Majin Buu
Against Sani, Coco and Zebra
Location: West City
Abandoned, starting distance 50 feet.
Fitting Music:
Majin Buu
Against Sani, Coco and Zebra
Location: West City
Abandoned, starting distance 50 feet.
Fitting Music:
Fat Buu that got split from Kid Buu? He gets stomped horribly. Sani just ties him up if healing is too much. That version of Buu was maybe above SSJ2. If this is the version with all the power of Super Buu he could put up a fight but to be honest I don't think he could bring himself to fight seriously enough to win.
@sy8008: I think this is the second version you mentioned, I have seen people differentiate between them by callling them Fat Boo(Splited) and Majin Buu(The ''original''), but @deathhero61 should probably confirm which version it is.
I though Z characters where fodder to Toriko?
Only to the top ones. These 3 are no where near the top
@sy8008: I think this is the second version you mentioned, I have seen people differentiate between them by callling them Fat Boo(Splited) and Majin Buu(The ''original''), but @deathhero61 should probably confirm which version it is.
Honestly, whenever I plan on using him in debates, unless absolutely necessary, I just assume whatever the strongest version of "Fat Buu" is. And I would assume Current Buu is stronger due to his training before the TOP. Plus Goku confirmed he got a lot stronger and faster but never specified on how much stronger he got or if he was stronger than when he first appeared.
I though Z characters where fodder to Toriko?
Specifically top tiers like Toriko, Acacia, Joie, Midora. IMHO none of the Kings listed here would be able to take him on solo. Poison from Coco would at best slow him down, Sani wouldn't be able to put him down unless he tried to devour him. Zebra is their best bet, especially while working in conjunction with his fellow Kings.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
Hercule Satan tried to feed him poison, failed to work, plus Buu is virtually unkillable, in the DB verse poison has always been a go to option to assassinate the strongest characters in the series, and has failed time and time again. Jaco The Galatic Patrolman wanted to use the extinction bomb to kill Goku as a child, but knew that races like the Saiyans and Frieza's race would be immune to the virus, due to being to naturally hardy and strong. I wanna make note that hte extinction bomb is a virus made to wipe out entire species. If the virus wouldn't affect Frieza and Goku, I don't think it would work on Buu either. Has Coco's poison ever killed someone with healing abilities as potent as Buu's?
Edit: Plus Coco would have to tag Buu with his poison attacks, and Buu has ways to defend or repel them.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question? dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
I think it depends on whether or not they can deal with his regen(Coco does has some nasty poisons that can also adapt to immune systems).
Wonder what would happen if they tried eating him
@marc_55: That's a fair assessment is it not?
Majin boo eats them or absorbs them. Boo can also copy their techniques on the fly or if they piss him off enough he'll just blow up the planet. The fight is in boo's favor but feats from the kings could change my opinion because fat boo is pretty stupid.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
Hercule Satan tried to feed him poison, failed to work,
Okay...? Coco has addicted people who eat poison for fun to his strains. He's also killed someone who sips lava for fun.
plus Buu is virtually unkillable,
Which is nothing beyond his amazing healing factor and longevity. Tells me nothing about his poison resistance.
in the DB verse poison has always been a go to option to assassinate the strongest characters in the series, and has failed time and time again. Jaco The Galatic Patrolman wanted to use the extinction bomb to kill Goku as a child, but knew that races like the Saiyans and Frieza's race would be immune to the virus, due to being to naturally hardy and strong.
I wanna make note that hte extinction bomb is a virus made to wipe out entire species. If the virus wouldn't affect Frieza and Goku, I don't think it would work on Buu either.
Not even sure how an extinction bomb can relate to poison. Especially Coco's, which is addictive to people who casually resist intense poisons by specifically creating antibodies against them.
That's on top of his already fatal variants, which can branch and search pfor poisons fatal to someone with numerous antibodies, pretty good regen and poison themselves.
Has Coco's poison ever killed someone with healing abilities as potent as Buu's?
It's shown effective against people who can already resist poison more deadly than what was likely used against Buu, have full cellular control of their body and actively create antibodies against Coco's lethal strains.
Edit: Plus Coco would have to tag Buu with his poison attacks, and Buu has ways to defend or repel them.
Don't see why tagging him would be a problem.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question?
It is.
dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
Which is great, but doesn't say much about actual resistances.
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
Coco's weaker poisons are potent enough to melt skin off bone on contact. It doesn't really have to enter his skin, just corrode him from the outside in.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question?
It is.
dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
Which is great, but doesn't say much about actual resistances.
