mind who would so everyone here in seconds.

@simon_the_digger: yep. Mmh zaps their minds. Game over

i think u need to read mmh comics before telling others to.

new 52 mmh didn't fight spectre.

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#86 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

Rules/Settings

  • Bloodlusted Martian Manhunter
  • The Avengers are In Character
  • All Members of the Avengers are In Play (Deceased, Retired, and Active)
  • Choose up to 7 members of the Avengers
  • 2 Week Prep Time for the Avengers
  • New Earth & Earth-616 Versions
  • Standard Gear
  • No BFR
  • Unpopulated Location
  • Fight Starts 50 Yards Away
  • Win via KO/Submission
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Who do you think will win and why? Please explain specifically if possible.

Alot of people aren't reading the op so i thought to post it in page 2 to help.

new 52 mmh vs earth 616 avengers.

any 7 members that were ever avengers.

and they have 2 weeks prep.

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#87 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

Sofia89,

I never said he fought the Spectre, I said he got into his mind....

I think you need to re-read the OP before posting. I have, perhaps you should read them? And who said anything about N52, when did I mention N52 exclusively, the OP doesn't? He fought the JL on occassions before that, you know that right as well as other powerful beings that again would solo everyone here, do you not know this? That being said, New 52 version has also been impressive. He mindwiped or read Cosmic beings such as the shadow lords, Despero, Jenny Quantum(reality warper) taken on the JL this is just n52, he's done more if you'd like I can link you to the MMH respect topic and you can see for yourself.

Pre-New 52 he's literally done crazier feats such as Spectre's mind, White Martians, he's linked minds together from ridiculous distances and read everyone's minds on earth/scanned the entire planet in seconds flat looking for his partner's killer....

It doesn't say anywhere in the OP "New 52"

Pre N52 feats

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/saren/blog/martian-manhunter-respect-thread/85677/

New 52 feats

http://www.comicvine.com/martian-manhunter/4005-2047/forums/new-52-martian-manhunter-respect-thread-670357/?page=1

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#88 Posted by Experio (18215 posts) - - Show Bio

Avengers. Easily. Even without prep.

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#89 Posted by Xaa (316 posts) - - Show Bio

J'onn wins!!!!

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#90 Posted by Spartan101 (4482 posts) - - Show Bio

2 weeks prep + stark is a stomp

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#91 Edited by SOG7dc (11368 posts) - - Show Bio

@czarny_samael666:

In what world can Stark, Pym, Vision, Black Panther, Superior Spider-Man hope to defeat the Martian? Not to mention the others you listed MMH gives te fight of their lives. Posts like this make you look like a fanboy and not an informed debater.

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#92 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

Sofia89,

I never said he fought the Spectre, I said he got into his mind....

ok,he didn't get inside the spectre's mind in n52.

I think you need to re-read the OP before posting. I have, perhaps you should read them? And who said anything about N52,

me and u,and the op.

when did I mention N52 exclusively,

well this fight includes n52 mmh,so mentioning a diff incarnation is just trolling.

the OP doesn't?

he did,i even posted a copy of the op.

He fought the JL on occassions before that, you know that right as well as other powerful beings that again would solo everyone here,

that whole line is filled with fanboyism,the op said pick 7,so what u are saying is mmh fough beings that can solo 7 avengers no matter who they are.

do you not know this? That being said, New 52 version has also been impressive. He mindwiped or read Cosmic beings such as the shadow lords, Despero, Jenny Quantum(reality warper) taken on the JL this is just n52, he's done more if you'd like I can link you to the MMH respect topic and you can see for yourself.

Pre-New 52 he's literally done crazier feats such as Spectre's mind, White Martians, he's linked minds together from ridiculous distances and read everyone's minds on earth/scanned the entire planet in seconds flat looking for his partner's killer....

It doesn't say anywhere in the OP "New 52"

reread the op again,actually here i will show u the part so u don't say there is nothing about it:

"

  • New Earth & Earth-616 Versions" this is exactly what the op said.

Pre N52 feats

http://www.comicvine.com/profile/saren/blog/martian-manhunter-respect-thread/85677/

New 52 feats

http://www.comicvine.com/martian-manhunter/4005-2047/forums/new-52-martian-manhunter-respect-thread-670357/?page=1

thanks for the links.

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#93 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

New Earth is not DCU, that's Marvel...you need to re-read the OP.

New 52 is the reference for current DC continuity....not "new Earth"

He did pre new 52(since the OP didn't mention "new 52")

The OP didn't mention N52 again...

Please quote me the OP saying "New 52" in his post. If you can't do that, just admit you're wrong.

Not really, just fact. Here's the photo I refer to...

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clearly shows he's given the rest of the JL a hard time, people like oh Flash, WW, Superman...guys who would one shot most if not everyone fighting MMH...

