Madara VS Toneri

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#1  Edited By RDCDesmond

While the war is still going Toneri has gotten tired of Earths Sheninigans and steals Hanabi Eyes and decides to start his plan on crashing Moon into the Earth but madara freshly becoming the Juubi‘s Jinchuriki senses his energy and speeds off to space instead of facing Might Gai

  • Toneri is in Tenseigan Mode
  • Madara is Juubi Jin 1/2 Rinnegan Pre Juubi (version that fought 8 gates before absorbing tree)
  • Location- The Moon
  • Toneri has his giant statue with him as well
  • 100 meter distance
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Who wins

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Probably Toneri. this Madara doesn't have that many feats. but give him double Rinnegan+God Tree and he stomps.

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If BSM Naruto can beat him, so can Madara who is just Naruto with Rinnegan, regeneration and more chakra.

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I mean Madara scales waaaay above BSM Naruto, I doubt 2 years of training can overcome the lack of SOSP mode, which Madara scales to. By that logic he stomps.

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Toneri stomps

Yeesh people

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This version of Madara was getting close to Hagoromo

This version of Toneri was roughly as strong as Hamura

This is pretty close in my opinion

Also it was BM not BSM, the movie messed up his eyes just like they did Sasuke

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Madara kills toneri

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Madara

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#10  Edited By GreyTheJiren

Also it was BM not BSM, the movie messed up his eyes just like they did Sasuke

Proof?

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This is still not enough, unless there's an official statement from Pierrot. As of now think of it as a movie specific change.

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limbo puts Toneri in a hold and Lightfang takes off Toneris head

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#15  Edited By ManimalMan

madara punts him back to the moon.

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#16  Edited By RDCDesmond

@gokukid2005 said:

This version of Madara was getting close to Hagoromo

This version of Toneri was roughly as strong as Hamura

This is pretty close in my opinion

Also it was BM not BSM, the movie messed up his eyes just like they did Sasuke

This version isnt really close to Hagoromo. This version is pre tree and we already know post tree Madara Before dual Rinnegan was getting blitzed n tagged by Naruto n Sasuke Who are only half of Prime Rinnegan Hag chakra by themselves.

Hag statement of close could be less than 40% of his power. Since maddy was getting bodied by two halves of Hag chakra.

N Prime Hamura awakened his own Tenseigan with his own byakugan + fought an long battle against Prime Juubi And i doubt Hag was constantly saving Hamura so I think Hamura should scale higher than Tenseigan Toneri.

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This version isnt really close to Hagoromo. This version is pre tree and we already know post tree Madara Before dual Rinnegan was getting blitzed n tagged by Naruto n Sasuke Who are only half of Prime Rinnegan Hag chakra by themselves.

When Hagoromo says he gave them "half of his power" he meant he gave Naruto 100% of his physical energy and stamina, and he gave Sasuke 100% of his Spiritual energy and Chakra powers.

Those are the same things Indra and Asura inherited, and it would explain why Madara was being tagged by them, as they got an amp similar to his + their original power + Asura/Indra's power.

Madara even acknowledges they both have abilities he has and he claims he is superior just because he has the two even though Naruto and Sasuke can casually pressure him.

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Hag statement of close could be less than 40% of his power. Since maddy was getting bodied by two halves of Hag chakra.

They weren't exactly half of his power, and beating someone comparable to the full thing should prove that.

Also to assume that Hagoromo is talking about 40% of his power or less is kinda baseless when Naruto goes on to fight near evenly with Kaguya, who Hagoromo admitted inferiority to.

N Prime Hamura awakened his own Tenseigan with his own byakugan + fought an long battle against Prime Juubi And i doubt Hag was constantly saving Hamura so I think Hamura should scale higher than Tenseigan Toneri.

No actually, Hamura didn't have his Tenseigan during the fight, he gained Tenseigan after the fight probably when he was on the Moon.

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Madara wins, he's above 50% BSM Naruto.

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#20  Edited By RDCDesmond

@gokukid2005: I agree with most of your counter but as one fan to another you should know Naruto fighting Kaguya does not mean he is her level. Kaguya is a freak of nature and power surpasses everyone in the verse. Keep in mind the version that fought her was not her full power prime plus Naruto was only able to really damage and tag her because she was getting weaker everytime she dimension swapped to the point the last time she dimension swapped Naruto was able to cut off her arm.

Also we have no proof Hamura didn’t have Tenseigan during Kaguya time of sealing, just because he isn’t shown using it doesn’t mean he didn’t have it during the time. He had TSB + Staff as well, but he isn’t shown using them As the fight flashback with Juubi is just 1 page And the battle itself isn’t really detailed only that they fought Juubi for a extended time.

Prime Rinnegan Hag = SPSM Naruto + Rinnegan Sasuke

Prime Rinnegan Hag >>> Dual Rinnegan Madara >>> SPSM Naruto (Half Of Hag Chakra + Himself) >>> Rinnegan Sasuke (Half Of Hag Chakra + Himself) >>> Post Tree Juubi Madara >> Pre Tree Juubi Madara

Thinking Pre Tree Juubi Jin Madara is anymore than 50% if Hagoromo is illogical considering Sasuke and Naruto who are only 50% of Hag + themseleves can stomp pre tree juubi madara So now would a pre tree Juubi Madara be around hagoromo level.


Madara pre dual eyes got bodied by Naruto n Sasuke individually who are only 50% Hag + themselves so maybe like 55% - 60% of Hag power Adding their own to it. It’s not like after getting other eye Madara got a boost high enough to compensate for half of Hagoromo chakra.