Marco the Pheonix Vs Eustass Kid

-current versions/peak condition

location - Rooftop

Marco still schools Mid

I'm gonna have to give this to Marco. Marco's Phoenix form moves to swiftly for kid to hit, he'd weave through his attacks and would ultimately wreck him.

Even if Kid + Law beat big mom I will still bet my money on Marco.Marco was taking on both King and Queen at the same time. Big mom seems to hold him in high regard. Marco wins 6/10

Marco high diff

Marco obviously

Marco high diff

Marco extreme diff. Never found Kid to be that impressive.

Marco mid-diffs midd

Kidd

If Kid can outlast Marco then he wins. Kid was taking shots from Big Mom so I don't think Marco can KO Kidd before he runs out of juice.

Can go for both

Make it make sense.

Kidd high diff

Marco

Marco high diff

Marco extreme diff

Marco, but it isn't easy. Kidd may be the least impressive of the trio, but he is still extremely powerful. His fruit just isn't busted OP like Marco's or Law's.

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Kidd and Law would have to be at least slightly above the 1st Yonkou mate level to defeat Big Mom

Kidd

Marco is a bad match up for Kidd

Yeah, Marco high diff

Kid high dif

I would root for Marco since he's one of my favorite characters but Kidd beating Big Mom (even with help) is better then anything Marco has ever done.

Marco is a bad match up for Kidd. He takes it

Kidd. Marco out here getting choked out casually by BM.

And his AP is weak, he couldn’t do anything to king

Kid is so weak compared to other worst gen characters, damn even buggy is better then him.

I'm not a big Kid fan, but I'd like to state how under-rated and impressive he is. Alongside Law's Kroom, his Punk Clash drew blood from Big Mom and caused her to feel more pain than she had felt in decades. He made Base Kaido grunt in pain after slightly harming him with a Punk Vise, and then made Zoan Kaido cry out in pain with a Slam Gibson. His Punk Corna Dio broke a lifespan amplified Big Mom's arm and made her fearful of getting hit by it a second time [with one of her Homies even telling her to dodge the attack], and his Damned Punk made a lifespan amplified Big Mom cough large amounts of blood and scream in agony.

As for his durability, Kid has taken several attacks from Big Mom, which consist of Heavenly Bonbon, Ikoku Sovereignty, Fulgora, Mama Raid, and a Tenman Daijizai Tenjin strike. He even took a point-blank punch from Big Mom to the face and was only slightly injured.

Keep in mind that Post-WCI G4 Luffy was incapable of damaging a base, jobbing Kaido and got blitzed and one shot at the start of Wano. Considering that the general concensus is Base Kaido>>>>>Katakuri, Kid who hurt and took attacks from Yonko should scale above most YC1s, including Marco who was choked out by Big Mom.

Marco holding off King & Queen is irrelevant for two reasons. 1). He didn't deal any meaningful or lasting damage to either. 2). Big Mom scales higher than all 3 of the Top Performers combined, and Kid stalemated her in an offscreen 1v1 (homies included) until Law arrived.

After Mid's shameful performance against Shanks has the CV consensus changed?

Bump

I still somewhat agree with this statement, but this would mean that Law was significantly above the 1st Yonko commander, probably an admiral level, while Kid was a mid or high tier 1st Yonko commander

Kid. Marco’s main weakness is lack of AP or DC and Kid’s durability let him eat multiple hits from Big Mom with no lasting damage which puts his durability above Queen’s who got two-shotted by Linlin’s unnamed attacks. The same Queen whom Marco could knock around but fail to damage. Kid’s performance against Big Mom is much more impressive than Marco’s in terms of damage dealt and overall effectiveness. Marco got grabbed by Linlin and easily overpowered-Kid w/his Devil Fruit blocked Big Mom’s Napoleon slash then slammed her face to the ground with Punk Gibson.

Serpentgod covered everything nicely.

After Mid's shameful performance against Shanks has the CV consensus changed?

No. Shanks is just him. He would do the same thing to Marco or Law. lol

The Yonko and Admirals talk highly of Marco meanwhile Shanks disposed of midd like he was yesterday's trash.Marco destroys midd