Pre-timeskip Luffy
Vs
Tsunade
- Luffy's DF ability that makes him immune to blunt force is switched off so Tsunade can hurt him
- Both have basic knowledge
- Luffy thinks Tsunade killed Nami
- Tsunade thinks Luffy killed Sakura
- Win by death or KO
Pre-timeskip Luffy
Vs
Tsunade
- Luffy's DF ability that makes him immune to blunt force is switched off so Tsunade can hurt him
- Both have basic knowledge
- Luffy thinks Tsunade killed Nami
- Tsunade thinks Luffy killed Sakura
- Win by death or KO
It still isn't fair even using pre-time skip Luffy, even in base form he's stronger than Tsunade. And lol @ Katsuya ever tagging Luffy with... Anything. Luffy goes Gear 3, stamps on Tsunade and breaks every bone in her body.
Is this a serious thread? Ya Tsunade has maybe like hill/ small plateau level striking. But pre time skip luffy has probably similar if not more striking power in base form.
A gear 3 hit would one shot. But i mean Luffy is so much faster this doesnt even matter. She will get blitzed into existence. And her strikes probably wont even hurt luffy, by minuscule chance she can tag him.
Luffy, Tsunade's physical attacks are not doing anything here, her only chance is her chakra scrapels which Luffy has no counter, but problem is Luffy is just too fast for her. I doubt she will ever tag her.
I will give Luffy 7/10 only due to the reason if Luffy try to tank her chakra scrapels.
Idk luffy has the speed. Tsunade has more power and healing.combined with katsuya I might give it to her
The regen is being massively undersold here, being able to take hits from madaras susanoo and heal near instantly is a deciding factor she also tanked lightspeed movement without the yin seal btw. Being able to tag Madara is a viable speed feat also, Katsuyu is also a game changer if luffy hits her on accident she splits and melts him where he stands.
He wins but nowhere near as much as people are claiming here, it isn't even close to a stomp unless he goes gear 3 off the bat.
The regen is being massively undersold here, being able to take hits from madaras susanoo and heal near instantly is a deciding factor she also tanked lightspeed movement without the yin seal btw. Being able to tag Madara is a viable speed feat also, Katsuyu is also a game changer if luffy hits her on accident she splits and melts him where he stands.
He wins but nowhere near as much as people are claiming here, it isn't even close to a stomp unless he goes gear 3 off the bat.
I'm wanting to know what Light speed movement implies with feats cause I see this thrown around so casually in Naruto threads that I've recently been viewing as well as Moon or continent busting.
It's the jutsu itself that makes the movement dangerous, it isn't meant for humans only inanimate objects. The raikage were able to use it because of how durable their bodies are otherwise scientifically speaking the contraction of moving at that speed would utterly flatten you. Which brings something else to my attention....Tsunade healed before she reached the destination therefore based off on-panel evidence her regen is FTL. Luffy has to completely obliterate her if he wants the win.
The answer to your question though is lightspeed movement is just that...Moving at lightspeed. No one in NV is moving FTL (Except guy) however they can react that fast, Naruto is able to react to instantaneous teleportation by VoTE2, the moon/continent busting is more of a testament to their destructive capability. No one has moon busted but I could see Indra's arrow or six paths rasenshuriken being calced around that level but I personally go by whats on panel.
Luffy kicks her. The end. The guy doesn't have a problem with hitting women nor will he not go bonkers after thinking she killed his nakama. Only thing that healing would be good for is continuously letting Luffy stomp her body into a bag of dust. Until she dies. The guys got her massively overwhelmed in speed and strength that it doesn't really matter. He's going to go for the kill here. Gear 2 off the rip. Gear 3 for the finishers.
Oh I thought this post was 5 months old. Oh well.
It seems like there are some sensible people here.
Seeing what pre skip Luffy is capable of accomplishing against Tsunade, you guys have to put the op verse on an entirely different level by itself. If a pre skip Luffy that couldn't defeat a pacifista w/out the help of his crew could beat Tsunade, then the power scaling indicates that Post Skip Luffy is physically many levels above even the Madara and Eight Gates Guy. Especially when it comes to g4 bound/tank/snake man's attack potency. The feats prove it. One Piece is tai jutsu heavy. One of the primary weaknesses of so6p lvl characters.
Not to mention the future sight. Come on.
Oh I thought this post was 5 months old. Oh well.
It seems like there are some sensible people here.
