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#1 Edited by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio
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Rules:

  1. This is Madara before his final death without any injuries; whereas this is Aizen from the final chapter of Bleach manga without any injuries.
  2. Madara is alive, activates Complete Body — Susanoo & Mugen Tsukuyomi, wears ninja armor, has White Zetsu's arm, dual Rinnegan & Rinne Sharingan, enters Sage Mode, absorbs chakra to limit, has Body Modifications done on him, transforms into Rikudō Senjutsu, absorbs Ten-Tails' tree form & Yin Kurama, and wields Truth-Seeking Balls, Shakujō, Fūma Shuriken, Gunbai, Kama, Spear, Sword & Tantō.
  3. Aizen activates Shikai, has Immortality & Caja Negación, transforms into Final Fusion of Hōgyoku, wields Zanpakutō, wears Reiatsu Concealing Cloak, embeds Hōgyoku, and removes chair, bidding & seals completely.
  4. 1-on-1 death battle.
  5. No interference or holding back.

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Soul Society under Mugen Tsukuyomi.

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#3 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

Sorry about the bad location here.~

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#4 Posted by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

This has been done in basically every way. Ignoring that, Madara could let Aizen attack him for the rest of eternity and never lose.

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#5 Posted by kasya_carey (5488 posts) - - Show Bio
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#6 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio
@marc_55 said:

This has been done in basically every way. Ignoring that, Madara could let Aizen attack him for the rest of eternity and never lose.

So who would win?

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#7 Posted by Darthjhawk (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

I actually really want to do a CAV of this. Madara should win the majority, but I always feel it’ll be fun.

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#8 Posted by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55 said:

This has been done in basically every way. Ignoring that, Madara could let Aizen attack him for the rest of eternity and never lose.

So who would win?

So, you don't see that I said Madara can't lose this fight?

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#9 Posted by BilboBaggins (786 posts) - - Show Bio

Been done a lot of times. Madara always stomps.

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#10 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@bilbobaggins: @darthjhawk: Both of you give me reason why Madara would win. Not that I disagree with you, but I need reasons other than naming out who wins.

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#11 Posted by klasstyT (201 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara uses limbo to cut Aizen head off.

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#12 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55 said:
@godsvileanddarkwing said:
@marc_55 said:

This has been done in basically every way. Ignoring that, Madara could let Aizen attack him for the rest of eternity and never lose.

So who would win?

So, you don't see that I said Madara can't lose this fight?

I don't disagree with you, but I need reason as to why you think Madara would win other than he stomps.

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#13 Edited by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55 said:
@godsvileanddarkwing said:
@marc_55 said:

This has been done in basically every way. Ignoring that, Madara could let Aizen attack him for the rest of eternity and never lose.

So who would win?

So, you don't see that I said Madara can't lose this fight?

I don't disagree with you, but I need reason as to why you think Madara would win other than he stomps.

I'm saying Aizen can't hurt him at all. Madara could do any one move, and Aizen would be in grave danger, no matter what it was.

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#14 Posted by grappolo (2922 posts) - - Show Bio

madara stomps.

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#15 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@grappolo: Same with you, rather than simply saying Madara stomps, I need reasons.

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#16 Posted by klasstyT (201 posts) - - Show Bio
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#17 Posted by klasstyT (201 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen can't sense limbo or see it.

1-2 limbo holds down aizen while the rest chop aizen head off.

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#18 Posted by Chaos239 (5081 posts) - - Show Bio

@darthjhawk: I would see this as a good CaV but the problem is always Aizen's Illusion GG problem.

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#19 Edited by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@klasstyt said:

Aizen can't sense limbo or see it.

1-2 limbo holds down aizen while the rest chop aizen head off.

I always thought Madara's limbo was on the same realm as the shinigamis are in Bleach, because ordinary humans can't see shinigamis in Bleach, just like ordinary ninjas can't see limbo clone.

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#20 Posted by grappolo (2922 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: It's common sense, if you have knowledge on both of them you should know that this version of madara is way above aizen, it's simple as that.

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#21 Posted by klasstyT (201 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: only people with Rinnegan can see it or if you have Sage of the Sixth Paths chakra can detect Limbo.

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#22 Edited by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

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@darthjhawk: I would see this as a good CaV but the problem is always Aizen's Illusion GG problem.

No, it's not. Actually, it's the other way around. Madara shuts him down with a glance using IT. Aizen can't even use KS on Madara, who has the ability to see through illusions and fully flip them on opponents.

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#23 Posted by Darthjhawk (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

@chaos239: Well the infinite Tsukuyomi is more powerful than Kyoka Suigetsu, also the Sharingan does have the ability to see through illusions as well. Plus even if Madara was caught up in it, Aizen would be hard pressed to put him down until Madara breaks out which wouldn’t be very long imo.

