Mandalorian Ahsoka vs TPM Maul vs ROTS Kenobi

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Round 1: They start 30 ft apart on Utapau. (Sabers and Force)

(In character)

Round 2: They start 30 ft apart in the Jedi Temple. (Sabers and Force)

(Bloodlusted)

Round 3: They start 30 ft apart in a dark Corosaunt Alley. (H2H combat)

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Rots Kenobi solo

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ROTS Obi-Wan Kenobi

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Kenobi > Ahsoka > Maul

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KENOBAAAAAE

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tbh either solo. Mando Ahsoka was nerfed.

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#7  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

Ashoka barely due to scaling off of her Rebels self. Filoni directly called her a master and heavily implied this was her prime. She had no reason to go all out at any point in the episode.

Ahsoka >|= Obi Wan > Maul

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#8  Edited By SheevSmacker

@emmafrostxmen said:

Ashoka due to scaling off of her Rebels self. Filoni directly called her a master and heavily implied this was her prime.

rots kenobi win

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#9  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

@sheevsmacker: Kenobi fought an inferior opponent in Anakin and he had the perfect fighting style to counter him yet he was still losing until he got an environmental advantage...Ahsoka fought Vader immediately after fighting Maul and several inquisitors and still lasted almost 2 minutes proving she has parity with a superior opponent.

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Maul and Kenobi win this with low-mid difficulty. Honestly, both these versions of Maul and Kenobi could solo.

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@sheevsmacker: Kenobi fought an inferior opponent in Anakin and he had the perfect fighting style to counter him yet he was still losing until he got an environmental advantage...Ahsoka fought Vader immediately after fighting Maul and several inquisitors and still lasted almost 2 minutes proving she has parity with a superior opponent.

What are you on about ROTS Anakin > Any version of Ahsoka lmao let alone dark side anakin

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@sheevsmacker: I have Anakin as a slightly superior opponent to both Ahsoka and Obi Wan, but Ahsoka can contend with him extremely well based on her prolonged fight with Darth Vader who scales above Anakin in dueling and the force.

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@sheevsmacker: I have Anakin as a slightly superior opponent to both Ahsoka and Obi Wan, but Ahsoka can contend with him extremely well based on her prolonged fight with Darth Vader who scales above Anakin in dueling and the force.

Obi Wan = Pre suit Vader > ROTS Anakin >> Ahsoka

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#14  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

@sheevsmacker: factually and objectively wrong. Vader >> Anakin > Ahsoka >|= Obi Wan. Obi Wan had a stylistic advantage against Anakin (Obi being completely defensive), and only won due to a location advantage.

Ahsoka contended with a superior opponent for a lengthy amount of time while using a much more tiring and fatiguing lightsaber form immediately after dueling Darth Maul. Obi Wan’s feat isn’t as impressive in context.

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@sheevsmacker: factually and objectively wrong. Vader >> Anakin > Ahsoka >|= Obi Wan. Obi Wan had a stylistic advantage against Anakin (Obi being completely defensive), and only won due to a location advantage.

Ahsoka contended with a superior opponent for a lengthy amount of time while using a much more tiring and fatiguing lightsaber form immediately after dueling Darth Maul. Obi Wan’s feat isn’t as impressive in context.

factually and objectively wrong. Vader >> Anakin > Ahsoka >|= Obi Wan. Obi Wan had a stylistic advantage against Anakin (Obi being completely defensive), and only won due to a location advantage.

Wrong. Dark Side Anakin = Obi Wan this is show on screen. To say otherwise are being objectively wrong.

Obi Wan’s feat isn’t as impressive in context.

Stalemate DS Anakin >> Lose handily to Vader.

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@sheevsmacker: No, this is just not true. Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp. Anakin was clearly mentally distressed and was at a disadvantage in both form and Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form and having dueled prior to the fight and yet he still never broke her guard without the aid of the force so saying handily is factually wrong.