Seeing what pre skip Luffy is capable of accomplishing against Tsunade, you guys have to put the op verse on an entirely different level by itself. If a pre skip Luffy that couldn't defeat a pacifista w/out the help of his crew could beat Tsunade, then the power scaling indicates that Post Skip Luffy is physically many levels above even the Madara and Eight Gates Guy. Especially when it comes to g4 bound/tank/snake man's attack potency. The feats prove it. One Piece is tai jutsu heavy. One of the primary weaknesses of so6p lvl characters.
Not to mention the future sight. Come on.
a pacifista is made out of very strong metal enough to completely be unharmed by zorro blade and with his physical stats, any naruto character punching it would have their fist shattered.
naruto was never a physical verse, charkra is used mostly in the way of ninjutsu there are only a few taijutsu specialist which tsunade is one of the top and the same goes for itachi and genjutsu, 99.9% of ninjas specialize in ninjutsu
@Raziel2014
This is true. Ninja due primarily use nin jutsu. There aren't many strong taijutsu users aside from the specialist you mentioned. That being said there are definitely ninjutsu and gen jutsu that can combat OP. If said person is fast enough and has potent DC. Speed and reaction time is Paramount in One Piece. Kakashi back in the original Naruto mentioned that typical ninja battles don't last long. Their stamina isn't much compared to OP either. I feel like most everyone would be a glass cannon like Cracker. The abilities of ninjas are formidable, but obsveration haki to armament punch = ko.
We've seen Luffy v Katakuri for more than 12hrs. Kata was speed blitzing g2 Luffy and was able to react to snakeman punches. I just don't feel that Naruto verse would stand a chance at reacting to this caliber oponent.
@streak619: Blunt force resistance is turned off according to the OP. I think people are sleeping on Tsunade here. Not really sure who wins this.
Tsunade stomps.
Katsuyu is invulnerable.
In h2h combat the odds are stacked really against Tsunade. Since blunt force doesn't work and that's all she really has.
With Katsuyu, she can win with acid attacks.
Katsuyu gets one shot and has no speed feats so wont even land a hit
Luffy will stomp before she even gets a chance to summon her
she has no chance
Also how is katsuyu invulnerable please explain
@alextheboss: She is slow and a very simple fighter she dies
@thenewguysnm1: Slow? Isn't she massively hypersonic? And if she is as strong as Sakura (who has a better striking feat than pre time skip Luffy) then she hits harder tha Luffy. I agree normally Luffy would win, but with his physical attack ammunity take away, idk.
@alextheboss: he still has some pretty impressive durability feats
And by feats she is slower then the raikage who is speed of lightning maybe a bit more she would just be overwhelmed
so... why does luffy stomp in the first place? cuz last i checked, the guy didnt have speed over without gear 2nd (which he will need the whole time, but cant do it, so he just lost his speed over her) and strength over her without gear 3rd.. oh, and what feats make him faster and stronger than her? if i remember correctly, tsunade fought orochi equal to equal, whose weakened form blitzed 6 tailed naruto. is luffy that much faster than 4 tailed naruto? what about strength? anybody get feats that surpasses her breaking madara's susanoo, which tanked a giant sage rasengan?
@thenewguysnm1: How fast is Luffy though?
@obitoad: I’m on mobile so can’t pull up any scans for you if I wanted to right now but the sage rasengan is chakra based I don’t think the output is very transitional when comparing Tsunade’s striking vs Rasengan against a susanoo. The gears amp him up but even without his passive resistance he still has solid durability feats to things he is vulnerable to as he has tanked armor piercing Gatling rounds, been skewered, poisoned severely and so forth. As far as strength goes Luffy probably has her pretty out matched and strength feats is something he has a plethora of.
well, if u can get feats (no scans needed, but chapters or episode numbers would be nice lol). anyhow, she tanked madara's susanoo sword, which is>>>>>>> to ms sasuke's susanoo sword, which is calced at multi-city block lvl. and she tanked them more than once. is luffy stronger than madara's susanoo?
@thenewguysnm1: How fast is Luffy though?
faster then lightning
@thenewguysnm1: Is there proof of that?
@thenewguysnm1: Is there proof of that?
he literally dogged lightning pre power up
then kalifla(who is relative fodder) also dogged lightning casually
tbh i just see luffy wrecking her with a gatling
@thenewguysnm1: Can I get the scans?
This is pre time skip Luffy.
@alextheboss: gimme time
@thenewguysnm1: she can’t. She was proven to be inconsistent with that speed. You do know lightning speed varies right? He not faster than lightning maybe average speed of lightning.
@thenewguysnm1: she can’t. She was proven to be inconsistent with that speed. You do know lightning speed varies right? He not faster than lightning maybe average speed of lightning.
When exactly was she proven to be inconsistent with that speed?
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