Luke Cage vs Citizen Steel

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#1  Edited By Hadrelius

Luke Cage:

Superhuman strength, stamina, and durability

accelerated healing factor, titanium strong skin,

skilled street fighter

Citizen Steel:

Superhuman strength, invulnerability, organic metal skin

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#2  Edited By pixelized

Citizen steel is sounding alot like Colossus
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#3  Edited By Hadrelius

pixelized says:

"Citizen steel is sounding alot like Colossus
Post Edited:2008-03-20 08:01:31"

I was thinking the same.

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#4  Edited By Hadrelius

pixelized says:

"Citizen steel is sounding alot like Colossus
Post Edited:2008-03-20 08:01:31"

But it is only skin where as Colossus is solid. That's why I picked Cage since his is only skin as well.

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#5  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Cage.

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#6  Edited By Hadrelius

Vance Astro says:

"Cage."

Why?

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#7  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Alpha says:

"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"

The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya.

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#8  Edited By Hadrelius

Vance Astro says:

"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"
The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya."

Cute.

Why?

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#9  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Alpha says:

"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"
The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya."
Cute. Why?"

He's not as strong or as durable as Cage.

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#10  Edited By Hadrelius

Vance Astro says:

"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"
The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya."
Cute. Why?"
He's not as strong or as durable as Cage."

Is that a guess or do you know that really?

From what I've seen so far, he's about the same. I think Cage because of his fighting ability and that titanium is stronger than steel. The only "Buts" is Steel's for some reason is harder to hurt and CAge has a slight healing factor.

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#11  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Alpha says:

"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"
The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya."
Cute. Why?"
He's not as strong or as durable as Cage."
Is that a guess or do you know that really? From what I've seen so far, he's about the same. I think Cage because of his fighting ability and that titanium is stronger than steel. The only "Buts" is Steel's for some reason is harder to hurt and CAge has a slight healing factor. "

Steel's second skin is organic steel...Cage's skin is more durable than that.Only Adamantium and certain high powered lazers can break it.From what I've seen Cage really isn't that great of a fighter.I'm just saying I don't think Steel is strong enough to do much damage to Cage.

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#12  Edited By Hadrelius

Vance Astro says:

"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Alpha says:
"Vance Astro says:
"Cage."
Why?"
The Rock of Gibraltar is now fallin'....on ya."
Cute. Why?"
He's not as strong or as durable as Cage."
Is that a guess or do you know that really? From what I've seen so far, he's about the same. I think Cage because of his fighting ability and that titanium is stronger than steel. The only "Buts" is Steel's for some reason is harder to hurt and CAge has a slight healing factor. "
Steel's second skin is organic steel...Cage's skin is more durable than that.Only Adamantium and certain high powered lazers can break it.From what I've seen Cage really isn't that great of a fighter.I'm just saying I don't think Steel is strong enough to do much damage to Cage."

I see!

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#13  Edited By POHOCOM

I know that Cage is stronger than he was in the 80's, but does anyone know how he got stronger? Is he as strong as Spider-Man now, or Mr Hyde?

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#14  Edited By Avantar

No sure when Cage became stronger, but I know originally he was described as being bruised by bullets.

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#15  Edited By Static Shock

POHOCOM says:

"I know that Cage is stronger than he was in the 80's, but does anyoneknow how he got stronger? Is he as strong as Spider-Man now, or Mr Hyde?"

Further experiments increased his strength. His current strength level

is equal to that of Spider-Man before he was retconned in One More Day.
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#16  Edited By POHOCOM

Avantar says:

"No sure when Cage became stronger, but I know originally he was described as being bruised by bullets."

I also remember that normal humans like Big Ben and some big Russian guy could give him problems in a fist fight.

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#17  Edited By Avantar

I remeber the Big Russian guy giving problems to Cage also..Wasn't that with the Russian ballerina given a hard time to Iron Fist. Of course it just goes to show you how unimaginative everything can become when you just take ahero or villian and just increase his power.

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#18  Edited By POHOCOM

Avantar says:

"I remeber the Big Russian guy giving problems to Cage also..Wasn't that with the Russian ballerina given a hard time to Iron Fist. Of course it just goes to show you how unimaginative everything can become when you just take ahero or villian and just increase his power."

That was the guy. It was in Powerman and Iron Fist comic. The least they could do is explain in detail what happened. That's why I suspect he's a skrull. There are other strange things I noticed about Cage. I've seen Citizen steel a couple of times and I don't think he can take this Luke Cage. Cage is a much better fighter with a few tips from longtime partner, Iron Fist.

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#19  Edited By speedlgt

Steel wins...first...he looks way cooler and has a real costume! Cage is cool but I dont know if I like push hes gotten hes a great character and hero with Fist. I like him as a wolverine type on a team like when cap was leading the new avengers. His new role is well I dont know.

Any way also of importance is that steel being a DC guy on the JSA I am sure hes more powerful.

but no matter what Steel wins based on fashion alone! LOL

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speedlgt says:

"Steel wins...first...he looks way cooler and has a real costume! Cage is cool but I dont know if I like push hes gotten hes a great character and hero with Fist. I like him as a wolverine type on a team like when cap was leading the new avengers. His new role is well I dont know.Any way also of importance is that steel being a DC guy on the JSA I am sure hes more powerful.but no matter what Steel wins based on fashion alone! LOL"

I don't like Cage's current look. Do you think he was cooler than Steel when Cage had his afro, yellow shirt, & chain belt? I do. I haven't seen enough consistency in each character's strength and durability to say who would win for sure.

