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#101  Edited By thebatmobile12

Finally someone was able to checkmate Bane.

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#102  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Magneto got blitzed by Quicksilver whom Spider-Man beat. Daken disappeared on Spider-Man so he does it to Magneto and stabs him from behind cause he won't see it coming.

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#103  Edited By kajitatsu

@daak1212 said:

@Illuminatus said:

At least there is some nuance and wittiness to Bane's trolling. I can't say as much for others....

Tide goes in, tide goes out....cant explain that.

Lol I see what you did there.

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Yeah, I'm through with this thread. Already proved Daken is far faster than Magneto could ever hope to cope with, not my problem if people can't or don't want to see it. There's only one outcome to this fight:

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Seems legit.

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#104  Edited By MarvelGrey

Hey Daken how many Nimrod Sentinels did you take out?

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#105  Edited By Saren

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Hey Daken how many Nimrod Sentinels did you take out?

Funny, it only took three regular Sentinels to send Magneto running for his life.

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Hey Mags, how many Asgardians did you take out?

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#106  Edited By morpheus_  Moderator
I hadn't noticed the high quality of debating taking place in this thread before locking it. 
 
Bane and the paragons of massive intellect he's up against can continue their work.
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#107  Edited By Thinkagain

@CitizenBane said:

@joshmightbe: Fail, Daken has no adamantium.

Fail, Daken has iron in his blood.

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@joshmightbe said:

@CitizenBane: Daken can't do faster than light attacks because he doesn't have super human speed

ORLY?

Marvel ranks Deadpool at 7 in the speed department, highest possible rating btw, and that means he's faster than light:

And yet Deadpool can't lay a finger on Daken.

2+2 =4So you think Magneto can react to lightspeed attacks? He can't even react to Mach 5 attacks.

LOL, Daken heck no one not wolverine, not captain america- noone! in marvel can face a none retconned Deadpool in combat(fighter types). Deadpool in the beginning wasn't brain damage crazy and he didn't "talk smack to distract you" he talked trash as he beat you down. He was retconned so other heroes could shine by "beating deadpool" and upping their strength level and reducing his because he was untouchable. Even in this pick what's happening in this pic is Daken is using his pheromones to mess with DP's perception. Without it in a H2H or weapons or whatever Daken loses badily even against "crazy brain damage" deadpool. It was a bad choice to use this pic to prove your point as you misunderstood what's happening in it.

That said Daken's pheromones wouldn't reach magneto and the battle would be over in a instant before Daken could react. Daken doesn't possess super speed.

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#109  Edited By Saren

@Thinkagain said:

@CitizenBane said:

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@joshmightbe said:

@CitizenBane: Daken can't do faster than light attacks because he doesn't have super human speed

ORLY?

Marvel ranks Deadpool at 7 in the speed department, highest possible rating btw, and that means he's faster than light:

And yet Deadpool can't lay a finger on Daken.

2+2 =4So you think Magneto can react to lightspeed attacks? He can't even react to Mach 5 attacks.

LOL, Daken heck no one not wolverine, not captain america- noone! in marvel can face a none retconned Deadpool in combat(fighter types). Deadpool in the beginning wasn't brain damage crazy and he didn't "talk smack to distract you" he talked trash as he beat you down. He was retconned so other heroes could shine by "beating deadpool" and upping their strength level and reducing his because he was untouchable. Even in this pick what's happening in this pic is Daken is using his pheromones to mess with DP's perception. Without it in a H2H or weapons or whatever Daken loses badily even against "crazy brain damage" deadpool. It was a bad choice to use this pic to prove your point as you misunderstood what's happening in it.

That said Daken's pheromones wouldn't reach magneto and the battle would be over in a instant before Daken could react. Daken doesn't possess super speed.

All I get from this is that you're upset that someone as fast as Deadpool couldn't keep up with Daken.

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#110  Edited By Bo88gdan

Magneto Stomps

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#112  Edited By Thinkagain

@CitizenBane said:

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@Thinkagain said:

@CitizenBane said:

@joshmightbe said:

@CitizenBane: Daken can't do faster than light attacks because he doesn't have super human speed

ORLY?

Marvel ranks Deadpool at 7 in the speed department, highest possible rating btw, and that means he's faster than light:

And yet Deadpool can't lay a finger on Daken.

2+2 =4So you think Magneto can react to lightspeed attacks? He can't even react to Mach 5 attacks.

