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#51 Edited by Alphapunk (1776 posts) - - Show Bio

Wouldn't Luffy be faster than guy? Before the time skip they had to learn how to use Soru, they were already Superhuman at this point but their enemies would disappear and reappear in a Dragonball type way, they were far outclassed in speed, they learned it before the time skip. Luffy must be many times Hypersonic by now when he isn't using 2nd gear.

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#52 Posted by ValarMelkor (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

8th Gate Guy stomps. Anything below that loses.

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#53 Posted by WF_Mxyzptlk (6794 posts) - - Show Bio

8th Gate Guy stomps. Anything below that loses.

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#54 Posted by The_New_Avenger (1582 posts) - - Show Bio

Give Guy a Kunai and he wins.

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#55 Posted by tsoj (3602 posts) - - Show Bio

Haki is basically willpower, right? So wouldn't that mean that anyone with good enough willpower would basically have Haki? Y'know, like Will of Fire or Springtime of Youth? Either way, I'm going with Guy.

Also, I know Luffy has resistance to blunt force, but to say he has a complete immunity is NLF. Plus, rubber can snap, after all. So what says that a strong enough hit, one stronger than any other attack Luffy has gotten, won't just snap him in half like a rubber band?

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#56 Posted by iUseMyCajonas (4236 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsoj: Because he's been hit by blunt force stronger than anything Guy has ever shown he could do. So far the dude has practically been invincible to all blunt force damage, I don't see it changing for this fight.

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#57 Posted by ValarMelkor (5165 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy has never been hit with blunt force attacks stronger than 8th Gate Guy's.

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#58 Posted by katanalauncher (3642 posts) - - Show Bio

8 gate guy stomps one piece verse (other than logia maybe), Luffy stands no chance.

7th gate Guy would lose to post skip luffy in a good fight.

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#59 Posted by Seraph_King160 (131 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure Luffy has this

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#60 Posted by RukelnikovFTW (6142 posts) - - Show Bio

Is luffy resistant to fire? Because morning peacock is basically a fire attack.

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#61 Posted by KCMinato (2458 posts) - - Show Bio

8th Gate Guy stomps. Anything below that loses.

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#62 Posted by Just_Banter (12413 posts) - - Show Bio

It depends on how willing and how quickly Gai goes into the upper gates, and also if he pulls out a Kunai or not.

Leaning Luffy though.

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#63 Posted by XioKenji (3372 posts) - - Show Bio

@tsoj said:

Haki is basically willpower, right? So wouldn't that mean that anyone with good enough willpower would basically have Haki? Y'know, like Will of Fire or Springtime of Youth? Either way, I'm going with Guy.

Also, I know Luffy has resistance to blunt force, but to say he has a complete immunity is NLF. Plus, rubber can snap, after all. So what says that a strong enough hit, one stronger than any other attack Luffy has gotten, won't just snap him in half like a rubber band?

Haki isn't really a form of willpower , it's more like Chi/Chakara but requires training and honing to appear and be usable ,Else Luffy would've gotten Haki from episode 1 for being willful.

Guy should have it , Luffy should be hurt by Guy's chakara infused punches even with his blunt force resistance.

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#64 Posted by Ardentias (245 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy wins, don't see Guy going 8th Gate against a stranger for no reason

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#65 Posted by Reno117 (2932 posts) - - Show Bio

Might Guy wins!

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#66 Posted by BurstChaos (11 posts) - - Show Bio

Give Gai haki at Coby's level and he would instantly stomp through the 7th Gate.

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#67 Posted by Nite_Nite (2348 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy still wrecks Guy. Luffy already outclassed him in speed. If Guy goes eight gates they're only gonna be closer to which Luffy can just go gear 4. Ppl are confusing the flashiness of eight gates with the actual potential of harm. One Luffy is rubber, two Luffy is physically outclassing Guy, three Luffy will have the added benefit of Haki in combat.

