Luffy vs Zeref

In character

Take place in Wano

Current Luffy

Zeref without Fh

No prep

No knowledge

Starting distance : 30m

To win

One of the characters have to be ko

Who wins ?

Luffy has the speed and power, but Zeref has even without FH his immortality and regeneration. Don´t see Luffy putting him down.

Stalemate Zeref can't tag Luffy and Luffy can't kill Zeref

Luffy is for sure stronger and by a lot, but he can't put Zeref down. At best, he punches him really, really hard, but that's it. So, a stalemate. Unsure if Death Magic would work here...

Black Zeref is stronger than luffy.

Even without fairy heart, he's above august, Irene, brandish and giant gajeel in power(all of whom have country level feats), people really need to understand this.

Luffy solos the verse, next.

Zeref stomps

He's immortal, has an advantage in almost every stat over Luffy and has hax that Luffy has no answer to

Legit

Zeref without Fh isn't soloing op

You guys need to stop lmao

Zeref easily

Luffy can't really him put down.

Zeref slaps.

@eobard21: So when someone says luffy solos FT verse its OK, but when another says zeref solos OP then u speak out? Lol hypocrisy much?

@el_directo_: zeref above August and Irene? How

Usually the leader is stronger than his subordinates.

@plustenken: that depends on WHY their leader. Zeref is in charge because he’s king and immortal. Nothing about strength. He at least on par though

He's mastered arguably all the magics in FT and has pretty good durability feats. He should be above them because of those + immortality and his black arts.

@edgelord91: @edgelord91: Prove what u said on post 20.

Nothing in the series ever implied it was because he was king and immortal that he became their leader.

The spriggans are cocky as hell and wouldn't allow someone weaker than them to rule.

In his black form, zeref stalemated IG-natsu(who has the power of igneel[someone who gave acno a good fight while weakened] while not even using his 100%).

Dragon Irene was fascinated by base black zeref's power because he "casually" achieved a feat she wasn't able to do for centuries (with the snap of his fingers). She immediately became his follower after that.

Irene also implies to acnologia that zeref might be able to give him a good fight after he attains the fairy heart. If they were stronger than him they would have just attained FH for themselves and fought acno.

Are we seriously arguing if zeref > subordinates?

Just because he didn't fight very much in his black form doesn't mean he's not strong.

Its like doubting if the yonkos are stronger than their own subordinates, or aizen weaker than the espadas.

Zeref eventually

@el_directo_: your right totally forgot about his enchantment

Luffy has no answer to zeref's death hax

How many times has this been done? Zeref still solos Fodder Piece

@el_directo_: Fh zeref solos it

Not zeref without it

Now, zoro solos the verse, this is so sad.

@omnihater: nah

He is able to make an attack that threatens Kaido, and kaido solos the verse.

@omnihater: How does Kaido beat FH Zeref????

Sorry my fault, he solos the verse without the inmortal ones*

Luffy can't put zeref down because immortality. So Zeref when rubber boy runs out of stamina

zeref after a bit