LOL, Daken heck no one not wolverine, not captain america- noone! in marvel can face a none retconned Deadpool in combat(fighter types). Deadpool in the beginning wasn't brain damage crazy and he didn't "talk smack to distract you" he talked trash as he beat you down. He was retconned so other heroes could shine by "beating deadpool" and upping their strength level and reducing his because he was untouchable. Even in this pick what's happening in this pic is Daken is using his pheromones to mess with DP's perception. Without it in a H2H or weapons or whatever Daken loses badily even against "crazy brain damage" deadpool. It was a bad choice to use this pic to prove your point as you misunderstood what's happening in it.

That said Daken's pheromones wouldn't reach magneto and the battle would be over in a instant before Daken could react. Daken doesn't possess super speed.

All I get from this is that you're upset that someone as fast as Deadpool couldn't keep up with Daken.

It's more like I'm disappointed with Marvel for retconning deadpoolso they could push up busters like wolverine his pup, captain america and etc. As far as Daken vs DP it didn't bother me at all it just goes to show how bad comics are getting that at the end Wolverine says he "let deadpool do those things to him to setup Daken"

Anyway you have to first prove that Daken does if fact have super speed.

Second how he would move when Magneto freezes the iron in his blood to (take your pick) Make him explode or send him into the atmosphere or crush him.

I know your trying to bait people(self included) but I take great pleasure in killing trolls and though you may respond with jibberish. As long as you know that I know just stamped five letters on your forehead (begins with P ends in D) And since I'm such a nice guy I took the liberty of listing Daken's powers(from marvel):

Daken has superhuman strength, reflexes, endurance, longevity and sensory acuity, and an advance healing factor (the extent of which is yet to be determined). He possesses three retractable bone claws housed within each hand: two dorsal and one palmar below the wrist.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Daken#ixzz1yhqRBt2b

Daken's abilities

Daken can disguise his own scent to the point where even Wolverine's hyper-senses cannot detect him. He is a trained assassin highly skilled in espionage, and was taught many forms of armed combat by Cyber. He is also an excellent tracker, and is very fluent in German.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Daken#ixzz1yhqkTaSr

Absent is super speed. Not that it would matter.

Ciao

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#113  Edited By Saren

@Thinkagain said:

@CitizenBane said:

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@Thinkagain said:

@CitizenBane said:

@joshmightbe said:

@CitizenBane: Daken can't do faster than light attacks because he doesn't have super human speed

ORLY?

Marvel ranks Deadpool at 7 in the speed department, highest possible rating btw, and that means he's faster than light:

And yet Deadpool can't lay a finger on Daken.

2+2 =4So you think Magneto can react to lightspeed attacks? He can't even react to Mach 5 attacks.

LOL, Daken heck no one not wolverine, not captain america- noone! in marvel can face a none retconned Deadpool in combat(fighter types). Deadpool in the beginning wasn't brain damage crazy and he didn't "talk smack to distract you" he talked trash as he beat you down. He was retconned so other heroes could shine by "beating deadpool" and upping their strength level and reducing his because he was untouchable. Even in this pick what's happening in this pic is Daken is using his pheromones to mess with DP's perception. Without it in a H2H or weapons or whatever Daken loses badily even against "crazy brain damage" deadpool. It was a bad choice to use this pic to prove your point as you misunderstood what's happening in it.

That said Daken's pheromones wouldn't reach magneto and the battle would be over in a instant before Daken could react. Daken doesn't possess super speed.

All I get from this is that you're upset that someone as fast as Deadpool couldn't keep up with Daken.

It's more like I'm disappointed with Marvel for retconning deadpoolso they could push up busters like wolverine his pup, captain america and etc. As far as Daken vs DP it didn't bother me at all it just goes to show how bad comics are getting that at the end Wolverine says he "let deadpool do those things to him to setup Daken"

Anyway you have to first prove that Daken does if fact have super speed.

Second how he would move when Magneto freezes the iron in his blood to (take your pick) Make him explode or send him into the atmosphere or crush him.

I know your trying to bait people(self included) but I take great pleasure in killing trolls and though you may respond with jibberish. As long as you know that I know just stamped five letters on your forehead (begins with P ends in D) And since I'm such a nice guy I took the liberty of listing Daken's powers(from marvel):

Daken has superhuman strength, reflexes, endurance, longevity and sensory acuity, and an advance healing factor (the extent of which is yet to be determined). He possesses three retractable bone claws housed within each hand: two dorsal and one palmar below the wrist.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Daken#ixzz1yhqRBt2b

Daken's abilities

Daken can disguise his own scent to the point where even Wolverine's hyper-senses cannot detect him. He is a trained assassin highly skilled in espionage, and was taught many forms of armed combat by Cyber. He is also an excellent tracker, and is very fluent in German.