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#68 Posted by great_black_star (3340 posts) - - Show Bio

8 gate guy stomps one piece verse (other than logia maybe), Luffy stands no chance.

7th gate Guy would lose to post skip luffy in a good fight.

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#69 Posted by KingH (1339 posts) - - Show Bio

You all are saying stuff implying guy actually has the chance to get anything off, luffy blitzes bad one shots. Guy has shit durability feats. He'd get his arm broken just trying to parry luffy.

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#70 Posted by Amnesiak (3665 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

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#71 Posted by IceDemonKing (9998 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy

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#72 Posted by comicvinepoozer1 (6391 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy oneshots base guy before he goes into gates

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#73 Posted by Chris-Sama (3624 posts) - - Show Bio

Complete mismatch luffy is leagues above anybody in naruto in speed and strength, he kills guy before guy even attempts to attack

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#74 Posted by KidJesusNinjaBS (10 posts) - - Show Bio

@chris-sama: Meanwhile the whole straw hat crew gets slaughtered by Madara. How fast is Luffy? Hypersonic? Lmao. Young Sauske dodged sound it self. And Young Lee with Weights on was at least two times faster than Sauske. And Young Lee without weights was got at least three times faster. It is appearent since he completely outspeed Garra's sand after removing his weights. Then we also have the gates. And PTS Gai was much faster than Lee. And Lee with gate speed blitzed even Madara and cut him in half. With the boost from Naruto. The same Madara who was casually dodging Raikage's attacks. And the same Madara who speed blitzed all nine tailed beasts with his clones. And the same Madara who absorbed all those tailed beasts increasing speed, reaction, and strength tenfold. And then Gai comes in with the eight gates and murdered Madara. Like he lithrally melted him. If Gai had more time he would have killed Madara. Madara who could regenerate so fast that he regenerated half his body in seconds

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#75 Posted by KidJesusNinjaBS (10 posts) - - Show Bio

@nite_nite: No Luffy does not how fast is Luffy? Because Eight gates guy was fast enough to morph space and Normal guy kept up with Kakashi who when he was young cut a lighting bolt in half even after he has no chakra left.

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#76 Edited by Jman88933 (1185 posts) - - Show Bio

I'll firstly say that I haven't finished Shippuden just yet. So most of my knowledge will come from the Ninja Storm games.

But it was stated by Kakashi at part 1 of Naruto that the Gates Of Life form can surpass the power of a Hokage. And Hashirama Senju is able to fight competitively with The Nine Tails, a beast that is Multi-Continent level. Already being leagues above Luffy in terms of everything he can do. Luffy's precognition Haki, although lets him dodge high speed lasers, it doesn't really compare to Guy since the dude can create fire from the air just with punches and blitzed Rikudo Madara and distorted the space around him by pure speed. In terms of physical strength, Luffy barely takes it over Guy, due to Gear 3rd. But what it all comes down to is the same reasons why Naruto beats Luffy. More fighting experience, more destructive attacks, a form with the potential to surpass the strongest fighters in Naruto (Including Naruto himself, who is moon level), and faster speeds.

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#77 Edited by Raziel2014 (1328 posts) - - Show Bio
@kidjesusninjabs said:

@nite_nite: No Luffy does not how fast is Luffy? Because Eight gates guy was fast enough to morph space and Normal guy kept up with Kakashi who when he was young cut a lighting bolt in half even after he has no chakra left.

kakashi cant cut lightning if he has no charkra bro, a ninjas ninjutsu only works when they have charkra without it they are basically fodder, plus cutting lightning is not exactly a feat because cutting can be done 100 of different ways of which some dont require speed to do, we were never shown the feat so by all definition kakashi could of just jumped into a lightning storm and use raikiri and cut lightning, by this definition luffy also somehow manage to stop lightning with his fist + golden ball.

Pre post time skip luffy can defeat gai up to 6th gate

Post time skip easily kills gai pre 8th gate with ease if he even gets teh chance to use the gates as a single hit from luffy would probably kill him.

