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Rules:

  • BM Naruto, Start of Wano Luffy, and Ichigo no Dangai/TYBW but everything else goes.
  • Current for Mel, Natsu, and Asta
  • R1: As is
  • R2: verse equalization
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#2  Edited By FaradaySloth

Notice how one of the weakest Ichigo forms is comparable BM Naruto/Start of Want Luffy

Oh, my thoughts on them fighting against three MCs of mid to god awful series? IDK

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Magic trio stomp

Ichigo and Luffy are fodder who get one shot by a serious Natsu, negged by Asta or FC by Meliodas. Naruto gets jumped by Magic gang

Even though Mel is probably the weakest here (actually might be Ichigo) he's still versatile enough not to get one kek'd from the world (even this midget is useful). Natsu has the highest power here and burns any sort of attack away (get mad nerds), Asta nulls any sort of attack or defense they have making Natsu & Mel's job easier (The most useful midget here)

I got the COPIUM ready for some people if you want some

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magic trio both rounds lol

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VL/FBB are not the weakest forms of Ichigo, Dangai and TYBW are basically god tiers of the verse.

Anyway HST trio stomps

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#11  Edited By Wushu59

Someone made a thread incidental to this one with same characters on same teams.

Anyways, Natsu has around same stats as opponents but so slow that he might as well not be here.

Meliodas is faster then Natsu but same story in comparison

Haven't seen anything from Asta to suggest he could carry his team to win. Luffy should be able to keep up with low FTL no problem.

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@wushu59: thats some serious downplay buddy asta's only low FTL that's downplay in its finest

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R1: Asta is useless here, he is faster than any on team 1 but that' the extent of it. True magic form Mel > Luffy tho, while he should be inferior in terms of stats to current Natsu (except speed). I'd say team 2 extreme difficulty or team 1 extreme diff.

R2: team 2 high-difficulty.

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#14  Edited By Wushu59

@delein: Luffy isn't inferior in stats to either Natsu or Melidas in anyway. All Large Country tier

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@lichgod3 said:

@wushu59: thats some serious downplay buddy asta's only low FTL that's downplay in its finest

Where do you have him?

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@wushu59: I'm almost certain I gave you a link showing PTS base Asta at 2x LS.

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@wushu59: Correction Natsu is closer to continental -multi-continental, that's all thank you for your time

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@yamatama said:

@wushu59: Correction Natsu is closer to continental -multi-continental, that's all thank you for your time

at best I can understand continental , multicontinental not even in his dreams.

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R1 pirate, ghost, and ninja

R2: Asta solo

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@wushu59 said:

@delein: Luffy isn't inferior in stats to either Natsu or Melidas in anyway. All Large Country tier

mb. Didnt see your tag. by this:

@delein said:

R1: Asta is useless here, he is faster than any on team 1 but that' the extent of it. True magic form Mel > Luffy tho, while he should be inferior in terms of stats to current Natsu (except speed). I'd say team 2 extreme difficulty or team 1 extreme diff.

R2: team 2 high-difficulty.

I meant that Meliodas is stronger due to various things, both hax and comparable stats (except speed obviously), while I have Natsu above Luffy by feats.

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Round 1: actually asta, Meliodas and natsu could solo now that I look at team1 none of them are even country level the only person here that's even close is BM naruto

Round 2: same as Round 1

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@lichgod3:

actually asta, Meliodas and natsu could solo now that I look at team1 none of them are even country level the only person here that's even close is BM naruto

So Asta, and Meliodas is? All of Team 1 are very easily country level. In fact, have far more evidence to be at that tier.

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@pics: this is current asta and meliodas which are both country level I'm pretty BM is small country level luffy should be large island level+ at the start of wano I also just noticed that it dangai not bankai ichigo so that's my bad there but even then I thinks he's just country level at that point

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@lichgod3:

luffy should be large island level+ at the start of wano

No. Given characters like Don Chinjao are capable of altering in that tier, if not much higher, then in no way Large Island is a tier Luffy's capped at. That doesn't even take into account the amplifications with Gear 4 that skyrocket Luffy higher into country level from outputting more force than attacks that no-sell country tier meteors. Then on top of that Luffy knocking Kaido out from the sky, a feat that requires exerting more force than the clouds he uses to fly on through hair as those same clouds are what Kaido uses to lift Onigashima at fast speeds which is already country lvl.

BM is small country level

Sure.

that it dangai not bankai ichigo so that's my bad there but even then I thinks he's just country level at that point

It's not Dangai. Dangai is restricted and Dangai being country lvl doesn't make sense unless you think Bleach god tiers are actually that weak.

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HST stomp, natsu is dead weight.

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HST Trio.

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@lichgod3 said:

@delein: can you explain why tho?

sure. first this is my take on this matchup:

@delein said:

R1: Asta is useless here, he is faster than any on team 1 but that' the extent of it. True magic form Mel > Luffy tho, while he should be inferior in terms of stats to current Natsu (except speed). I'd say team 2 extreme difficulty or team 1 extreme diff.