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
Coco's weaker poisons are potent enough to melt skin off bone on contact. It doesn't really have to enter his skin, just corrode him from the outside in.
buu doesnt have skin or bone
he is of an unkown substance that has absolutely no blood circulating inside of it, he is made out of the same material as his pants and shirt and cape
this is the most hilarious argument i've ever seen agaisnt a dbz character in my entire life you really want buu to lose don't you
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question?
It is.
dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
Which is great, but doesn't say much about actual resistances.
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
Coco's weaker poisons are potent enough to melt skin off bone on contact. It doesn't really have to enter his skin, just corrode him from the outside in.
buu doesnt have skin or bone
he is of an unkown substance that has absolutely no blood circulating inside of it, he is made out of the same material as his pants and shirt and cape
this is the most hilarious argument i've ever seen agaisnt a dbz character in my entire life you really want buu to lose don't you
huh, never thought of it that way....
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question?
It is.
dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
Which is great, but doesn't say much about actual resistances.
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
Coco's weaker poisons are potent enough to melt skin off bone on contact. It doesn't really have to enter his skin, just corrode him from the outside in.
buu doesnt have skin or bone
he is of an unkown substance that has absolutely no blood circulating inside of it, he is made out of the same material as his pants and shirt and cape
this is the most hilarious argument i've ever seen agaisnt a dbz character in my entire life you really want buu to lose don't you
huh, never thought of it that way....
nah don't worry, buu's pants and gloves need poison resistance feats now
while we're at it can we get some poison resistance feats for flubber from the flubber movie?
Does he have resistance to the Kings' strongest hax moves, like Sani's Satan Hair or Zebra's Death Voice or Coco's Devil Poison?
Do any of them have resistance to Buu's molecular/matter manipulation? He could easily zap them and turn them into candy, clay or anything he desires.
@deathhero61: How does he resist Coco's poison?
is this even a real question?
It is.
dude is made out of rubber and has an insane healing factor
Which is great, but doesn't say much about actual resistances.
proof he has blood for the poison to enter in the first place? LMAO
Coco's weaker poisons are potent enough to melt skin off bone on contact. It doesn't really have to enter his skin, just corrode him from the outside in.
buu doesnt have skin or bone
he is of an unkown substance that has absolutely no blood circulating inside of it, he is made out of the same material as his pants and shirt and cape
this is the most hilarious argument i've ever seen agaisnt a dbz character in my entire life you really want buu to lose don't you
huh, never thought of it that way....
nah don't worry, buu's pants and gloves need poison resistance feats now
while we're at it can we get some poison resistance feats for flubber from the flubber movie?
I think you are overexaggerating. But you did make a good point.
What are these guys resistance to magic such as turning into chocolate. Buu can dish out and take a lot of damage but if they get turned into chocolate it's bye bye.
Buu solos, they can't counter his hax and Fat Buu was stated to be able to destroy the Planet with his breath if he went too far.
Does he have resistance to the Kings' strongest hax moves, like Sani's Satan Hair or Zebra's Death Voice or Coco's Devil Poison?
Do any of them have resistance to Buu's molecular/matter manipulation? He could easily zap them and turn them into candy, clay or anything he desires.
These Kings can use Back Channels actively in combat and fought Joie for over an hour, I think they can avoid getting tagged.
Does he have resistance to the Kings' strongest hax moves, like Sani's Satan Hair or Zebra's Death Voice or Coco's Devil Poison?
Do any of them have resistance to Buu's molecular/matter manipulation? He could easily zap them and turn them into candy, clay or anything he desires.
These Kings can use Back Channels actively in combat and fought Joie for over an hour, I think they can avoid getting tagged.
I kind of forgot about that lmao. All the other characters including the Sani, Coco and Zebra were overshadowed by Toriko even though an arc before they were on the same standing as Toriko. Toriko felt hella rushed near the end.
Buu solos, they can't counter his hax and Fat Buu was stated to be able to destroy the Planet with his breath if he went too far.
I mean, that's the argument, whether or not Buu can take them on by himself lol. As for destroying the planet with his breath, it makes me wonder if Buu himself can bust the planet with his strikes if something as ridiculous as breathing could cause that much destruction. Buu is weird and I love it.
@deathhero61: In the author's defense, he did give a somewhat plausible though cliche reason for that: Toriko happens to be the Big Bad's son and is thus genetically on a whole different level to the other Kings. :P
50:50 team can just as easily win via hax
But in genral magic >>> hax , buu has city range AOE candy ray
50:50 team can just as easily win via hax
But in genral magic >>> hax , buu has city range AOE candy ray
I completely forgot about that. Buu is actually pretty busted.
buu doesnt have skin or bone
Are you intentionally missing the point? He has an outer layer of his make up, said make up has no noted poison resistance, and certainly not to the kinds Coco has to offer.
