Martian Manhunter vs Apocalypse

The two have similar powers, so who would win and why?

Hmm...I'm not sure.

Hmmm.......

stalemate?..

im giving it to apoc regardless of his terrible showings due to writers making him look like a b*tch in most fights

I think Apoc has this, isnt MM biggest power telepathy?

" I think Apoc has this, isnt MM biggest power telepathy? "

martian manhunter can phase through things too

"@GreenScar98 said:

" I think Apoc has this, isnt MM biggest power telepathy? "

I would say its MM's physical abilities."

" @Malvor said:

"@GreenScar98 said:

" I think Apoc has this, isnt MM biggest power telepathy? "

I would say its MM's physical abilities."

Apoc can match and even beat the Hulk when it comes to brute strength and he's a brick mostly, but Apoc also has complete and utter control over his own matter i dont think phasing will do all that much "

I'll go MMH here

"@GreenScar98 said:

" @Malvor said:

"@GreenScar98 said:

" I think Apoc has this, isnt MM biggest power telepathy? "

I would say its MM's physical abilities."

Apoc can match and even beat the Hulk when it comes to brute strength and he's a brick mostly, but Apoc also has complete and utter control over his own matter i dont think phasing will do all that much "

They are both about equal in molecular control, but do you know which comic it was they fought or how you know he is strong as Hulk? just wondering."

"The two have similar powers, so who would win and why? "

" The two have similar powers, so who would win and why? "

MM

MM wns.
Greater physical characteristsics, can turn intangible and has telepathy strong enough to overcome Apoc.

I say Martian Manhunter as well(no one below Superman's overall power level can take him on. Even then factoring things apart from his super-human abilities, like his intelligence and experience means more likely than not, they'd lose).

"MM wns.Greater physical characteristsics, can turn intangible and has telepathy strong enough to overcome Apoc. "

"@the creator said:

"MM wns.Greater physical characteristsics, can turn intangible and has telepathy strong enough to overcome Apoc. "

thats right "

MM Wins Here...

apocalypse wins he has every power manhunter has only he is stronger and has better energy powers. this is close because manhunter is faster but apocalypse is stronger and and has tk I have never seen manhunter use tk and if it gets into a hand to hand fight apocalypse is a better fighter and stronger.

MMH's speed ftw.

@inconvenient_truth:

but apocalypse won't fall to a blitz so I don't think that will be enough.

maybe not, but speed is everything. with that speed, that means his brain works faster than his movements so while he moves at super speed his brain is even faster and can mind rape him or just speed blitz him continually till he does go down.

@inconvenient_truth:

but apocalypse is so durable it could take manhunter a long time to even hurt apocalypse and the fact that apocalypse can recover from almost any thing manhunter could do physically.

and apocalypse doesn't tire manhunter does.

mmh is in superman tier strength wise and speed wise. he could bfr him and as i already mentioned(you ignored basically like 80% of my post) he could mind rape him since he would think to do it first since his reaction speed is faster,

apocalypse is immune to telepathy and doesn't have to breath and could just teleport back to earth.

eh, anyway, MMH can blitz and take him to the teleporters on the moon that didnt let doomsday reconstitute himself. which wouldnt allow apoc to think

equal i say mm wins 6 put of 10

no but this is just one on one no help outside sources involved and apocalypse also has low level transmutation powers and there is nothing manhunter can do to put apocalypse down the tec would work but the setup doesn't allow it.

@greenscar98: exactly which would give him the greater advantage

Apoc is outclassed here.

Martian Manhunter ftw

Apocalypse, much more ruthless, tp resistant, and overall much more durable, but a good match still.

apocalypse

Martian Manhunter would win but it would still be a decent fight.

Martian Manhunter is superior in every way except tech and intelligence.

Yes he is more ruthless, but how exactly does he put Martian Manhunter down? Manhunter has a very good healing factor, and Apocalypse may be resistant to a telepathic assault but not immune. He is also less durable, and not as physically strong either.

How? There is so much ways Manhunter can beat him. How about physically or mentally?

Yes he is more ruthless, but how exactly does he put Martian Manhunter down? Manhunter has a very good healing factor, and Apocalypse may be resistant to a telepathic assault but not immune. He is also less durable, and not as physically strong either.

How? There is so much ways Manhunter can beat him. How about physically or mentally?

@thundergodswrath: apocalypse has limitless strength and is immune to telepathy and can do anything manhunter can and has better energy manipulation and matter manipulation the only advantage manhunter has is speed and that won't help him much.

He does not have limitless strength, and to be honest his only good strength feat is choking Hulk with his metallic cords. When since was he immune to a telepathic assault? Martian Manhunter doesn't even have energy manipulation, but he does have his martian vision which has burnt up Black Adam's face. Also Apocalypse has small amounts of matter manipulation, nothing that can put down Martian Manhunter. The speed advantage will very well help. What if Martian Manhunter goes intangible, puts his head into Apocalypse's body, and uses martian vision from the inside?

@thundergodswrath: apocalypse has the abilities to increase his strength to an unknown limit he overpowered an enraged hulk with one arm and nearly killed thor in 3 hits and in another fight knocked thor across a city with one good hit. both thor and hulk are stronger than manhunter so it's safe to assume apocalypse is as well and.

Xavier can't get inside apocalypse's mind manhunter won't either.

apocalypse can phase as well and anything the Martian does to him he can heal from at will

@comic_book_fan:

But Xavier isn't better than Martian Manhunter..

Lmao...I remember this thread...MM wins here...

@wardemon32: yes he is or at least just as good

@comic_book_fan:

How is he just as good? What has he done to say that?

@wardemon32: I have had this debate at least 6 times anything that manhunter has done Xavier has done the marvel equivalent.

if we must do this again post a feat and I will answer it.

@comic_book_fan:

Credit to @citizenbane

J'onn has resisted the telepathy of NINE White Martians whose telepathic reach could extend across light years.

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How many times has Raven done something like that? Zero?

J'onn fought D'Kay D'Razz, a telepath so powerful she could scan billions of minds without even meaning to, and blasted her with the collective emotions of every single peson on Earth.

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Apocalypse has merged himself with Celestial technology and is able to augment his strength with such, in addition to being able to alter his size, he could old off MM in that department long enough for his superior intellect, ruthlessness and tech to win him this fight.