Mace Windu vs Obi Wan and Anakin in ROTS fight.

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Could Mace beat Anakin and Obi Wan in the opening fight of RotS?

Round 1: Canon

Round 2: Legends

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R1: Windu gets creamed quicker than Dooku does, probably lasts about 30 seconds especially as vaapad is useless here.

I can't speak on legends, not familiar with it.

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Can Anakin arguably solo?

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Mace.

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#6  Edited By HitTheAssasin

Mace gets absolutely destroyed as he lacks Dooku's experience in fighting Obi and Ani and his skill in fighting multiple enemies. Additionally, he's also weaker force wise. In canon, it's more difficult as Mace fought off Sidious for a time, though he was probably holding back.

R1: can go either way, probably team though

R2: Team stomps, Anakin could solo.

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If ani is zonakin, he can solo. If not, the team wins after an excellent fight. I don’t think mace can remove easily Obi from the fight with TK as Dooku did

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#8  Edited By Royal_Warrior

Honestly both have a shot at soloing together it's a mismatch

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Round 1: Team, 7/10

Round 2: Team 10/10 stomps

Anakin alone can solo.

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#10  Edited By Emperor_Jar_Jar

@tj849: LOL. No way bud. He gets stomped in Legends, and still loses canon.

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#11  Edited By Emperor_Jar_Jar
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Poor Mace.

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#13  Edited By tj849
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Mace wins both rounds.

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@odinvsdormmy: You a new youtuber? No way Mace wins. Anakin can solo him.

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@sirfizzwhizz: To make this fair, you should have chose Mace and Maul vs Anakin and Obi Wan instead.

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#19  Edited By MarvelandDCfan24

Team both rounds to skilled stronger with the force

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Opening scene on Invisible Hand? If it had been Mace there instead of Dooku?

Mace is going done in the same manner regardless of Vaapad. Anakin did allow his rage to consume him (he began losing at that time) but then he controlled it. It's still skirting the dark side, but Anakin is stronger than Mace with a saber no matter what relying on Lucas approved scaling used in the movie. Feats be damned for this. That fight defined Anakin and set up the creation of Vader. I think that the first duel is the PERFECT time for Anakin to fight Windu because he had no confliction at that time as opposed to when he fought Kenobi on Mustafar.

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@redheathen: Based on accolades for Legends.

"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin Skywalker's rise to power was astonishing. He went from being a slave on Tatooine to one of the most powerful Jedi ever.

Source: Force Collection

An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not?"

Source: Revenge of the Sith

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

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@redheathen: Based on accolades for Legends.

"Skywalker is arguably the most powerful Jedi alive, and he is still getting stronger."

Source: Revenge of the Sith

Anakin Skywalker's rise to power was astonishing. He went from being a slave on Tatooine to one of the most powerful Jedi ever.

Source: Force Collection

An embarrassment you can survive, Lord Tyranus. After all, he is the greatest Jedi alive, is he not?"

Source: Revenge of the Sith

This is Anakin Skywalker:

The most powerful Jedi of his generation. Perhaps of any generation. The fastest. The strongest. An unbeatable pilot. An unstoppable warrior. On the ground, in the air or sea or space, there is no one even close. He has not just power, not just skill, but dash: that rare, invaluable combination of boldness and grace.

He is the best there is at what he does. The best there has ever been. And he knows it.

Source: Revenge of the Sith

And thus winneth Anakin.

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Up. Why or why wouldn't Windu last longer than Dooku?

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I like the idea of Mace winning. Im not an expert. Please dont come at me. ;-)

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Windu's a better combatant than Dooku (margins aren't necessarily small either) so while he doesn't get battered as hard as the Count does, and lasts a bit longer, he's still absolutely going down.

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#27  Edited By AnonymousJedi

Anakin solos; mace loses hard here

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#28  Edited By Hope_w

Mace Threeshots. Your argument can't possibly be valid.

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Lol

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Oh and one thing I do want to clear up, Obi was hindered on Mustafar as well. Stop using it as an excuse to Lowball him and highball Anakin. K, thx.

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#31  Edited By Vivec3629

Really this goes the same way that Dooku's fight did. Dooku is arguably better at handling multiple powerful Force users at once, and Mace can't surmount both of these two.

A snip and all of Mace will be nothing at all.

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>Kenobi explicitly being stated to let go of his attachment to Anakin

>Kenobi being hindered due to facing Anakin based on nothing

Pick one.

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#33  Edited By AnonymousJedi

Lmfao; mace has no chance - absolutely 0 - at winning

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"Canon"- Not sure.