No where in the OP does it state "New 52 or Pre MMH" it just says "Bloodlusted MMH"

And he lists "New Earth & Earth 616 versions" implying those are the Marvel versions...

Rules/Settings

  • Bloodlusted Martian Manhunter
  • The Avengers are In Character
  • All Members of the Avengers are In Play (Deceased, Retired, and Active)
  • Choose up to 7 members of the Avengers
  • 2 Week Prep Time for the Avengers
  • New Earth & Earth-616 Versions
  • Standard Gear
  • No BFR
  • Unpopulated Location
  • Fight Starts 50 Yards Away
  • Win via KO/Submission

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#94 Edited by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

@vaeternus: and before u say you aren't being a fanboy think about this u said mmh beats whatever 7 being used

so how about i use

stark,beast,mr fantastic

i use the 2 weeks to get all of the the infinty gems,the illumanti had it untill recently but since i have a time machine thanks to beast and mr fantasic i can go back and get it

so now i have the infinty gauntlet.

next i use scarlet witch,you know the chick that makes reality obey her every whimp.

thats 4 so far.

next i use dark avengers sentry who is basicly void.

and i use captain universe.

and i use thor,during 2 weeks i get thor to get the destroyer armor and the odin sword,and get other asgardien artifacts to help amp his team mates.

so now mmh is facing the infinty gauntlet+void+a very high reality warper+captain universe+thor in a destroyer armor with ragnrok and mjolnir as his weapons.

and u are saying mmh beats that,yeah you aren't a fanboy or anything.

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#95 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

@vaeternus: and before u say you aren't being a fanboy think about this u said mmh beats whatever 7 being used

so how about i use

stark,beast,mr fantastic

i use the 2 weeks to get all of the the infinty gems,the illumanti had it untill recently but since i have a time machine thanks to beast and mr fantasic i can go back and get it

so now i have the infinty gauntlet.

next i use scarlet witch,you know the chick that makes reality obey her every whimp.

thats 4 so far.

next i use dark avengers sentry who is basicly void.

and i use captain universe.

and i use thor,during 2 weeks i get thor to get the destroyer armor and the odin sword,and get other asgardien artifacts to help amp his team mates.

so now mmh is facing the infinty gauntlet+void+a very high reality warper+captain universe+thor in a destroyer armor with ragnrok and mjolnir as his weapons.

and u are saying mmh beats that,yeah you aren't a fanboy or anything.

People who pull the "fanboy" card out are usually indeed "fanboys' themselves..;) Just saying, all I'm doing is trying to explain to you that there is no "New Earth" DC, it's New 52, period and that MMH has done ridiculous feats generally speaking therefore this is not a stomp. He can't just use TP but shapeshift, go intangible, alter his density, go invisible, has martian vision, can put him and others on astral planes, shall I go on? He has effected beings that could literally wipe everyone in the rest of the JL and Avengers out of existence...Nobody here is immune to his TP.

Also, I'm getting the vibe you're the OP under a different name with your "next I use Dark avengers sentry" comment, if you're making a thread with a winner in mind, that's considered spite and being biased, so please don't lecture me concerning "bias" when clearly you're favoring Marvel here going into this topic/making it. I recommend you read the rules next time please before posting....

It's fine, I used to do the same thing when I first joined CV many, many years ago.

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#97 Posted by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

@sophia89 said:

@vaeternus: and before u say you aren't being a fanboy think about this u said mmh beats whatever 7 being used

so how about i use

stark,beast,mr fantastic

i use the 2 weeks to get all of the the infinty gems,the illumanti had it untill recently but since i have a time machine thanks to beast and mr fantasic i can go back and get it

so now i have the infinty gauntlet.

next i use scarlet witch,you know the chick that makes reality obey her every whimp.

thats 4 so far.

next i use dark avengers sentry who is basicly void.

and i use captain universe.

and i use thor,during 2 weeks i get thor to get the destroyer armor and the odin sword,and get other asgardien artifacts to help amp his team mates.

so now mmh is facing the infinty gauntlet+void+a very high reality warper+captain universe+thor in a destroyer armor with ragnrok and mjolnir as his weapons.

and u are saying mmh beats that,yeah you aren't a fanboy or anything.

People who pull the "fanboy" card out are usually indeed "fanboys' themselves..;) Just saying,

"he who smelled it dealt it" that does'nt mean anyone with common sense should sit in a room that smells like gas so they don't get accused.

all I'm doing is trying to explain to you that there is no "New Earth" DC, it's New 52, period

ok tell the op that,for now let say he didn't mention which version so we use the current one which is n52.(even the scan is from a n52 issue btw)

and that MMH has done ridiculous feats generally speaking. He has effected beings that could literally wipe everyone in the rest of the JL and Avengers out of existence

thor effected existar the celestial,who could erase mmh+jl+avengers with ease,what you are doing is using a very flawed form of ABC.

