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#1 Edited by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio
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"In this world, wherever there is light - there are also shadows. As long as the concept of winners exists, there must also be losers. The selfish desire of wanting to maintain peace causes wars, and hatred is born to protect love."
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"I have no reason to feel hatred towards those beneath me. All I feel towards them is pity."
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"Pride won't save the world."
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"Justice is absolute! No forgiveness for those who oppose it!"
  • In character.
  • Shunsui is EOS.
  • Escanor is High Noon.
  • Madara is Edo.
  • Akainu is Current.
  • No knowledge.
  • Verse Equalization.
  • Location: Namek.
  • Edo Immortality is restricted.

Madara vs Escanor vs Shunsui vs Akainu.

R1: Perfect Susano, Logia Intangibility, The One and Bankai are restricted.

R2: Everything goes.

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#2 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

Team 1 with the restrictions in place.

Madara can take Shunsui and honestly High noon Escanor should stomp Akainu.

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#3 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@man_of_miracles: There is no team. This is a four way fight. Read the OP clearly.

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#4 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: You are right, apologies.

In that case I would have to say Escanor or Akainu. I don't think Madara in Edo has the physicals to keep up and in all honesty Shunsui without his Bankai might be low man on the totem pole other than speed.

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#5 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

R1 should go to escanor in near stomp tbh.

R2 while I don't think shunsui is the strongest I think he will win this match up simply because he has shown that IC he can play dead/defeated and then stab an opponent in the back so I feel like he's more likely to let the other wear themselves out and then move in for the kill

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#7 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95: What about Logia Intangibility or The One or Susano? Do you think Shunsui can deal with that alone? Do you think his Bankai can effect multiple people? I'd assume so since Ukitake kinda implied it but I want to hear your thoughts on it.

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#8 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95 said:

R1 should go to escanor in near stomp tbh.

R2 while I don't think shunsui is the strongest I think he will win this match up simply because he has shown that IC he can play dead/defeated and then stab an opponent in the back so I feel like he's more likely to let the other wear themselves out and then move in for the kill

Shunsui would win round one in the same way you're saying he'll win round two. And he wouldn't have to do that for round two since his Bankai would be more than enough.

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#9 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13847 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor Round 1.

Not sure about Round 2. Too much weird hax in play.

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#10 Edited by Undre (3828 posts) - - Show Bio

Shunsui if bankia was a factor. He can even kill intangibles

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#11 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: I don't think his shikai would be enough here especially with escanor durability to cutting attack

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#12 Posted by TheEmperor95 (1554 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: no I don't think he could deal with all of that alone but he would let them exhaust each other while he plays dead and then cleans up the scraps

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#13 Posted by deactivated-5c9011bc9c6e9 (616 posts) - - Show Bio

r1: Escanor

r2: Shunsui

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#14 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@theemperor95:

Shunsuis an island + level character

He's stronger than Starkk who's leagues above the other top 4 espada who could each bust Las Noches an Island + level construct by simply going into their releases. and he's much faster than Escanor.

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And iro oni only lets you cut the person if you picked a color.

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His games and power would overwhelm everyone here.

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#15 Posted by Gilateen (4035 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara beats them all. Can’t kill an Edo without seals

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#16 Posted by FaradaySloth (10091 posts) - - Show Bio

R1: No one can hurt Escanor here, he's too durable and way more powerful.

R2: Shunsui STOMPS with Bankai

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#17 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: Wow, I'm missing everything tonight. With everything goes I would say Shunsui would take it first, everyone else second, with Shuinsi's bankai does it matter how many people?

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#18 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

The idea that Shunsui could win round one is absurd lol.

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#19 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio
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#20 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: How so?

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

In the first round Escanor would annihilate him with no effort.

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#21 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

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#22 Posted by Azureus (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

You will start by posting that island level feat, and a speed feat better than dodging a beam of light moving at undisclosed speeds. High noon Escanor oneshotted Multi-mountain durability characters by casually chopping the air infront of them. Durability feats in piercing and heat resistance are required.

Unless you can produce those, Escanor oneshots.

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#23 Posted by KingGuinness (1893 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

Shunsui's not island level and he's not the fastest here either, lol.

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#24 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18103 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Madara wins since nobody can permanently put him down while in edo besides Shunsui, but Shunsui isn't strong enough to beat him.

Round 2: Madara wins for the same reason. Akainu can be sealed, and Escanor can do to him what Akainu did to Ace. Shunsui has a chance with his bankai, but he would most likely get killed before he can even use it. It would come down to Madara vs Escanor, but again, Escanor has no way to put edo Madara down for good, so Madara eventually wins.