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kenobi since there is no concrete implication about ashoka being in her prime considering previous sources especially rebels is where the character is at his strongest

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ahsoka wins. she is the most powerful here as she put up more of a fight against vader than the others. the other 2 would get ragdolled, as obi wan did against dooku while anakin was there.

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Well if we're going strictly based on the feats from the show, Ahsoka got heavily nerfed. No idea why she struggled at all with that lady. And as such Kenobi would win this. Via scaling from Rebels and assuming Ahsoka is at or near her peak, it'd come down to her and Kenobi, of which I'm really not sure who would take it.

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Kenobi > Ahsoka > Maul.

Its just this simple.

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Obi wan solos. Maul could give her a good fight.

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@nfactor1995: realistically that was a feat for the lady not an anti feat for Ahsoka, and Ahsoka still stomped her with one lightsaber when she got serious. Additionally she didn’t use the force the entire fight.

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Obi wan solos. Maul could give her a good fight.

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This is a 1 v 1 v 1

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Kenobi.

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Kenobi > Maul >> Ahsoka

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@sheevsmacker: Ignore EmmaFrostXmen, it’s a waste of time honestly.

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#28  Edited By SheevSmacker

@flolikeyou said:

@sheevsmacker: Ignore EmmaFrostXmen, it’s a waste of time honestly.

Ty for warning flo but I think I can handling deabt with emma .

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@sheevsmacker: No, this is just not true. Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp. Anakin was clearly mentally distressed and was at a disadvantage in both form and Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form and having dueled prior to the fight and yet he still never broke her guard without the aid of the force so saying handily is factually wrong.

Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp.

There are simple explanation for this. Kenobi that stalemate Anakin on Mustafar is >>> Kenobi that loose to Dooku on Invisible Hand.

Anakin was clearly mentally distressed

You have proof it weaken yes or no?

was at a disadvantage in both form

You having proof?

Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Obi Wan always like this mate. Is no differences.

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form

You have proof is are two minute? Regardless. She is are handily losing to the Vader while Kenobi complete stalemating Pre suit Vader for very long time.

yet he still never broke her guard without the aid of the force so saying handily is factually wrong.

Yes but porblem is.

He break guard.

It not matter that he use force.

He break guard. Fact.

Say handily is factually correct.

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#29  Edited By Bayman007

Ahsoka wins. Maul dies first.

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@sheevsmacker: Ignore EmmaFrostXmen, it’s a waste of time honestly.

Either tag me or keep my name off of your keypad.

I have changed my stance on numerous debates in the past, I listen to reason, and accept when I am wrong as any other person on the site should. Leave me alone please because i wan't talking to you.

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@flolikeyou said:

@sheevsmacker: Ignore EmmaFrostXmen, it’s a waste of time honestly.

Ty for warning flo but I think I can handling deabt with emma .

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@sheevsmacker: No, this is just not true. Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp. Anakin was clearly mentally distressed and was at a disadvantage in both form and Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form and having dueled prior to the fight and yet he still never broke her guard without the aid of the force so saying handily is factually wrong.

Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp.

There are simple explanation for this. Kenobi that stalemate Anakin on Mustafar is >>> Kenobi that loose to Dooku on Invisible Hand.

Do you have a quote saying Kenobi got stronger throughout the few hours that separate beginning of film Kenobi to end of film Kenobi?

Anakin was clearly mentally distressed

You have proof it weaken yes or no?

Yes this article details the effects of emotional trauma on the body and it severely hinders it.

Emotional and Psychological Trauma

Physical Effects:

  • Insomnia or nightmares
  • Fatigue
  • Being startled easily
  • Difficulty concentrating
  • Racing heartbeat
  • Edginess and agitation
  • Aches and pains
  • Muscle tension

was at a disadvantage in both form

You having proof?

Kenobi uses a completely defensive form, while Anakin uses a completely offensive form. Kenobi was stonewalling Anakin the whole time as depicted.

Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Obi Wan always like this mate. Is no differences.