...Nobody here is immune to his TP.

sentry is immune to tp,dr strange(who is an avenger)can put a spell to make them have high resistance to tp,reed can invent something to block a tp assault,tony can built an advanced robots to(like ultron)to fight mmh.and since its a robot it would be immune to tp,scarlet witch can make it so all the avengers's mind is blocked from tp,the infinity gauntlet would protect them from tp,etc

also didn't black adam make mmh cry when he entered his mind,thor is a god as well with high resistance to tp.

Also, I'm getting the vibe you're the OP under a different name with your "next I use Dark avengers sentry" comment, if you're making a thread with a winner in mind, that's considered spite and being biased, so please don't lecture me concerning "bias" when clearly you're favoring Marvel here going into this topic/making it. I recommend you read the rules next time please before posting....

i lol ed at that part,no i am not the op,yes i read the rules,and no i am not biased.

It's fine, I used to do the same thing when I first joined CV many, many years ago.

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#98 Edited by Erkan12 (9174 posts) - - Show Bio

Full power Sentry solos...

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#99 Edited by Vaeternus (9558 posts) - - Show Bio

sofia89, You must be very young if you're bringing up "smelled it dealt it" really?

ok, right....actually that doesn't help your case as you're the one who again brought up the term "fanboy" so yeah, obviously I'm not a fanboy then since you brought it up.

I have, assuming of course you're not the "OP" given your give away with "next time I use Dark Sentry!!" comment lol. Yes, the scan is from N52 that being said MMH has mindwiped reality warpers via Jenny Quantum, you were saying?

Not ABC logic...since Spectre>>>>>Celestials last time I checked.

How is a robot like MMH exactly? Yet you mention ABC logic? lol Proof Sentry is immune to TP? Scans? Besides, again that's not MMH's only weapon...

Thor has been effected by lower level TP's....cause I know this in another topic several users brought up an average level TP effecting Thor, MMH is HIGH level TP so yeah, not happening.

He effected his mind, yes he didn't make him "cry" Spectre effected MMH nearly koing him after he entered Spectre's mind, but still a feat regardless....

Sure you did ;) Whatever you say pal.

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#100 Edited by sophia89 (19802 posts) - - Show Bio

sofia89, You must be very young if you're bringing up "smelled it dealt it" really?

its the perfect response to "if u call someone a fanboy,then you the fanboy"

ok, right....actually that doesn't help your case as you're the one who again brought up the term "fanboy" so yeah, obviously I'm not a fanboy then since you brought it up.

you are,but whatever i am sure others will tell u the same.

I have, assuming of course you're not the "OP" given your give away with "next time I use Dark Sentry!!" comment

so everyone who posted i will take or choose are me too,also your lack of reading is astounding.i said next i use not next time i use,big difference.

lol. Yes, the scan is from N52 that being said MMH has mindwiped reality warpers via Jenny Quantum, you were saying?

Not ABC logic...since Spectre>>>>>Celestials last time I checked.

once again you have shown your fanboyism,u don't know anything about marvel characters yet u keep saying dc wins.btw there are celestials that are even stronger that LT,so check what you know before you post.and before you say i don't know what i am talking about then check OAA the celestial one(aka the fulcrum,aka jack kirby,aka the leader of all celestials,hords,watchers),tiamut the dreaming celestial,scathan the approver.all 3 are above LT.

How is a robot like MMH exactly?

once again your lack of reading is beyond the known lvls,i said a robot like ultron not mmh ultron.

Yet you mention ABC logic?

how is saying building a robot an ABC argument?

lol Proof Sentry is immune to TP?

why,u will just ignore it.but if u really want to see then see sentry vs any telepath you will find scans and statements to prove that.

Scans? Besides, again that's not MMH's only weapon...

i have the scans,but once again why?u will just ignore it.

Thor has been effected by lower level TP's....cause I know this in another topic several users brought up an average level TP effecting Thor, MMH is HIGH level TP so yeah, not happening.

ok,who effected thor using low lvl tp,cause thor resist phoenix powered emma frost from mindr*ping him,as well as other high lvl tp users.

He effected his mind, yes he didn't make him "cry" Spectre effected MMH nearly koing him after he entered Spectre's mind, but still a feat regardless....

Sure you did ;) Whatever you say pal.

anyways,i made a policy not to engage with trolls,fanboys,or a dc vs marvel threads(by that i mean fanboys vs fanboys),and since you are a fanboy or a troll i am ignoring you.

you really want to debate then research both characters,listen to what the other viner is saying,and don't be stubborn and prideful when u are wrong.

hopfully that helps u be a better debater,in the mean time goodbye.