R1: Difficult to tell, though if this Aizen is anywhere near his captain self, he should win.
R2: Could go either way, Aizen is much faster but can't do crap against PS. There are many ways this can go tbh, but I'm leaning towards Aizen.
R3: the hell is Hooler?? Base Aizen loses, chrysalis Aizen loses or high diffs, transcedent Aizen wins with some difficulties, butterfly Aizen wins and monster Aizen stomps.
Edit: Hooler is the big ass hollow, Madara stomps R3.
Aizen easily he should have still be one of the strongest characters at this point.
R2: EMS Madara (VOTE) vs Captain Aizen (SS Arc)
Aizen still wins easily, He isn’t getting tagged and Susanoo gets busted open.
R3: VOTE Madara with Kurama vs SS Aizen with Hooleer
Is hooler supposed to be the Hogyoku? Regardless Kurama doesn’t change anything Aizen still isn’t getting tagged, Susanoo get’s busted open and Kurama get’s sealed or beaten down.
R1: Aizen wins. MS Madara doesn't have anything particularly impressive.
R2: Madara wins with perfect susanoo.
R2: Madara wins, Kurama is a big buff for him, and Hooler (the giant hollow that opened up the dimensional hole) is piratically useless for Aizen here.
Aizen only beats MS Madara due to the latter's lack of feats. EMS alone one-shots every form of Aizen.
How does he one shot immortal Aizen? Even if he wasn't immortal, EOS Aizen is stronger than shikai Kenpachi, who has a feat at least on par with EMS Madara's perfect Susanoo.
@woodward: Just based off of visuals the meteor he shattered was mountain sized. Based off of statements it was going to one shot the soul society which by statements is country sized. So even if you just go by visuals it's on par.
Kenpachi shattered the meteor by directly hitting it.
The air pressure of Perfect Susanoo unsheathing its sword obliterated two meteors, made a giant canyon on the landscape and sliced a mountain range. All as a side-effect by just unsheathing its sword.
@woodward: The meteor Kenpachi destroyed by visual scaling is a lot bigger.
Due to being in the background the mountains Madara sliced up are bigger than they seem, but only the tops were sliced off, and shattering something is more impressive than slicing something. Plus Kenpachi had his eyepatch on when he destroyed the meteor. If we assume Aizen is more powerful than bankai Kenpachi, that means Aizen would be more than 5-10x stronger than the Kenpachi that busted the meteor. Considering Yhwach thought Aizen was bankai Ichigo, who should be stronger than bankai Kenapchi, it is highly Aizen is around this level, and I believe one of the novels confirms Aizen is the strongest besides Ichigo, so he should scale.
So you can argue EMS Madara is more powerful than shikai Kenpachi, but EOS Aizen is pushing it, and even if they are on a similar level, Aizen is immortal and Madara can only compete while in his perfect susanoo, so Aizen can just destroy him before he even goes into it, and butterfly Aizen can teleport, so he can possibly just teleport right inside of it and kill Madara from the inside. Sage mode rinnegan Madara with Hashirama cells is arguably as strong as EOS Aizen, but just EMS isn't going to cut it.
Is no one going to talk about hados because some are pretty op. Like the one which distorts space and time and is described to be like a black hole in a box. But no one is stomping I would go with aizen high difficulty.
@alextheboss: Weren't you saying the meteor was mountain-sized and now you're saying it's bigger than a mountain range? Seems like belief conflict. Also, Madara destroyed his two meteors and those were bigger than Grammy's meteor:
They were dropped in a desert terrain and Shinobi Alliance located in an entirely different land, as you can tell from those trees, can see them. Those meteors, despite their kinetic energy decreased significantly by Onoki, generated tremors that can be felt all the way to Shinobi Alliance HQ, which would be country level feat.
So Gremmy's meteor is way inferior to Madara's meteor, and so is Kenpachi's feat for stated reasons. Also, you shouldn't rely on this faulty scaling. By Aizen's admission, destroying hill formations was something he could not believe.
Weren't you saying the meteor was mountain-sized and now you're saying it's bigger than a mountain range?
When the hell did I say that?
Seems like belief conflict. Also, Madara destroyed his two meteors and those were bigger than Grammy's meteor:
No, his meteors, or at least the debris he destroyed, were clearly about the same size as his perfect susanoo.
And his perfect susanoo isn't even close to the size of the meteor Kenpachi destroyed.
They were dropped in a desert terrain and Shinobi Alliance located in an entirely different land
They could have been right at the edge of the desert.
Again, the meteors aren't as big as you are claiming.
By Aizen's admission, destroying hill formations was something he could not believe.
His body is tiny in comparison to Madara's perfect Susanoo. If a swing of his sword caused the same amount of damage, that would mean his potency is actually far higher. And that version of Aizen is much weaker than EOS Aizen.
R1: Unless VC aizen scales to captain Aizen he is losing to madara based on scaling, MS madara should still have half susano/fire style techniques/genjutsu/clones/izanagi/Gunbai/Precog/magatama beads/susano blade.
@alextheboss: EOS Aizen doesn’t really scale to kenpachi at all and Aizen doesn’t even use physical/destructive attacks so that scaling is faulty Aizen makes his killing on hax abilities.
Anyways EMS Madara beats any Aizen destroying a hill had butterfly Aizen absolutely scared
@allhellkingdox: Aizen absolutely scales to Kenpachi, and no, his main abilities aren’t hax. He was so powerful Yhwach thought he was bankai Ichigo, who is more powerful than bankai Kenpachi. And destroying a hill didn’t scare Aizen, he was just surprised by the power to destroy a hill with just the wind pressure of a sword swing. Ulquiorra’s Lanza was already leagues above hill busting and Yamamoto survived a multi city level attack, so not sure why you would try to low ball butterfly Aizen to being scared of hill busting, which clearly isn’t the case.
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