It makes a massive difference. Someone fighting emotional or actually doing any physical activity while emotional will fatigue faster, and not think straight. Read the article posted above. Like I said it's a massive hindrance.

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form

You have proof is are two minute? Regardless. She is are handily losing to the Vader while Kenobi complete stalemating Pre suit Vader for very long time.

Vader is confirmed to be above Anakin in canon and Ahsoka was able to completely stalemate him and he never broke her guard in lightsaber combat, only by way of the force which is important because it means he failed to outskill her directly. Additionally if you count the force as "breaking someones guard" then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight much faster.

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#33  Edited By Lord_Tenebrous

Maul & Obi-Wan are in their confirmed primes here. On a logical basis, including statements from Filoni, so is Ahsoka. I see no reason to believe she's not a solid tier 8 now.

TPM Maul => ROTS Obi-Wan => Master Ahsoka

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Ahsoka>Kenobi>Maul.

She wins

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@sheevsmacker said:
@flolikeyou said:

@sheevsmacker: Ignore EmmaFrostXmen, it’s a waste of time honestly.

Ty for warning flo but I think I can handling deabt with emma .

@emmafrostxmen said:

@sheevsmacker: No, this is just not true. Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp. Anakin was clearly mentally distressed and was at a disadvantage in both form and Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form and having dueled prior to the fight and yet he still never broke her guard without the aid of the force so saying handily is factually wrong.

Earlier in the movie Obi was fodder to Dooku despite Anakin being able to match him prior to rage amp.

There are simple explanation for this. Kenobi that stalemate Anakin on Mustafar is >>> Kenobi that loose to Dooku on Invisible Hand.

Do you have a quote saying Kenobi got stronger throughout the few hours that separate beginning of film Kenobi to end of film Kenobi?

Anakin was clearly mentally distressed

You have proof it weaken yes or no?

Yes this article details the effects of emotional trauma on the body and it severely hinders it.

Emotional and Psychological Trauma

Physical Effects:

  • Insomnia or nightmares
  • Fatigue
  • Being startled easily
  • Difficulty concentrating
  • Racing heartbeat
  • Edginess and agitation
  • Aches and pains
  • Muscle tension

was at a disadvantage in both form

You having proof?

Kenobi uses a completely defensive form, while Anakin uses a completely offensive form. Kenobi was stonewalling Anakin the whole time as depicted.

Obi being calm cool and collected (for the most part).

Obi Wan always like this mate. Is no differences.

It makes a massive difference. Someone fighting emotional or actually doing any physical activity while emotional will fatigue faster, and not think straight. Read the article posted above. Like I said it's a massive hindrance.

Second, Ahsoka lasted 2 minutes against Vader while using the most physically demanding form

You have proof is are two minute? Regardless. She is are handily losing to the Vader while Kenobi complete stalemating Pre suit Vader for very long time.

Vader is confirmed to be above Anakin in canon and Ahsoka was able to completely stalemate him and he never broke her guard in lightsaber combat, only by way of the force which is important because it means he failed to outskill her directly. Additionally if you count the force as "breaking someones guard" then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight much faster.

So you are suggest that Ahsoka = Vader? Lmao.

Do you have a quote saying Kenobi got stronger throughout the few hours that separate beginning of film Kenobi to end of film Kenobi?

With Anakin's grip on his wrists bending his arms near to breaking, forcing both their lightsabers down in a slow but un-stoppable arc, Obi-Wan let go. Of everything.

His hopes. His fears. His obligation to the Jedi, his promise to Qui-Gon, his failure with Anakin. And their lightsabers.

Startled, Anakin instinctively shifted his Force grip, releasing one wrist to reach for his blade; in that instant Obi-Wan twisted free of his other hand and with the Force caught up his own blade, reversing it along his forearm so that his swift parry of Anakin's thundering overhand not only blocked the strike but directed both blades to slice through the wall against which he stood. He slid Anakin's following thrust through the wall on the opposite side, guiding both blades again up and over his head in a circular sweep so that he could use the power of Anakin's next chop to drive himself backward through the wall, outside into the smoke and the falling cinders.