More on Marvel.com: http://marvel.com/universe/Daken#ixzz1yhqkTaSr

Absent is super speed. Not that it would matter.

Ciao

Yawn. It's sad that you need to copy/paste from a wiki and then claim you're killing trolls. Tsk.

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#114  Edited By Saren

Thor is a lightspeeder with microsecond reaction time. Everyone knows this.

Thor himself admitted that Wolverine was faster than him.

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And Daken is so fast Logan can't even SEE him move.

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Thus by logical extrapolation we can conclude that Daken is faster than Thor, who is much faster than Magneto, who cannot even keep up with Quicksilver.

Really, what part of this is so hard to swallow?

Also, Daken has owned Asgardians.

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You know who else is Asgardian? Odin. You think Magneto can beat Odin? Not likely.

I hate to repeat myself, but it's still a sad state of affairs when you can post so many scans and proof for your claims, but the Magneto fanboys can only resort to copy/pasting wikis and calling you a troll. Tsk.

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#115  Edited By ComicStooge

Face it people, CitizenBane has proven you all wrong.

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#116  Edited By Deranged Midget

This thread...

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#117  Edited By cattlebattle

Man, and I thought I wasted time with stupid BS..........that guy should get a medal.

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#119  Edited By JediWaffles

CitizenBane, you sir, are quite the troll.

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Lol at how the other dude gets a warning and this asshat gets to carry on with his blatant trolling, good job mods.

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#121  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

Current Daken is dead so I guess Mags wins?

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#122  Edited By Saren

@spiderbat87 said:

Current Daken is dead so I guess Mags wins?

Daken wants you to think he's dead, that way his enemies will slack off.

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#123  Edited By cattlebattle
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Lol at how the other dude gets a warning and this asshat gets to carry on with his blatant trolling, good job mods.

That's Comicvine for ya...
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#124  Edited By jodema

Someone really stated that Daken and Deadpool are faster than light... Light. Incredulous.

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#125  Edited By Saren

Is it not commonly accepted on ComicVine that Wolverine is faster than Batman?

Batman has lightspeed reaction time:

Dodging beams of light
Dodging beams of light

If Wolverine is faster than Batman.....well, connect the dots.

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#127  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

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LOL, Daken heck no one not wolverine, not captain america- noone! in marvel can face a none retconned Deadpool in combat(fighter types). Deadpool in the beginning wasn't brain damage crazy and he didn't "talk smack to distract you" he talked trash as he beat you down. He was retconned so other heroes could shine by "beating deadpool" and upping their strength level and reducing his because he was untouchable. Even in this pick what's happening in this pic is Daken is using his pheromones to mess with DP's perception. Without it in a H2H or weapons or whatever Daken loses badily even against "crazy brain damage" deadpool. It was a bad choice to use this pic to prove your point as you misunderstood what's happening in it.

That said Daken's pheromones wouldn't reach magneto and the battle would be over in a instant before Daken could react. Daken doesn't possess super speed.

First off you're wrong about Daken's abilities. The disappearing trick is a technique taught by Romulus, not his pheromones. It was never mentioned to be his pheromones and Daken has done it before he had conscious control of his pheromones and even did it in his fight with Spider-Man before they took affect signified when they showed some green bubbles around Spider-Man's face.

And Deadpool is FTL.

Cyclops' blasts move at light speed.

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And Cyclops has tagged the really fast people like the Northstar and Quicksilver.

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But Deadpool on the other hand, makes Cyclops look like a loser easily dodging Cyclops' blasts and even doing so while Surge and Domino are shooting at him. So he easily dodge bullets, easily dodge lightning and easily dodge a light speed attack allllll at the same time.

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So yeah, legit speedsters and one nearing light speed couldn't react to an optic blast but Deadpool did which does match nicely along with Bane's graph. Daken whooped Deadpool and he couldn't see his attack because Daken is always where isn't looking. Wolverine didn't see it coming and he has dodged Cyclops blasts so he is FTL and obviously his son inherited his FTL Wolverine like reflexes.

Spider-Man also didn't see it coming and he has spidey sense to dodge anything like optic blasts and Spider-Man actually beat Pietro while Magneto just gets floored by him in a single punch.