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#24 Edited by Darthjhawk (5227 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: My reasoning? Madara should have him outmatched in every physical stat area imo, except for maybe base striking strength. Ill have to run through Aizen’s feats again. Plus Madara is much more versatile and has a greater arsenal at his disposal. His Rinnegan and Senjutsu should give him the ability to see Aizen of we’re going down that route as well. Madara has the counters and the means to put Aizen down, and Chibaku Tensei could seal him if he can’t kill him.

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#25 Posted by rickyrck (1993 posts) - - Show Bio

Aizen trolls.

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#26 Posted by Back_stabbath95 (2187 posts) - - Show Bio

This thread is a dime a dozen

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#27 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@rickyrck: You there, I need reasoning. Not disagreeing with you, but I need more then this character trolls.

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#28 Edited by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: lol I was wondering how long before this popped up agian I guess u saw seththeprogrammers video on this very topic

Aizen due to the hogyuku

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#29 Posted by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio

https://youtu.be/VchqvMYjvbA Seth isn't that bad

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#30 Posted by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

https://youtu.be/VchqvMYjvbA Seth isn't that bad

He's pretty trash, even assuming he said Madara wins.

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#31 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: lol I was wondering how long before this popped up agian I guess u saw seththeprogrammers video on this very topic

Who won according to his video? I haven't seen it yet.

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#32 Edited by ProteusXManRxis (4445 posts) - - Show Bio

Madara.

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#33 Edited by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Posted by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio
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#35 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@proteusxmanrxis: You too. Rather than simply calling out the character, I need reasons too.

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#36 Edited by deactivated-5c07a0327fd39 (4596 posts) - - Show Bio

This has been done millions of times and the result never changes.

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#37 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@gear4god said:

This has been done millions of times and the result never changes.

Who would win?

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#38 Posted by TheenlightenedOne (415 posts) - - Show Bio
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this guys solos.

(Also, this threads been done to death)

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#39 Posted by deactivated-5c07a0327fd39 (4596 posts) - - Show Bio
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#40 Posted by deactivated-5c07a0327fd39 (4596 posts) - - Show Bio

@godsvileanddarkwing: EMS Madara is a good fight for Aizen. Anything above and Madara swats him like a fly.

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#41 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

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this guys solos.

(Also, this threads been done to death)

I remember that meme somewhere.

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#42 Posted by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55: it's all opinions either way

Some opinions can be supported by fact, others can't. His usually are of the can't variety, along with being mostly nonsense anyway.

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#43 Edited by jasonhitto (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

@theenlightenedone: nope even madara is too much for yhwack...i think even tsunade can smack yhwack hard let alone god tier like madara

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#44 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio

@theenlightenedone: nope even madara is too much for yhwack...i think even tsunade can smack yhwack hard let alone god tier like madara

Yhwach is planet level, you know that right....?

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#45 Posted by GodsVileandDarkwing (1176 posts) - - Show Bio
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#46 Posted by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55: no when I say it's all opinions I mean everything is an opinion whether it's his videos or every debate here about a hypothetical situation

base your opinion on a fictional fact and the end result is still an opinion not a fact

I'm sure it doesn't apply to all fiction but being based on something doesn't make it all the same think bout if kishimoto came out and said 4 inches in the real world was considered a foot in the Naruto world your view of Naruto would change instantly

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#47 Edited by Vulkanian (516 posts) - - Show Bio

I usually like Seth's videos, but this one wasn't very good. He used a lot of no limits fallacies for Aizen, like saying he's infinitely getting stronger and he's fully immortal so he can't lose. Then he says that Aizen put Yhwach under his hypnosis or whatever, and says that Yhwach can see all possible futures/timelines. If that's true, then how would he be put under hypnosis? Yhwach wouldn't be put under hypnosis, that's how. He also wouldn't of lost if he could see all timelines and outcomes of every possible reality.

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#48 Posted by Marc_55 (5857 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55: no when I say it's all opinions I mean everything is an opinion whether it's his videos or every debate here about a hypothetical situation

Yes, obviously. This doesn't change anything I've said.

base your opinion on a fictional fact and the end result is still an opinion not a fact

Why you're so hung up on opinions being opinions I don't know, but all opinions are not equal. Some, again, can be supported. Others cannot.

I'm sure it doesn't apply to all fiction but being based on something doesn't make it all the same think bout if kishimoto came out and said 4 inches in the real world was considered a foot in the Naruto world your view of Naruto would change instantly

This is barely legible, and it also doesn't really mean anything.

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#50 Edited by sideSHOWbill (356 posts) - - Show Bio

@marc_55: I'm hung up on opinions cuz everyone thinks their opinions are facts when they simply don't realize anything based on a fictional fact Is simply not a fact but an opinion