Anakin followed, constantly attacking; Obi-Wan again gave ground, retreating along a narrow balcony high above the black-sand shoreline of a lake of fire.

Mustafar hummed with death behind his back, only a moment away, somewhere out there among the rivers of molten rock. Obi-Wan let Anakin drive him toward it.

It was a place, he decided, they should reach together. Anakin forced him back and back, slamming his blade down with strength that seemed to flow from the volcano overhead. He spun and whirled and sliced razor-sharp shards of steel from the wall and shot them at Obi-Wan with the full heat of his fury. He slashed through a control panel along the walkway, and the ray shield that had held back the lava storm vanished.

Fire rained around them.

Obi-Wan backed to the end of the balcony; behind him was only a power conduit no thicker than his arm, connecting it to the main collection plant of the old lava mine, over a riverbed that flowed with white-hot molten stone. Obi-Wan stepped backward onto the conduit without hesitation, his balance flawless as he parried chop after chop.

Anakin came on.

Out on the tightrope of power conduit, their blades blurred even faster than before. They chopped and slashed and parried and blocked. Lava bombs thundered to the ground below, shedding drops of burning stone that scorched their robes. Smoke shrouded the planet's star, and now the only light came from the hell-glow of the lava below them and from their blades themselves. Flares of energy crackled and spat.

This was not Sith against Jedi. This was not light against dark or good against evil; it had nothing to do with duty or philosophy, religion or morals.

It was Anakin against Obi-Wan.

Personally.

Just the two of them, and the damage they had done to each other.

Obi-Wan backflipped from the conduit to a coupling nexus of the main collection plant; when Anakin flew in pursuit, Obi-Wan leapt again. They spun and whirled throughout its levels, up its stairs, and across its platforms; they battled out onto the collection panels over which the cascades of lava poured, and Obi-Wan, out on the edge of the collection panel, hunching under a curve of durasteel that splashed aside gouts of lava, deflecting Force blasts and countering strikes from this creature of rage that had been his best friend, suddenly comprehended an unexpectedly profound truth.

The man he faced was everything Obi-Wan had devoted his life to destroying: Murderer. Traitor. Fallen Jedi. Lord of the Sith. And here, and now, despite it all...Obi-Wan still loved him.

Yoda had said it, flat-out: Allow such attachments to pass out of one's life, a Jedi must, but Obi-Wan had never let himself understand. He had argued for Anakin, made excuses, covered for him again and again and again; all the while this attachment he denied even feeling had blinded him to the dark path his best friend walked.

Obi-Wan knew there was, in the end, only one answer for attachment...

He let it go.

Before this Kenobi is get batter by Anakin but then he 'let go' and he can stalemating him and deflect force blast.

Yes this article details the effects of emotional trauma on the body and it severely hinders it.

Emotional and Psychological Trauma

Physical Effects:

  • Insomnia or nightmares
  • Fatigue
  • Being startled easily
  • Difficulty concentrating
  • Racing heartbeat
  • Edginess and agitation
  • Aches and pains
  • Muscle tension

You are have no proof that Anakin are hindered by this. Yes he have nightmare but he there are no proof he have other symptom/effect as KFV would have same hinderance as Mustafar Anakin.

Kenobi uses a completely defensive form, while Anakin uses a completely offensive form. Kenobi was stonewalling Anakin the whole time as depicted.

Yes he is stonewall Anakin because he is are just that good.

It makes a massive difference. Someone fighting emotional or actually doing any physical activity while emotional will fatigue faster, and not think straight. Read the article posted above. Like I said it's a massive hindrance.

Anakin are always emotional mate. That is what make him so powerful. You no have proof that superhuman jedi knight like Anakin are hinder by this.

Vader is confirmed to be above Anakin in canon and Ahsoka was able to completely stalemate him and he never broke her guard in lightsaber combat, only by way of the force which is important because it means he failed to outskill her directly. Additionally if you count the force as "breaking someones guard" then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight much faster.