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#25 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

You will start by posting that island level feat, and a speed feat better than dodging a beam of light moving at undisclosed speeds. High noon Escanor oneshotted Multi-mountain durability characters by casually chopping the air infront of them. Durability feats in piercing and heat resistance are required.

I already explained how he's Island + level you will to start by debunking that with an actual argument and not just denial. PS. You won't be able to. lml. I don't even need to bring up Shunsui's LS feats he's already faster via scaling. And shunsui was able to withstand Yammas shikai flames Escanors won't be a problem.

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#26 Posted by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest:

Shunsui's not island level and he's not the fastest here either, lol.

Yet he's stronger than Island + level characters and has better speed feats than anyone here, lol.

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#27 Posted by Man_of_Miracles (3551 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest: Other people have already replied properly so I'll just go ahead and say you are a fanboy idiot. And please flag me on this because I'm sick of you.

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#28 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@man_of_miracles:

Other people have already replied properly so I'll just go ahead and say you are a fanboy idiot. And please flag me on this because I'm sick of you.

And you're all fanboys of whatever character you see winning right? Whatever arguments you bring to discussion are invalid simply because i don't like them right?

You're pathetic. Next time just admit you're incompetent and can't form a decent argument instead of throwing a fit and resorting to those childish insults.

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#30 Posted by DemonGod_PABLO (1690 posts) - - Show Bio

I’m calling it out now before people start to degrade bleach. Insults were cast from the opposition first

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#31 Posted by HitTheAssasin (8272 posts) - - Show Bio

@b_r023: You might want to restrict Edo immortality. As is, nobody here has the sealing abilities necessary to put Madara down.

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#32 Edited by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio
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#33 Posted by EcoBlitz (5107 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin: tbh tho I haven’t seen Edo’s reform from total body vaporization.

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#34 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18103 posts) - - Show Bio

With immortality restricted Escanor probably wins both rounds. Madara can't beat Escanor near noon time without perfect Susanoo, and the others can't beat him either, so round 1 goes to Escanor, and even with perfect Susanoo I doubt he would beat the one Escanor, though since this is a free for all it's possible Escanor won't be able to beat everyone within a minute, in which someone else could pick up the win, and if someone else would win it would probably be Madara, as he could trick Escanor with a clone or even use izanagi to come back and then win.

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#35 Posted by lilcabbage (743 posts) - - Show Bio

madras an edo? LMAO he calls in tactical meteors until he creates mt everest.

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#36 Posted by KingGuinness (1893 posts) - - Show Bio
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@leothegreatest:

Shunsui's not island level and he's not the fastest here either, lol.

Yet he's stronger than Island + level characters and has better speed feats than anyone here, lol.

Like who? The 4 top Espada? Lol. None of them have island level feats whatsoever.

Shunsui doesn't have a single quantifiable speed feat to his name.

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#37 Edited by uchihaghost (955 posts) - - Show Bio

Round 1: Either Akainu or Escanor, Akainu was able to punch a hole in WB and also took hits from WB, while escanor neg diffed galans critical over strike. Leaning towards akainu though (though i choose him cuz he has the better physicals based on calcs/scaling on other sites).

Round 2: Madara, madara can literally just use mayfly and use a clone to fight on his stead, after the fight he pops out and kills the last man standing which will be exhausted and will be offguard (but thats not how madara rolls, madara will unleash hell on them, meteor spam, PS, genjutsu, 6 paths and wood techniques, he can change the environment to his liking with wood release and make the terrain toxic with wood pollen to the other fighters, he can also freely teleport or move through wood using mayfly. Genjutsu is GG to anyone he tags. So yea madara comes out on top.

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#38 Posted by Jmarshmallow (13847 posts) - - Show Bio

@alextheboss: I’m really not sure why Escanor wouldn’t be able to beat up the other four in a minute with The One.

He ends all of his fights pretty much instantly.

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#39 Edited by WorldofRuin6 (3628 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor both rounds. Shunsui should not be here. He gets blitzed before he can use bankai.

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#40 Edited by Azureus (2715 posts) - - Show Bio

@leothegreatest said:
@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

You will start by posting that island level feat, and a speed feat better than dodging a beam of light moving at undisclosed speeds. High noon Escanor oneshotted Multi-mountain durability characters by casually chopping the air infront of them. Durability feats in piercing and heat resistance are required.

I already explained how he's Island + level you will to start by debunking that with an actual argument and not just denial. PS. You won't be able to. lml. I don't even need to bring up Shunsui's LS feats he's already faster via scaling. And shunsui was able to withstand Yammas shikai flames Escanors won't be a problem.

