@arcus: In the first few rounds a combination of Mako's stun lightning and Bolin's lava will prove too much for the opposition, in round 4 Bolin could be overwhelmed by the amount of earth, but Mako and fire the shots to take Toph down. In round 5 Unalaq's power is just too much for them.
They would lose to everyone after Zuko. I've never really seen Mako as that great of a bender, and Bolin is pretty good, but not enough to get them past Azula.
They would lose to everyone after Zuko. I've never really seen Mako as that great of a bender, and Bolin is pretty good, but not enough to get them past Azula.
Mako's got some solid skills, and by Season 4 I'd say Bolin was a heavy hitter. Individually they might not be on the same level as people here (though arguments could and have been made for Bolin against some of the lower levels), but with their teamwork I'd say they've at least got a good shot against everyone here
They stale mate with tenzin. Unalaq's bending ability was never too impressive I think Tonraq is the better brother from that stand point. I think they'd lose to korra by a small margin.
@arcus: Mako is an outstanding martial artist, I agree, but he lacks power, and his best feats probably aren't enough to beat Zuko IMO. Bolin is a very impressive earthbender and because of him they'd beat Zuko, but the others in this gaubtlet are high level threats and would take a majority or stomp the duo tbh
@arcus: Mako is an outstanding martial artist, I agree, but he lacks power, and his best feats probably aren't enough to beat Zuko IMO. Bolin is a very impressive earthbender and because of him they'd beat Zuko, but the others in this gaubtlet are high level threats and would take a majority or stomp the duo tbh
Mako might not have as much raw power as some other benders, but he's got some solid feats
Unalaq, one of the higher tier benders here, wasn't stomping Mako and Bolin when he fought them, and that was just book 2 Mako and Bolin
@arcus: Mako is an outstanding martial artist, I agree, but he lacks power, and his best feats probably aren't enough to beat Zuko IMO. Bolin is a very impressive earthbender and because of him they'd beat Zuko, but the others in this gaubtlet are high level threats and would take a majority or stomp the duo tbh
Mako might not have as much raw power as some other benders, but he's got some solid feats
Unalaq, one of the higher tier benders here, wasn't stomping Mako and Bolin when he fought them, and that was just book 2 Mako and Bolin
That gif where they fight Unalaq had nothing that showed they can hold their own against him. Unalaq clearly was evading Mako's fireballs no problem and Unalaq could still easily take a majority over the duo. I never said Unalaq would stomp, i said everyone after Zuko would EITHER stomp or take a majority, and I'm not sure where Unalaq falls in that regard. His fight against Ghazan is probably his best feat, I'll give you that. In the end, I simply think that they aren't really powerful enough to face the masters/team-busters in this gauntlet. Good, just not good enough
They were evading/blocking many of his atracks too, and Book 2 Bolin was at least a tier below Book 4 Bolin. A bloodlusted lavabender is a major threat, he could possibly solo the earlier rounds
solo Zuko maybe. The rest I think not. Azula is more than once tier higher and Toph, Tenzin, and Korra would stomp. Katara and Unalaq would take a majority. I've seen all of Avatar and LOK and I think that would be the outcome
Round 4, the combination of instant-lightning and lavabending will be too much to handle for Toph along with the teamwork that the bros will bring the table. Mako is a fairly powerful firebender while Bolin's lavabending feats have proven to do well.
Mako will be more willing to kill at Round 5 because he's facing Unalaq and knows who he is, so instant-lightning zap ftw.
I feel Tenzin has the capability to take them both on due to being an airbending master and also because he proved that he can multi-task against the Red Lotus, which will prove useful here. He will make a quick job of Mako and he's too agile for Bolin's earthbending, while lava will keep some distance, Bolin will eventually be swept up.
solo Zuko maybe. The rest I think not. Azula is more than once tier higher and Toph, Tenzin, and Korra would stomp. Katara and Unalaq would take a majority. I've seen all of Avatar and LOK and I think that would be the outcome
Don't suppose you'd be willing to debate that?
Unalaq stands a better chance than Toph, Toph's more vulnerable to Mako's fire jets, and lava's a good counter for earth
well what makes you think Azula can take the two of them? Between Mako's offense and lightning and Bolin's defensive earthbending and lava battlefield control they're a dangerous combo, and even deadlier without morals
@arcus: Azula has fought more then 2 people at the same time before, so the teamwork thing won't be a huge advantage, her agility is much higher then both of them and I think she has more damage output as well, not to mention in the comics she starts doing instant lightning which will definitely help to at least cancel out that advantage for the team, I think she will eventually wear them down.
second round, was thinking they could lose at Katara, but with them bloodlusted and Katara not I don't really see that happening, so I said most likely Toph, because she has a lot more high end feats then those two put together, especially in the comics, where here seismic sense and Earth/metal bending improve to a mental degree (not that metal bending will help her here) but I think that Toph's superior firepower and the fact she will know what both are doing at all times should give her a solid majority, especially if she does that huge smoke screen thing, Toph 6-7/10. But if they get past Toph, which is a possibility, they aren't even gonna touch Tenzin, he is way to agile imo.