Vader is barely affect by Ahsoka use of force on him. Also she not stalemate him she clearly losing to him. Last part of fight show that Ahsoka are doom to die and she would die if not for Ezra. this are factuality. Also Vader send her flying while Ahsoka not send Vader flying and no have significant effect.

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#36  Edited By FloLikeYou

@sheevsmacker: EmmaFrostXmen does hold Ahsoka as a superior to ROTS Kenobi and somewhat of en equal to ROTS Mace. I would simply ignore them.

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Ahsoka>Kenobi>Maul.

She wins

agree with this

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#38  Edited By EmmaFrostXmen

@flolikeyou: please never ever put words in my mouth. I’ve never said that and currently I have no respect for you at all considering someone’s opinion being different from yours leads you to say “ignore them”. Lol this site is about having different opinions and half of what you said is a lie anyway😭😓☠️

Obi Wan:

-long drawn out duel with Anakin where he only won’t via an environmental advantage

-equalled Anakin in the force

Ahsoka:

-long drawn out duel with Vader (who is superior to Anakin) where Vader was forced to BFR her despite wanting her dead the 2nd most in the galaxy

-contended extremely briefly with Palpatine in the force

I hold Ahsoka extremely slightly above ROTS Obi Wan, and I hold both slightly above Maul but they’re all around the same level. Mace is a tier above every character mentioned. So please id love to know where I have ever said Ahsoka = Mace? Oh yes It never happened. Keep my name out of your mouth, and if you reply don’t bother making more shit up.

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@sheevsmacker: a stalemate is just when two parties equal each other. Ahsoka equalled him for around a minute and 30 seconds before we actually see her start really losing. Additionally her force push did about the same to him that his did to her. It just so happened she was on a cliff so the push ended up BFR’ing her. He never broke her guard and she never broke his.

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@flolikeyou: also I just now realized. You’re not only lying, but you seem obsessed with telling people I’m a waste of time despite me actually having listened to people and been very lenient on my own points. If someone brings up a good point or counter I agree with it, if they don’t I don’t. I’m extremely fair to debate with (although I’ll admit I slip up sometimes), so you have no right slandering my name on the site and if this continues I’m going to contact the mods.

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@emmafrostxmen: I never made anything up. Lol. In another post (don’t know which one) you said that you think Obi is only slightly behind Mace and that you hold peak Ahsoka a whole tier above Kenobi, which in fact means that you hold her as his equal or plain as his superior.

Why would I even make this up? I don’t like unnecessary disputes.

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@flolikeyou: I have never and will never say that. Mace is a full tier above Obi and Ahsoka if not more. Look for the thread you made your accusations about or admit it was a lie.

Additionally if you really don’t like unnecessary disputes stop obsessively telling people not to debate with me on a debating site, I would never do this to anyone honestly, and it’s upsetting my different opinion (which is necessary for this site to run correctly) has affected you that much.

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@sheevsmacker: a stalemate is just when two parties equal each other. Ahsoka equalled him for around a minute and 30 seconds before we actually see her start really losing. Additionally her force push did about the same to him that his did to her. It just so happened she was on a cliff so the push ended up BFR’ing her. He never broke her guard and she never broke his.

a stalemate is just when two parties equal each other

See definition.

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Ahsoka equalled him for around a minute and 30 seconds before we actually see her start really losing.

You yourself admitting that Ahsoka are losing. Therefore by definition is not stalemate.

Additionally her force push did about the same to him that his did to her.

Wrong. Ahsoka force push only make Vader sliding. Vader force push on Ahsoka blast her off her feet even before she reach ledge.

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Is not same.

When Ahsoka push Vader he barely affect by it and only sliding

When Vader push Ahsoka he send her flying off her feat with blast.

Vader better.

He never broke her guard and she never broke his.

Factually false.