Notice how I asked for those island level feats, not your explanations. Your words without proof are nothing and I don't need to debunk what's said without proof. What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. So let's see these Island level feats and speed feats. It shouldn't be hard.

And shunsui was able to withstand Yammas shikai flames Escanors won't be a problem.

....The heat Escanor emits just by existing melts and vaporizes rock and metal and this both of these cases are during dawn, and the morning. High Noon Escanor roasts this guy if this is the extent of heat resistance for Shunsui.

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#41 Edited by LeoTheGreatest (4801 posts) - - Show Bio

@kingguinness said:
@leothegreatest said:
@kingguinness said:

@leothegreatest:

Shunsui's not island level and he's not the fastest here either, lol.

Yet he's stronger than Island + level characters and has better speed feats than anyone here, lol.

Like who? The 4 top Espada? Lol. None of them have island level feats whatsoever.

Destroying LN would be an island + level feat which they could do by simply transforming. That's litteraly why Ulquiorra and Ichigo had to continue their fight above Las Noches Canopy.

Shunsui doesn't have a single quantifiable speed feat to his name.

Most NNT characters get scaled from Galans showings against Merlin when he moved so fast it seemed like he teleported to fodder characters which get's blown out of proportion. Merlin who has no reaction feats herself was able to tell he wasn't teleported.

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Starrk in base was able to blitz Orihime who had a faster reaction speed than Ichigo and a much faster reaction speed than Uryu who can perceive millions of vibrations in under a second.

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He then reacted to Ichigo's and Kenpachi's blitz and took her miles away to where Aizen was and to everyone present it seemed like teleportation.

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That's just a casual Base Starrk, Shunsui fought him at his strongest and fastest.

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#42 Posted by uchihaghost (955 posts) - - Show Bio

@azureus: i'm sorry but escanor is not melting any high/top tier from the hst with the heat he emits, he doesn't have any feat in his the one form to prove he can kill a high/top tier with the heat he emits (btw i'm arguing that he can't melt any of these guys with the heat he emits from his body). The only feat he has is melting rock and metal which these guys are far durable than. You're overhyping escanor or underrating kyouraku.

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#43 Posted by Streak619 (7774 posts) - - Show Bio

How is Escanor beating Madara?

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#44 Posted by AlexTheBoss (18103 posts) - - Show Bio

@streak619: By being stronger than him. Though Madara can still win as well with genjutsu, clones, etc. But if Madara engaged in hand to hand combat he would get killed in one swing.

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#46 Edited by DeathHero61 (18832 posts) - - Show Bio

Escanor round 1. Round 2 Madara might cheese a win via genjutsu

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@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

You will start by posting that island level feat, and a speed feat better than dodging a beam of light moving at undisclosed speeds. High noon Escanor oneshotted Multi-mountain durability characters by casually chopping the air infront of them. Durability feats in piercing and heat resistance are required.

Unless you can produce those, Escanor oneshots.

I think that tells you what speed it is.

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#48 Posted by Yox (349 posts) - - Show Bio

R1. Probably Akainu

R2. Shunsui

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@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@azureus said:
@leothegreatest said:
@man_of_miracles said:

@leothegreatest:

He has exactly 0 advantages over the other contestants. Literally the only arguable advantage he would have is speed. And again is that is completely arguable. He loses in every other category.

So you're going to ignore the fact he's stronger than Island + level characters?

He isn't "arguably" faster. He's simply faster.

And Iro oni reality warps so that escanor can try to cut all he wants but he won't be able to do damage unless he says a color. All Shunsui needs to do is say "purple" and slice his throat open much like his Bankai but without the exploding part.

You will start by posting that island level feat, and a speed feat better than dodging a beam of light moving at undisclosed speeds. High noon Escanor oneshotted Multi-mountain durability characters by casually chopping the air infront of them. Durability feats in piercing and heat resistance are required.

I already explained how he's Island + level you will to start by debunking that with an actual argument and not just denial. PS. You won't be able to. lml. I don't even need to bring up Shunsui's LS feats he's already faster via scaling. And shunsui was able to withstand Yammas shikai flames Escanors won't be a problem.

Notice how I asked for those island level feats, not your explanations. Your words without proof are nothing and I don't need to debunk what's said without proof. What can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence. So let's see these Island level feats and speed feats. It shouldn't be hard.

And shunsui was able to withstand Yammas shikai flames Escanors won't be a problem.

....The heat Escanor emits just by existing melts and vaporizes rock and metal and this both of these cases are during dawn, and the morning. High Noon Escanor roasts this guy if this is the extent of heat resistance for Shunsui.

Does he really have a attack called high noon? If so he solos the verses in question.