Expanded Universe- I'll be the contrarian, Mace Windu.

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Mace still gets bodied and harder than Dooku at that.

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>Kenobi explicitly being stated to let go of his attachment to Anakin

Didnt happen thay way at all, even in the RoTS Novel after he let go the fight was described as only Him vs Anakin:

With Anakin's grip on his wrists bending his arms near to breaking, forcing both their lightsabers down in a slow but unstoppable arc, Obi Wan let go. Of everything. His hopes. His fears. His obligation to the Jedi, his promise to Qui-Gon, his failure with Anakin. And their lightsabers.

This was not Sith against Jedi. This was not light against dark or good against evil; it had nothing to do with duty or philosophy, religion or morals.

It was Anakin against Obi-Wan.

Revenge Of The Sith

>Kenobi being hindered due to facing Anakin based on nothing

Do you ever get tired of lying?:

But that's not really true, Obi-Wan thought as he ducked and wove and parried.Both he and Anakin felt the anguish of their need to kill the other. But Anakin had turned to the dark side, and despair and pain strengthened the dark side. It gave him an advantage Obi-Wan could not match. Unless he let go of his own despair and the let the living Force move him -- the Force that bound all living things together, even Obi-Wan and this new, deadly, evil Anakin.

It was hard. It was perhaps, the hardest thing he had ever tried to do. For in letting go of his anguish, his despair, and his pain, he would have to let go of the Anakin who was his student, his brother, and his dearest friend. He'd have to admit that this time, he could not save the man who had saved his life so many times, whose life he had saved at least as often.

Obi-Wan couldn't do it. As the collection tower sank farther into the lava, he looked for a way to escape.

Revenge of the Sith Junior Novelization

Obiwan bested a tier 9 Anakin handily while both were hindered as per the novel, as per nick Gilliard, as per the Jr novel. You are wrong.

Pick one.

Dismissed.

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Clone Wars Mace loses

ROTS Mace wins as much as I'm loathed to say

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@hope_w:

Hilarious.

How about you actually take everything into account and post quotes pertaining to the end of the fight?

Yes, sure, he's hesitant at the beginning, but as the fight progresses he lets go of his attachment to Anakin and does what he has to do.

Don't run your mouth until you actually know your stuff. Same applies to your fan-fictions on Sidious vs Mace.

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Team wins. But with more trouble. Mace is more powerful and skilled than Dooku and won’t indulge in games like he would.

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Team and it’s probably everytime

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R1: Obi Wan and Anakin

@laurus said:

I can't speak on legends, not familiar with it.

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#43  Edited By SLiMmcl

I just seen a video about Sam Jackson playing mace windu yesterday and they showed a clip from a cartoon that i guess is supposed to be in canon with the movies having Windu squeeze Gen. Greivous heart with the force, almost killing him. If mace uses deadly tactics like that could he be able to win?

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@kilius said:

Clone Wars Mace loses

ROTS Mace wins as much as I'm loathed to say

No.

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#45  Edited By Kilius

@subline:

@subline said:
@kilius said:

Clone Wars Mace loses

ROTS Mace wins as much as I'm loathed to say

No.

It comes down to whether or not you think Mace was legitimately competing with Sidious. I think that was Lucas's intention, even though I hate the decision as it completely ignores Mace's previously established power scaling as Dooku's equal and undermines Sidious' own power.

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Anakin solos

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@sirfizzwhizz: It would happen the same way as Anakin and Obi-Wan vs Dooku in Episode 3, but here, with destructive force powers maybe

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#48  Edited By HitTheAssasin

@hope_w: So, Obi-Wan not using the dark side to feed on his own fears for power due to being a Jedi = he's hindered? Huh? Or am I misunderstanding you here?

And, Anakin probably solos. Once he starts using his anger, which, considering his apparent hate towards Windu and general anger as of ROTS would definitely happen rather quickly, he would overwhelm Mace. Either way, the Team definitely wins.

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@hope_w:

Hilarious.

Comical tbh.

How about you actually take everything into account and post quotes pertaining to the end of the fight?

This was directly stated after obi wan let everything go. However he clearly still acknowledged his enemy and task at hand as directly stated afterwards.

Yes, sure, he's hesitant at the beginning, but as the fight progresses he lets go of his attachment to Anakin and does what he has to do.

Concession accepted, therefore Obi wan was hindered as well in this duel.

Don't run your mouth until you actually know your stuff. Same applies to your fan-fictions on Sidious vs Mace.

Legends-Canon is fanfiction now? Wonderful, your not only dismissed but ignored due to lack of evidence and supporting argument. Good day to you sir, Mace still threeshots.

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