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@flolikeyou: additionally I’ve never ever ever ever said Ahsoka was a tier above Kenobi, these lies are funny.

Since you keep talking to others about me you seem to have a very good reason to lie and invalidate me as a debater by saying I have these wild opinions that simply aren’t true.

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@emmafrostxmen: Yeah I’m super obsessed. LMAO.

You say I’m obsessed with you because I told literally two users to not engage in an argument with you because you can’t accept Ahsoka losing.

Also IIRC You were the one to slander my name, I just want to remind you to (I believe it was) a post in which the creator wanted the Viners to place Ahsoka at the level they view her at (low, mid, high Master etc.)

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@sheevsmacker: I know the definition well actually. A stalemate doesn’t need to be indefinite so my statement holds up. “She equalled him for a minute and 30 seconds” is what I said which is a temporary stalemate factually and not debatably. An indefinite stalemate is different and is not what I said. In order for it to be a stalemate I can just use it referring to a single part of the duel which is exactly what I did.

Ahsoka was on her back foot when he force pushed her so she obviously fell off the ledge. Hypothetically If Ahsoka force pushed Vader there he would have slid right off the cliff as well. It’s not impressive.

I pointed this out before but if you consider a force push like Vader did on Ahsoka “breaking her guard” then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight almost immediately, and if you don’t consider a force push breaking someone guard then neither character broke the others guard with lightsaber skill alone.

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@emmafrostxmen: I ask again, why would I lie?

You are (again) the one to slander my name in calling me a liar.

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@flolikeyou: no you are factually a liar. It’s not slander. You have no evidence despite you saying I posted it, and you are standing by it despite me stating I’ve never said that. If you’re so sure I said that go find it, and until then you are factually a liar for spreading false information about my opinion, trying to invalidate my opinion on a site that is supposed to feed many opinions, and doing this all with no evidence despite you stating that there is evidence.

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@emmafrostxmen: Why is it on me to look up your stuff? You might have as well deleted it at this point.

Also it’s funny how you ignore that I acknowledged you slandering my name in an older threat.

I’m sorry if you feel like I don’t like you, because that’s not the case. I agreed many times with you before (you’re prolly not remembering them) but I do think it leads nowhere to argue with you about battles including Ahsoka.

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@sheevsmacker: I know the definition well actually. A stalemate doesn’t need to be indefinite so my statement holds up. “She equalled him for a minute and 30 seconds” is what I said which is a temporary stalemate factually and not debatably. An indefinite stalemate is different and is not what I said. In order for it to be a stalemate I can just use it referring to a single part of the duel which is exactly what I did.

Ahsoka was on her back foot when he force pushed her so she obviously fell off the ledge. Hypothetically If Ahsoka force pushed Vader there he would have slid right off the cliff as well. It’s not impressive.

I pointed this out before but if you consider a force push like Vader did on Ahsoka “breaking her guard” then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight almost immediately, and if you don’t consider a force push breaking someone guard then neither character broke the others guard with lightsaber skill alone.

I know the definition well actually.

So you are in a conscious denial then?

A stalemate doesn’t need to be indefinite so my statement holds up

You can read or no?

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Vader are winning against the Ahsoka. Is not a stalemates.

Ahsoka was on her back foot when he force pushed her so she obviously fell off the ledge. Hypothetically If Ahsoka force pushed Vader there he would have slid right off the cliff as well. It’s not impressive.

I not think you are understanding or are able to read. I will say again.

When Vader push Ahsoka he send her off her feet and sending her flying.

When Ahsoka push the Vader he only slide and is barely affect by it.

Is very different if you watching video.

I pointed this out before but if you consider a force push like Vader did on Ahsoka “breaking her guard” then Ahsoka broke his guard earlier in the fight almost immediately

Ahsoka barely affect Vader when push while Vader send her off her feet.

Also Vader handily beating Ahsoka by end of fight.

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Ahsoka can barely even affecting the Vader with forces. Also Ezra realise that Ahsoka will die to the Vader which put Vader above her.