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Posted by HerpaDerpaDerp (14 posts) 5 months, 2 days ago

Poll: Marcel Cinematic Universe - Thor's skin vs Captain America's shield: Which is more durable? (27 votes)

Captain America's shield 74%
Thor's skin 26%
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#1 Posted by Floopay (11177 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor's for energy resistance, the shield for physical resistance.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#2 Edited by ITouchedTheBoat (3378 posts) - - Show Bio

Caps shield took a hit from Thor that created a shockwave through most of the forest in Avengers 1. I don't think Thor himself would tank that without at least getting a bloody nose or something

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#3 Posted by StormShadow_X (16373 posts) - - Show Bio

Shield

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#4 Posted by miekskywalker (2069 posts) - - Show Bio

Exactly what floo said

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#5 Posted by AngelJax (11597 posts) - - Show Bio

@floopay said:

Thor's for energy resistance, the shield for physical resistance.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#6 Posted by HerpaDerpaDerp (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@floopay said:

Thor's for energy resistance, the shield for physical resistance.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

No difference.

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#7 Posted by ANTHP2000 (25886 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely the shield. Thor's not vibranium and he never will be.

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#8 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's be clear, Thor got ONE high-end feat and a ton of anti-feats. Now, i don't want to disregard the super-awesome star feat, but comparing him to Cap's shield is a bit too much.

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#9 Edited by HerpaDerpaDerp (14 posts) - - Show Bio

Definitely the shield. Thor's not vibranium and he never will be.

Vibranium was melted by Thor, Iron Man, and Vision. Thor's skin resisted the full force of a Neutron Star.

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#10 Edited by Gorochu44 (467 posts) - - Show Bio
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#11 Posted by HerpaDerpaDerp (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@herpaderpaderp: He would have died if not for Stormbreaker.

Even surviving that level of energy he did for half a second, is many, many times more powerful than what it took to melt Vibranium Lol

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#12 Posted by lilcabbage (710 posts) - - Show Bio

op is dumb

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#13 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: Tanking a city exploding isn’t exactly a low end feat

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#14 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: Tanking a city exploding isn’t exactly a low end feat

It is if you compare it to the statement of "tanking a force of a star".

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#15 Edited by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: Let me re phrase that. I meant it is not an anti feat

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#16 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: Let me re phrase that. I meant it is not an anti feat

Can't find a clip online, but, wasn't he knocked out after the explosion? I remember him falling in the water and sinking for a while.

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#17 Edited by Gorochu44 (467 posts) - - Show Bio

@herpaderpaderp: So you're saying Thor could have tanked the blast that was melting Ultron? I really doubt it.

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#18 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: That is often debated, but Thor has had Mjolnir knocked from him before, and that would make him fall like that. There is no proof he was KO’d, and there was no visible damage, so it looks like he tanked it

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#19 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: That is often debated, but Thor has had Mjolnir knocked from him before, and that would make him fall like that. There is no proof he was KO’d, and there was no visible damage, so it looks like he tanked it

It is the sinking that worried me, not the falling from the sky. he seemed like he was out.

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#20 Edited by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: He was blasted down from like 20k feet... that’s gonna make him sink pretty far pretty fast

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#21 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: He was blasted down from like 20k feet... that’s gonna make him sink pretty far pretty fast

Not the way it happened. he didn't plunge deeply in the water. He (relatively) slowly sank after he fell in. Of course, it is quite possible that he is just a very poor swimmer.

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#22 Posted by Kevd4wg (12522 posts) - - Show Bio

The shield ofc

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#23 Posted by xMangog__Beastx (4705 posts) - - Show Bio

@angeljax said:
@floopay said:

Thor's for energy resistance, the shield for physical resistance.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#24 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: The shot was on him for about 1.5 seconds. Is that concrete proof that he is KO’ed?

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#25 Posted by deactivated-5c8fd6cb3e4f4 (18365 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor definitely

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#26 Posted by HerpaDerpaDerp (14 posts) - - Show Bio

@herpaderpaderp: So you're saying Thor could have tanked the blast that was melting Ultron? I really doubt it.

Very easily and many times over.

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#27 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: The shot was on him for about 1.5 seconds. Is that concrete proof that he is KO’ed?

No, but, is there any proof that he wasn't knocked out?

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#28 Edited by deactivated-5bdcbb8da1d15 (5093 posts) - - Show Bio

@floopay said:

Thor's for energy resistance, the shield for physical resistance.

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#29 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: The burden of proof is on the person saying he was KO’d, because that’s a change from his initial state.

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#30 Posted by hyiena (5276 posts) - - Show Bio

Loki stabbed Thor in Avengers, shield hasn't been pierced yet.

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#31 Edited by JohnnyZ256 (6466 posts) - - Show Bio

This is not a battle.

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#32 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@hyiena: Yes it has, black panther’s claws

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#33 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor, obviously

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#34 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: The burden of proof is on the person saying he was KO’d, because that’s a change from his initial state.

I have offered proof. You deem it insufficient, however, you have no proof for your claim. Also, you are the one that made the claim that he tanked the explosion.

At this point in time, my evidence is vastly superior to yours. We saw Thor flop into the water and slowly sink down. We didn't see him tank the explosion. We simply saw him survive it.

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#35 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: there was no visible damage to him at all. You yourself admitted what you said wasn’t proof, so idk what you mean.

What we know for sure

-Thor has no visible damage from the explosion

-Thor fell in to the water and didn’t move for about 1 second

-Thor often drops his hammer when taking damage, so falling makes sense

That’s not proof he was KO’d, and without proof of that we should assume he tanked it

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#36 Posted by Chimeroid (9237 posts) - - Show Bio

@xzone said:

@chimeroid: there was no visible damage to him at all. You yourself admitted what you said wasn’t proof, so idk what you mean.

What we know for sure

-Thor has no visible damage from the explosion

-Thor fell in to the water and didn’t move for about 1 second

-Thor often drops his hammer when taking damage, so falling makes sense

That’s not proof he was KO’d, and without proof of that we should assume he tanked it

NO

You never assume your character to be stronger due to the lack of proof. it is quite the opposite. If you are making assumptions, you should always go for the lower figure, or, in this case, for the highest "provable" value of the feat.

Also, i didn't say that my post wasn't proof. I just said that it isn't concrete enough. Again, it is much better than what you have brought up. Either way, the fact that a city bsting explosion is a debatable feat is direct proof that Thor is not a star level character.

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#37 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

@chimeroid: What? Lol. First off, what do you mean by “star level”?

Second, there’s a difference between assuming the character is stronger and simply saying there is no evidence of him being KO’d. I’ll make it a little simpler.

Thor was initially not ko’d (Of course) then the explosion happened. Since Thor was initially NOT ko’d We need evidence that he Was KO’d, not evidence that he wasn’t KO’d. Since there is not real evidence he was KO’d, he wasn’t. I see what you are saying, but we are not making an assumption unless we are saying he was KO’d, because there is no proof of that.

Regardless, there was no visible burned or bleeding areas of Thor’s body from the explosion, so at the very least he can survive the explosion while being KO’d, but again, there is no real evidence he was KO’d.

As to the “star level”. One could say he had an amp in ragnarok, but personally, I don’t buy in to the “full force of a star” stuff per se, because I want to see more feats on that level.

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#38 Posted by xZone (10341 posts) - - Show Bio

Also, if we are saying the shield is>Thor than that would mean

Vibranium>Thor>>Uru which makes black panther, vibranium ultron, and such FAR more powerful than initially thought

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#39 Posted by Oreoghoul (1664 posts) - - Show Bio

Thor by feats