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#21  Edited By speedlgt

well I mean my thing is hes superhero..so why does he not look super. there nothing super about the THUG look. its like if they had a hispanic superhero and he had to look like a vato! a superhero is a super hero.

and I dont know Bro the whole yellow disco shirt was kinda lame

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#22  Edited By King_Saturn

Luke Cage should win. His body should be more durable than Steel's and he should be physically stronger as well

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#23  Edited By speedlgt

I dont think so..have we really seen what steel can do? I have seen cage in some tough fights in New avengers but alot those were not aginst what I would consider tough opponets. I mean he had a hard time with hand ninjas!

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#24  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

Cage wins.

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#25  Edited By speedlgt

you dont know that steel is not tough because we have not seen him do much. thus dont give a win based on default. I mean dude for a guy that as strong as cage should be he didnt do much to the skrull/elktra. hell echo did better than him!

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#26  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

speedlgt says:

"I dont think so..have we really seen what steel can do? I have seen cage in some tough fights in New avengers but alot those were not aginst what I would consider tough opponets. I mean he had a hard time with hand ninjas!"

But Steel isn't a tough opponent so what is your point?

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speedlgt says:

"you dont know that steel is not tough because we have not seen him do much. thus dont give a win based on default. I mean dude for a guy that as strong as cage should be he didnt do much to the skrull/elktra. hell echo did better than him! "

I know he's not tough because I know his powers and there is nothing I have seen him do that allows him to even scratch Cage.It's not a win based on default..Cage is more durable and way stronger. Echo didn't do better than Cage...Elektra killed Echo before she killed her.If she had not brought her back Echo would still be dead.

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#28  Edited By speedlgt

now now now...lets not get hasty we call this a no-contest

Cage really needs to do something....amazing...instead of acting tough!

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#29  Edited By vance_astro  Moderator

speedlgt says:

"now now now...lets not get hasty we call this a no-contestCage really needs to do something....amazing...instead of acting tough!"

I'm not saying it's no contest but Steel can't win.

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#30  Edited By Hadrelius

Cage is stronger now, how strong I don't know. He's now fighting guys like The Wrecker and took out Mr Hyde with no problem. I know Hyde is at 50 tons. His skin has gone from steel hard to titanium.

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#31  Edited By Ace High

Cage took a punch from magog and didn't move barely an inch. Magog was slapping around the JSA like they stole something and punched out Kingdom Come Superman who seems to be stronger than normal Superman then Steel punches him across the city. I think its safe to say that Steel would win this one.

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#32  Edited By Hadrelius
Ace High said:
"Cage took a punch from magog and didn't move barely an inch. Magog was slapping around the JSA like they stole something and punched out Kingdom Come Superman who seems to be stronger than normal Superman then Steel punches him across the city. I think its safe to say that Steel would win this one.
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I have to agree but I think u mean Steel. I feel he could take this now. He is indestructable and is most likely stronger.
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#33  Edited By Ace High

Lol yeah sorry dude, Citizen Steel took a punch from Magog :P Seeing as Cage ain't in the DCU and all...

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Cage has been upgraded to being able to lift 25 tonnes.

His skin although described as Steel hard or even as hard as titanium has been cut by metals other than Adamantium as long as their are hard enough of backed by sufficient force.
This was shown in the Cage comic. For instance, Vibranium, Osmium Steel and Secondary Adamantiu are all harder than normal steel or even Titanium.

As for who wins, I would pick Steel. Even though not an experienced hand to hand fighter, the recent showing in JSA when he clocks a speeding Metro bus with his body, just be stepping in the way. Steel does not move and is unfazed by the impact.
This shows his casual strength and huge mass and is a good example of his durability.

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#35  Edited By Ball Buster

cage wins

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#36  Edited By the creator

Ball Buster says

cage wins
Please explain why.
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#37  Edited By Ball Buster

I believe him to be a more experience fighter and physically tougher and stronger.

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#38  Edited By the creator
Ball Buster said:
"I believe him to be a more experience fighter and physically tougher and stronger."
Do you read the JSA comic ?

I only ask as Steel has recently been shown to perform some feats that I am sure show a strength and durability level far beyond Cage's. I agree that Cage is a far more expereinced fighter but if he cannot hurt his opponent, I dont see him winning.

Stopping a bus as he did while it was travelling at say 30 mph without moving or showing any damage is beyond Cage's ability to duplicate I think.
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#39  Edited By The_Martian
the creator said:
"Ball Buster said:
"I believe him to be a more experience fighter and physically tougher and stronger."
Do you read the JSA comic ?

I only ask as Steel has recently been shown to perform some feats that I am sure show a strength and durability level far beyond Cage's. I agree that Cage is a far more expereinced fighter but if he cannot hurt his opponent, I dont see him winning.

Stopping a bus as he did while it was travelling at say 30 mph without moving or showing any damage is beyond Cage's ability to duplicate I think.
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Yeah that is above Cage.
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#40  Edited By no name no face

cage

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#41  Edited By the creator
no name no face said:
cage
Make the case for why.
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Steel seems to be able to take this fight.

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#43  Edited By Zoom

Steel, oh so easily.

Let me get some scans for ya.

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#44  Edited By King_Saturn
Wait a Minute... didnt Citizen Steel take out one of Gog's legs in a JSA Comic ?
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#45  Edited By geraldthesloth

Citizen steel CURBSTOMPS cage.

This is too easy he punched down someone in one shot the Justice Society couldn't in there combined efforts

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#46  Edited By the creator
King Saturn said:
Wait a Minute... didnt Citizen Steel take out one of Gog's legs in a JSA Comic ?
Yes.
It looks like he is easily indestructible enough to not even feel Cage's attacks.
His strength looks sufficient to kill Cage will casual ease.
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#47  Edited By Sleuth

Citizen Steel.

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Citizen Steel stomps. 10/10.

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Spite citizen steel is above the like of KC superman