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Daken's skill is just too great here since ability was never mentioned to involve pheromones and is a technique taught to him by Romulus and my scans refer to what I mentioned earlier about Spider-Man not being affected by pheromones yet and Daken still performed his disappearing act. Magneto is too low skilled to win here. Magneto can see which puts him at distinct disadvantage cause where he is looking, Daken will not be there, he will be behind and he snikts him from the rear end.

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#128  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@CitizenBane said:

Is it not commonly accepted on ComicVine that Wolverine is faster than Batman?

Batman has lightspeed reaction time:

Dodging beams of light
Dodging beams of light

If Wolverine is faster than Batman.....well, connect the dots.

Agreed. Wolverine and Deadpool have dodged Cyclops' optic blasts before easily and they move at light speed. This obviously makes them FTL and Daken just inherited his father's FTL reflexes.

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#129  Edited By Saren

@god_spawn: I am glad there are still those on the Vine willing to use reason rather than descending into fanboyism and insults. Kudos, sir.

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#130  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@CitizenBane: You are welcome, kind sir. Maybe the voice of a hall of fame debater, like myself, will finally silence the nay sayers. People just don't understand how powerful Daken is.

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#131  Edited By FourthDeity

@ComicStooge said:

Face it people, CitizenBane has proven you all wrong.

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#132  Edited By Static Shock

@god_spawn: @CitizenBane: You two are joking about that FTL stuff right?

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#133  Edited By X35

Daken would destroy Magneto. He is louder, angrier, and has access to a time machine!! Daken would slice and dice Magneto like SUSHI!!! What's Magneto gonna do? Drop a metal bookshelf on him? Yeah, Daken can dodge bookshelves because he's a ninja!! Magneto is an old man, out with the old geezers and in with the young blood!!

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#134  Edited By Saren

Daken is also infinitely smarter than Magneto, since he once convinced the Fantastic Four (including Reed Richards) that he was dead, even though he was actually alive.

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#135  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

Daken tricked a demon Wolverine (so he was amped and is originally at FTL) that was soloing the X-Men, including Magneto, Namor and even Ghost Rider.

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Enough of the Jokes old skool Magnus shreds Daken like in the scans....And current Magneto crushes the X-mansion on him then lobes his head off with a metallic disk.....Daken's only shot is his pheromones where he'll have to be closer than 30ft

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#138  Edited By darktiger

Magneto wins can someone comment on my battle thread Warpath vs Iron fist and upload a picture of warpath my computer is running slow and make sure to comment on it

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#139  Edited By Queso6p4

@god_spawn said:

@CitizenBane said:

Is it not commonly accepted on ComicVine that Wolverine is faster than Batman?

Batman has lightspeed reaction time:

Dodging beams of light
Dodging beams of light

If Wolverine is faster than Batman.....well, connect the dots.

Agreed. Wolverine and Deadpool have dodged Cyclops' optic blasts before easily and they move at light speed. This obviously makes them FTL and Daken just inherited his father's FTL reflexes.

Given this, then...

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#140  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Queso6p4 said:

@god_spawn said:

@CitizenBane said:

Is it not commonly accepted on ComicVine that Wolverine is faster than Batman?

Batman has lightspeed reaction time:

Dodging beams of light
Dodging beams of light

If Wolverine is faster than Batman.....well, connect the dots.

Agreed. Wolverine and Deadpool have dodged Cyclops' optic blasts before easily and they move at light speed. This obviously makes them FTL and Daken just inherited his father's FTL reflexes.

Given this, then...

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Psh, that was PIS cause Cyclops was focusing on other people too and Magneto admits he only got lucky in that 2nd scan.

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#141  Edited By texasdeathmatch
@darktiger said:

Magneto wins can someone comment on my battle thread Warpath vs Iron fist and upload a picture of warpath my computer is running slow and make sure to comment on it

Warpath loses terribly. There you go.
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#142  Edited By Queso6p4

@god_spawn: I'll concede that but it doesn't change the fact that he took Magneto by surprise but Magneto was still able to produce a shield to block his light speed attack. Plus even if he was focused on other people his beam is still light speed.

Edit: He is also at least able to track people who move at light speed (when he tracked Ms. Marvel back in the 80s), but this doesn't respond to your FTL point.

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#143  Edited By Floopay

@god_spawn: @CitizenBane: Daken is FTL because Deadpool is ranked 7 and 7 means FTL. WHAT!?

Just, WHAT!?

I'm baffled, please tell me none of you are serious! Deadpool is NOT, I repeat NOT FTL. Marvel is NOT stating that he is FTL. Daken is NOT FTL, because he was faster than Wade on one occasion, doesn't make him FTL it makes him faster than another peak human who is NOT FTL.