@just_banter: Azula has never actually faught full-on with 2 people at the same time, other than with Aang when Aang would hold back a lot. Her agility is not much higher than either of them, they're all about on-par with eachother if anything. How is damage output on her side when the bro's have fire, lightning, earth and lava on their side. The bro's are also adept benders with their elements. I don't believe Azula will wear them down considering Bolin can keep distance and block, while Mako can stay on the offence and when blood-lusted can one-shot. With the additional distance that lava will create, Bolin can attack from a distance too. '
And when has Azula used instant-lightning in the comics? Scans please.
Toph having better feats than both of the bro's combined is debatable. Not only that, but how does Toph have more superior firepower? Mako can boost himself with firebending ensuring his feet doesn't touch the ground, and Toph has to deal with lava too which will work against her seismic sense.
@llehdevil: Well, she has, she has fought the Kyoshi warriors, Aang, Sokka and Toph when the sun was down (which is probably what you're talking about their) and Zuko and Suki, her agility is much better then both of them, that's a given, I don't get how you are saying her and Bolin are on par in that department, Mako might be closer but he still isn't there yet, she has superior firepower because she has stronger showings then both of them, cover doesn't really help as whenever Aang used earth cover Azula blew right through it, lava could be tricky and that is one of the bigger problems for her too overcome but she can still do it, and Azula using instant lightning:
There are more then this but that should be sufficient proof.
Toph has better feats then the two because the stuff she has done is more powerful then what the brothers have done, once again, especially in the comics, where her seismic sense can hit Aang on an air spout and land on Appa as he's flying, because she heard him a couple seconds earlier, soo, yeah. Anyway, how will they get around the dust screen thing anyway? Bolin can't turn it to lava, and Mako isn't doing anything with it, as soon as that happens, its pretty much game over, or she could just launch them both in the air, Lava could be a problem but I think she will incap them before it becomes too much of a problem, Toph wins for a majority, their isn't getting around it imo, brothers take a few but Toph takes the most
@llehdevil: Well, she has, she has fought the Kyoshi warriors, Aang, Sokka and Toph when the sun was down (which is probably what you're talking about their) and Zuko and Suki
her agility is much better then both of them, that's a given, I don't get how you are saying her and Bolin are on par in that department, Mako might be closer but he still isn't there yet
This is a common misconception.
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Look how he's dodging all of the attacks of 3 waterbenders and pushes them all back by himself.
@llehdevil: her seismic sense can hit Aang on an air spout and land on Appa as he's flying, because she heard him a couple seconds earlier, soo, yeah.
What does the Aang-feat and the Appa-feat have to do with anything? Lava is a completely different elelment and it still stands that Toph lacks the capabilities to properly deal with it.
@llehdevil: Anyway, how will they get around the dust screen thing anyway? Bolin can't turn it to lava, and Mako isn't doing anything with it, as soon as that happens, its pretty much game over, or she could just launch them both in the air
Toph's done it only once before going up against 6 earth benders and has never shown to do it again even when facing against more than 2 benders. Even if she does, Bolin could surround him & Mako with lava. Done.
@llehdevil: Lava could be a problem but I think she will incap them before it becomes too much of a problem,
So you're saying Lava could be a problem but you're refusing to believe that Bolin will execute it early enough? He's done it many times before, early enough to save the day, and when his bro's life is in danger, he will most certainly use it. Hell a few prisoners he was rescuing who he barely knew were in trouble and he used it for them and prior to that, against them as well.
@llehdevil: Toph wins for a majority, their isn't getting around it imo, brothers take a few but Toph takes the most
So you're admitting the bros will take a few wins. How do you suppose the bros will win and why do you think they can't win every time with that scenario?
Yeah I still don't see how Mako>Tenzin. At all, lol
Less clear advantages have been interpreted as victories (ex. Zuko vs insane Azula in the Agni Kai). What's Azula ever done to be above Katara (assuming Katara has a decent water supply, of course)
@arcus: Amon vs Korra, Aang vs Ozai, even some pro-bending matches. In those cases one side was winning and lose in the end. Just saying that not always who has the upper hand wins.
I don't put Azula her, you that put Katara over Azula. For me they are in equal grounds. In this gauntlet I think Azula is a bigger threat to the brothers than Katara. She has fought with more than one characters at once, fought in equal grounds against season 2 Aang, she has fought against to different bendings at once and is more agile. Katara lacks agility and that is a problem here.
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