Bone isn't relevant, melting it off is. As it means the poisons do direct damage on contact with said person, skin or not isn't really changing much about the point.
he is of an unkown substance that has absolutely no blood circulating inside of it, he is made out of the same material as his pants and shirt and cape
Yes, and none of that is a resistance or immunity to anything. Unless it was noted, which it was not. Unless there were feats, which there are not.
this is the most hilarious argument i've ever seen agaisnt a dbz character in my entire life
Coming from you, I can't really take that as an insult.
you really want buu to lose don't you
I don't want Buu, or Coco for that matter, to do anything. I want you, or someone else, to produce the necessary feats. That's all. If Buu wins he wins, but my self appointed job is to argue favor for the Team. Duh.
huh, never thought of it that way....
Might that be because it tells me nothing relevant, at all?
Does he have resistance to the Kings' strongest hax moves, like Sani's Satan Hair or Zebra's Death Voice or Coco's Devil Poison?
Do any of them have resistance to Buu's molecular/matter manipulation?
They don't, the most they have is total cellular control on their bodies to amp power, defense, healing rates and strengthened combo attacks.
Even then, it's shown limits.
He could easily zap them and turn them into candy, clay or anything he desires.
Just as they could easily perform any of their various haxes and attacks.
Does he have resistance to the Kings' strongest hax moves, like Sani's Satan Hair or Zebra's Death Voice or Coco's Devil Poison?
No, he doesn't.
It's up to you to prove that he has an "outer layer", which directly contradicting everything shown in the show seeing as how he's made out of the same exact material as his pants and gloves, and is shown to have no layers of skin.
You're saying I need to prove he has poison resistance of some arbitrary level when you need to prove that poison would damage or work on something so entirely not grounded in reality to the point where it's nothing like any other living being we've ever seen. Poison has already been tried on Buu oddly enough, and it wasn't resisted but completely ignored. Poison obviously doesn't work on someone who is made out of pants. He has no skin blood or eternal organs, scales, or anything for the poison to enter or touch to effect.
Your argument is ridiculous and is holding Buu to the most ridiculous standard while holding Coco to literally no standard assuming his poison can ever effect beings such as Buu when poisons have already been proven to be entirely innefective to it. It's made out of magic.
Clear and implicit bias in favour of the team for whatever reason.
A bit weird considering the self appointed job should be to be intellectually honest with yourself and everyone else in the thread without having a definite bias towards one verse and unreasonably holding one side of the argument to a much higher standard than any you've made so far.
Can we get some poison resistance feats for Flubber too?
This arguement is a joke.
And Buu stomps. No answer to him blowing up the planet and moving on to the next one.
@thedeathstar: Buu solos? He's alone here lol.
@iusemycajonas: So, is your entire argument just his body is just somehow immune to poisons that corrode on touch? Even though his body can directly be affected by physicals and energy attacks?
The flubber thing is cool, but you realize Coco has resisted poisons, with his own, that melted the ground into a sea of poisons. His poison are easily potent enough to melt any kind of real world materials, as they damage and corrode things far more durable on contact. So, any feats of poison resistance remotely on Coco's level guy?
You're implying a random man-made poison suddenly = to Coco's poison is nonsensical at best. One showing of resistance is not a blanket immunity, please realize this.
That aside, Coco also has an addictive variant, which he can just addict Buu too. Allowing his team either consume him with their hair, or try to kill him with death sound. Or take that win through addiction.
Not to mention with back channels to augment theirs speeds, they should be far faster than Buu. Allowing for a chance to see if these tactics work, if nothing else.
Of course, I figure this will be going in circles. So, we'll see how long I care to stick around.
@iusemycajonas: So, is your entire argument just body is just somehow immune to poisons that corrode on touch? Even though he body can directly be affected by physicals and energy attacks?
The flubber thing is cool, but you realize Coco has resisted poisons, with his own, that melted the ground into a sea of poisons. His poison are easily potent enough to melt any kind of real world materials, as they damage and corrode things far more durable. So, any feats of poison resistance guy?
It's not poison he's using if he's melting real world materials. That's all you had to say lol.
It's acid despite what the series is calling it.
Buu is immune to poison but poison resistance feats are unecessary for this move, or else you'd have things like Moongooses and Hedgehogs resisting it. You're really looking for acid resistance feats. To which I say of Coco's acid who has it failed to work agaisnt and for what reason? What is the upper limit to it's effects within the show?