Bah! I just....I don't even know where to start.

First of all, Wolverine has beaten people who are well above him on multiple occasions, he's almost as bad a PIS machine as Batman and SA Supes. Wolverine has beaten the Silver Surfer, knocked Hulk around, knocked over Galactus with a single punch, and so many others. However, he's lost to the likes of Deadpool (multiple times, but beaten him as well), Spiderman, Magneto, Cyclops (twice I believe), Colossus, Hulk, Sabertooth (beaten him as well), etc. etc.

Second of all, Deadpool is not FTL!!! Marvel ranks anybody who uses teleportation or teleportation devices as a 7 on the speed scale!

Third, Magneto at this point is well above Daken in almost everyway. I don't know why he's not Omega-Class yet. Daken will get shredded before he has a chance to think about doing anything.

Dodging a bullet is not FTL reaction timing. It's not even that impressive anymore, even at point blank. Shang Chi has done it, Iron Fist has done it, Deadpool has done it, in fact, I'd be hard pressed to find a street leveler who hasn't done that yet these days.

I really hope that this was a joke, because I'm reading through this and just completely baffled.

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Floopay

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@Queso6p4: But Cyclops had to turn his neck which he is not FTL. He just dodged Cyclops aim while a beam was focused on someone else, he dodged a neck crane. And Magneto in the next scan still heard Cyclops so as he heard him he could have activated his shield by the time Cyclops fired his blast allowing him to get it up in time. That didn't show he has FTL reflexes. He just shows he can react faster than Cyclops himself.

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#145  Edited By Shawnbaby

Daken loses. Horribly.  
There isn't a single instance of him handling a Super-Human on Magneto' level. 
He is barley in Spider-Man's league. He is not in the league of one of the most powerful Omega Class Mutants on Earth. 
Magneto can kill him with nothing more than a thought.  
 
I can't imagine why this hasn't been locked yet.

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@god_spawn: @CitizenBane: Daken is FTL because Deadpool is ranked 7 and 7 means FTL. WHAT!?

Just, WHAT!?

I'm baffled, please tell me none of you are serious! Deadpool is NOT, I repeat NOT FTL. Marvel is NOT stating that he is FTL. Daken is NOT FTL, because he was faster than Wade on one occasion, doesn't make him FTL it makes him faster than another peak human who is NOT FTL.

Bah! I just....I don't even know where to start.

First of all, Wolverine has beaten people who are well above him on multiple occasions, he's almost as bad a PIS machine as Batman and SA Supes. Wolverine has beaten the Silver Surfer, knocked Hulk around, knocked over Galactus with a single punch, and so many others. However, he's lost to the likes of Deadpool (multiple times, but beaten him as well), Spiderman, Magneto, Cyclops (twice I believe), Colossus, Hulk, Sabertooth (beaten him as well), etc. etc.

Second of all, Deadpool is not FTL!!! Marvel ranks anybody who uses teleportation or teleportation devices as a 7 on the speed scale!

Third, Magneto at this point is well above Daken in almost everyway. I don't know why he's not Omega-Class yet. Daken will get shredded before he has a chance to think about doing anything.

Dodging a bullet is not FTL reaction timing. It's not even that impressive anymore, even at point blank. Shang Chi has done it, Iron Fist has done it, Deadpool has done it, in fact, I'd be hard pressed to find a street leveler who hasn't done that yet these days.

I really hope that this was a joke, because I'm reading through this and just completely baffled.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

I just finished the last 4 pages, I stopped at page 4 and went on to comment.

Honestly, that was the best read I've had in a long time. I was laughing super hard. You know what, I hope you weren't kidding. You managed to pick the WORST scans of any particular hero, and the BEST scans of Daken's feats and used them to support your argument. In fact, I'm impressed you had these scans lying around, and readily available. Because they are absolutely hilarious.

Thanks for reading,

Floopay

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#147  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Floopay: Great no credit on my end. Thx a lot Floopay, I thought we were cool.

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Magneto curbstomps.

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#149  Edited By Floopay

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@Floopay: Great no credit on my end. Thx a lot Floopay, I thought we were cool.

Hey, you gave up on page 7 when Static asked if you were joking. Citizen_Bane, I believe, has stuck to his guns so long, that I believe even he himself is starting to believe his misinformation.

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#150  Edited By god_spawn  Moderator

@Floopay: I didn't give up, I was being truthful :P.