Mace Windu's strike team vs Snoke, Kylo Ren and Praetorian Guards

Canon Fight

In characters

Wins by Death or K.O

Windu's team probably

Snoke ragdolls while his team gets fodderized running interference.

Windu could possibly solo, maybe... either way his team wins

Strike team are Fodder, Windu can’t beat them all kylo ren alone is a hard fight.

Windu is prolly in my opinion the best SW lightsaber fighter in the series. He solos.

Decent fight but the Villains have far more numbers and I think Kylo and the guards could take out the other jedi while Snoke and Windu stalemate with lightning

till he gets help from Kylo Ren etc or... Mace takes out anyone cqc while Snoke ragdolls the 3 jedi easily with either Kylos help or alone.

It's a tricky fight lots of different possibilities but I think more often than not the Dark side have the advantage.

Kit Fisto and Mace Windu carry their team to victory.

Windu could solo tbh.

Snokes team

Even in canon they stomp with the utmost of ease.

Jedi stomp

Villain's due to Snoke imo

Strike team stomps kek. ROS Kylo and Rey might win by merit of being (around) Vader level, but TLJ iterations get stomped.

@idrisiangraecus: How are ROS Kylo and Rey (no amp) Vader level? I can see them being Maul level maybe but they still don't have the feats to be Vader level. It's also unlikely that their TLJ versions are that shit. There is just one year between TLJ and ROS.

Also, Snoke might lead his team to victory if he is indeed ROTJ Sidious level.

@darthadi: Well ROS Kylo and all are holistically portrayed at that level, and the idea of him jumping that much isn't outlandish. Luke goes from his ESB self to ~ Vader in a year. They're both Skywalkers.

mace should solo. then again, I’ve never seen any feats for the guards other than losing to Kylo & Rey

@idrisiangraecus: I wouldn't say that they are holistically portrayed at that level. Anyway, this is a very subjective matter.

With Luke it made sense to be a huge jump in power between ESB and ROTJ but the thing with Kylo is that he had years of training before TLJ. It is clear that Kylo grew a lot between TLJ and ROS but think he was still decent before that. Some of his comic feats are pretty good for example and even before ROS, holistically he was portrayed as being a powerfull force user.

@darthadi: Well, Kylo beat a Mary Sue. That’s a lot of improvement.

Snokes Superiority in the Force was effective against Rey because she was a force Nub who while powerful lacked refinement. He never ragdolls Kylo, and I seriously doubt he could Ragdoll Mace or Kit Fisto, let alone anybody on that Jedi Master level. Since he doesnt use a Saber, hes at a severe disadvantage here, unlike someone like Sidious who we know is a monster with the Saber. Kylo (and the Guards Together) are around, Maybe Jedi Knight level with Sabers..? Not super impressive. Any of the Jedi Masters can match him overall, with Mace Windu and perhaps Kit Fisto having a clear cut advantage. Any of the Jedi are going to cut through the Guards.

This comes down to Snoke vs Mace... and we already saw Sidious (no lightsaber) vs Mace...