That aside, Coco also has an addictive variant, which he can just addict Buu too. Allowing his team either consume him with their hair, or try to kill him with death sound. Or take that win through addiction.
Covered this earlier, poison WILL be innefective. There is no brain for the addictive poison to contaminate, you need specific magics to loosely control what it does, and even then those don't even work if it decides to resist.
The acid however, we're unsure until you provide feats to it's upper limits. Because as of now you're giving me a NLF when it comes to the acid.
Not to mention with back channels to augment theirs speeds, they should be far faster than speed. Allowing for a chance to see if these tactics work, if nothing else.
I'll just agree here because speed debates are boring to me, and speed isn't really even relevant in this fight as there are a phlethora of ways Buu can win out agaisnt faster opponents which he's already done in Z.
Of course, I figure this will be going in circles. So, we'll see how long I care to stick around.
Only reason it was going in circles earlier is because you were misusing the definition of poison lol. Seems like a pretty straight line now to me.
@iusemycajonas: What? It's poison, literally poison. Buu has no resistance for such poisons, so done deal.
Coco doesn't have acid, it's poison. Buu doesn't have any immunity, not sure where you got that idea. But unless you can support it, it's wrong.
@iusemycajonas: What? It's poison, literally poison. Buu has no resistance for such poisons, so done deal.
Coco doesn't have acid, it's poison. Buu doesn't have any immunity, not sure where you got that idea. But unless you can support it, it's wrong.
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if it's poison it doesn't effect buu as buu isn't a living organism
if it's acid which is what you're describing show feats for it's upper limit first or else you have a NLF
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THIS ISN'T ROCKET SCIENCE LMAO
Buu still stomps.
@thedeathstar: Buu solos? He's alone here lol.
Buu alone solos*
And lol at any poison in existence working on Buu.
@gaoron: Telekinesis is so under used in DB. I miss vegeta and goku using TK
@demongod_pablo: Goku never used tk offensively if I recall correctly but I do miss saiyan saga/early Namek Vegeta who was blowing people up with a gesture.
@gaoron: you’re right goku only used it to get a cup in the hospital I believe. I also think piccolo used tk in a filler episode he picked up a pyramid I think
@iusemycajonas: I feel like I'm missing some joke here, it's poison. Buu isn't a living organism now? Then what would someone clearly alive, can die, feel pain, eat, sleep, ect. be considered?
Please, there's nothing implying he wouldn't be affected. Therefore he likely would be.
Buu solos, they can't counter his hax and Fat Buu was stated to be able to destroy the Planet with his breath if he went too far.
@iusemycajonas: I feel like I'm missing some joke here, it's poison.
English your second language? I gave you the definition of poison already. You're describing an acid. Which is a better stance for you to be taking considering there's no way you can poison Buu.
@iusemycajonas: Buu isn't a living organism now? Then what would someone clearly alive, can die, feel pain, eat, sleep, ect. be considered?
No, he's not clearly alive because he doesn't breathe or have a heart, or any other biological components or necesities.
He can only get destroyed through complete vaporization.
The pain Buu feels is psychological which is why he has no issue ripping his own body parts apart, and why while in his Kid Buu form and uninfluenced by other beings that do register pain mentally he never makes any sort of indication that he's hurt. Only after he absorbs other beings does he "feel" pain, in reality he thinks it.
He doesn't need sleep. He's already stayed up countless years blowing up planet to planet without stopping.
I don't know what the etc. means but it also probably has an explanation that you'd know if you'd actually watched/read the show.
Please, there's nothing implying he wouldn't be affected. Therefore he likely would be.
"hurdur i like to use phrases i learned off the internet to seem cool while ignoring this mountain of evidence that is obviously pointing to majin buu not being able to be affected by poison including when he showed a complete immunity to it when hercule tried to poison him hurdur"
Nothing? Sure buddy.
Sh**'s tuff, arguing that animated rubber can get poisoned. LMFAO.
Speaking of animated rubber, it stomps. Destroys team with ease.
Boo has complete control over his entire body. He cloned himself to the size of a cell to fight goku when they were in his stomach. He could literally reject the poison from spreading in his body, though I doubt it would effect him at all because Boo has a completely different biology than toriko humans/beasts
I gotta give this to Buu. Sani, Coco, and Zebra weren't really that impressive in the final fight, and they were called small flies while Toriko and Star were called large flies and that was before Toriko's final power ups, so they don't really scale to him. They were probably still well below the 8 kings. Also hair, sound, and poison really won't be effective against Buu while Buu can turn them into candy, absorb them, or blow up the planet, and that's if he can't just out right kill them.
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