R2: team 2 high-difficulty.

@lichgod3 said:

Round 1: actually asta, Meliodas and natsu could solo now that I look at team1 none of them are even country level the only person here that's even close is BM naruto

Round 2: same as Round 1

this is your post and the matter at hand.

How can Asta solo on round 1? sure he is hella faster but his main factor (nulling magic) is out of the equation due to energy being unequalized. Speed won't help when he has inferior physical strenght when compared to the other three. Luffy has future sight to soften the gap in speed, I dont seeAsta being able to beat him 1v1 due to haki (especially Ryou)+ Luffy stats. Where do you have Asta in physical strenght? Small country? at best country imo. Mel ranges anywhere between country and large with highball , he can't solo all 3 of them, due to their speed and hax. He can beat Luffy for istance, but not all 3 of them. Natsu is gonna beat all 3 of them? be serious, he is not even relativistic, and even tho he has better physical feats than those forms on T1, he wouldnt be able to solo. those 3 on round 1 are all in the country level spectrum ,or higher depending on how you scale them

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@delein: ok I agree on the natsu I was also skeptical about him soloing he's not even sub-relativistic so Im gonna agree with that part

i also agree with the meliodas part but i still think he can beat luffy and BM naruto at this point atleast in 1v1 match

now asta should large country level+ due to scaling from lilith and naamah who should scale above the dark triad who should be country level+(atleast at 100%) due to several calcs and scaling who scale about of the ancient demon who was going to destroy the country

Also asta should be able even cutrent luffy with speed and power

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#32  Edited By Lichgod3

@pics: "It's not Dangai. Dangai is restricted and Dangai being country lvl doesn't make sense unless you think Bleach god tiers are actually that weak."

No what I meant to say is that dangai restricted so his base should be atleast country level

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@lichgod3: I'd argue the DT at Large country because Zagred was able to tank the full Power of Litch plus several Elves all of who have more mana than a Royal and I have Island+ feats for Royals.

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@decaffeinated: thats nice can you pm me the feats or send it here your choice

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@shirso said:

VL/FBB are not the weakest forms of Ichigo, Dangai and TYBW are basically god tiers of the verse.

Anyway HST trio stomps

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Magic Trio pretty handily.

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#39  Edited By Wushu59
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@wushu59: I'm almost certain I gave you a link showing PTS base Asta at 2x LS.

2x ftl isn't an issue. How much is his full speed?

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@yamatama said:

@wushu59: Correction Natsu is closer to continental -multi-continental, that's all thank you for your time

Absolutely not. I have read Fairy Tail

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@wushu59: MUCH higher, also linked something showcasing how Black Asta is 5-10x faster than base Asta.

Also, 2x LS is an issue that's better than 99% of HST speed feats.

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#42  Edited By Wushu59
@delein said:

I meant that Meliodas is stronger due to various things, both hax and comparable stats (except speed obviously), while I have Natsu above Luffy by feats.

I can understand Meliodas due to hax but he still is still slower by a large amount. You'd have to make a lot of assumptions with ambiguous light based attacks to get him any where near Rel+ speed.

Natsu flat out does not have better feats then Luffy. Do not let these FT fans brainwash you.

Durability wise, Luffy has shown to be far above Natsu. Way more tested in that department and also way more versatile.

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@wushu59:

Also 2x LS is a issue that's better 99% of HST speed feats.

No it isn't.

Considering Luffy was in base when dodging light

Gear 2 massive amp in speed

And Gear 4 Snakeman stack on top of that which is an even larger speed amp

MUCH higher, also linked something showcasing how Black Asta is 5-10x faster than base Asta.

Thought you were referring to other character

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@wushu59:

Yes it is.

Time skip Luffy isn't LS nor is that feat even close to reacting to 2x LS from like 5m away.

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@wushu59 said:
@yamatama said:

@wushu59: Correction Natsu is closer to continental -multi-continental, that's all thank you for your time

Absolutely not. I have read Fairy Tail

Then you would know Natsu in DF is much higher then large country level.

@delein said:
@yamatama said:

@wushu59: Correction Natsu is closer to continental -multi-continental, that's all thank you for your time

at best I can understand continental , multicontinental not even in his dreams.

Eh Natsu in DF down scales somewhat to the DGs who are MC themselves. MC is actually pretty close

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@wushu59:

Yes it is.

Time skip Luffy isn't LS nor is that feat even close to reacting to 2x LS from like 5m away.

Stopped reading here.

Don't have time for stupidity.

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@yamatama: “Multi-Continental Dragon Gods” Not by feats they aren't. Not even Small Continental

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@wushu59: Solid counter you're truly a good debater.

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I think current Luffy can be FTL tbh.

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