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#78 Posted by thedcfanboy3 (75 posts) - - Show Bio

7 gates wins high dif

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#79 Posted by Thenewguysnm1 (7530 posts) - - Show Bio

luffy stomps the glass canon

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#80 Posted by Aimegang (69 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy

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#81 Posted by deactivated-5ae6527167c26 (2058 posts) - - Show Bio

Pretty sure Luffy dies

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#82 Posted by GohanDorado (404 posts) - - Show Bio
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#83 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

Gai puts a hole in Luffy. Restrict 8 gates and Luffy might win. Otherwise he gets speed stomped, Gai was so fast that he was bending space. He is out of Luffy's ballpark right now.

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#84 Edited by SocaJunkie (8627 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy wins if he gets the chance to open the 7th Gate before Luffy's blitz lands. Though because he has no knowledge and it isn't in character for him to start out with Gate 7 against someone he doesn't know, I'm not seeing Luffy losing. Also any talk of bending space is irrelevant since that's only achieved in 8th Gate and Guy really isn't using that here.

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#85 Posted by KingGuinness (1893 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy wins unless Guy opens the 8th Gate.

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#86 Posted by Chad_Duby (5681 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy wins.

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#87 Posted by deactivated-5b17f1b84ea5f (1752 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy wins.

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#88 Posted by oceanmaster21 (15356 posts) - - Show Bio

lUFFY FTW

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#89 Edited by iUseMyCajonas (4236 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy still outstats in every category comfortably.

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#90 Edited by HitTheAssasin (8228 posts) - - Show Bio

People act like Guy will just use the 8th Gate in-character under usual circumstances, but that's not happening.

Realistically, this fight will probably end up being 7th Gate Guy vs Bounce/Snakeman Luffy, in which the latter can probably oneshot with a punch, but is also viable to getting stomped by Hirudora. Right now I'm thinking Luffy wins though.

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#91 Posted by GXrevs06 (4771 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy is immune to blunt force truama, which Guy is all about, so he stomps

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#92 Posted by Ratava (9189 posts) - - Show Bio

In character luffy stomps

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#93 Posted by jasonhitto (1341 posts) - - Show Bio

Guy stomp luffy here

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#94 Posted by GoldenCellForm2 (202 posts) - - Show Bio

8 Gates will destroy the entire OP verse. 100 times multiples from base and moon+ level strength, able to injure Juubi Madara .

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#95 Posted by GoldenCellForm2 (202 posts) - - Show Bio

@gxrevs06: No he isn't. If the attack is strong enough it will hurt and even kill luffy, as noticed in his fight with Katakuri he can be beaten up and kicked and punched around to a bloody pulp if the person is stronger than him. The immune to blunt force thing only works if he is stronger than the opponent.

And 8 Gates Guy STOMPS.

8 Gates Feats:

Evening Elephant (Able to cause noticeable damage to Rikudo Madara and would have given him "trouble" in successful, consecutive strikes), Small Planet level with Night Guy (Obliterated Rikudo Madara's left side, nearly killing him in the process. Also, Night Guy was stated to be a stronger attack than Evening Elephant.)

Blitzed Juubi Madara and distorted the space around him by pure speed.)

Biju Mode Naruto would win against Whole Cake Island Luffy. This thread should be locked in all honesty. Mismatch. Country level Luffy vs Moon level 8 gates ? How is this fair

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#96 Posted by Ratava (9189 posts) - - Show Bio

apparently people dont know what "in character" means....

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#97 Posted by Thenewguysnm1 (7530 posts) - - Show Bio

People act like Guy will just use the 8th Gate in-character under usual circumstances, but that's not happening.

Realistically, this fight will probably end up being 7th Gate Guy vs Bounce/Snakeman Luffy, in which the latter can probably oneshot with a punch, but is also viable to getting stomped by Hirudora. Right now I'm thinking Luffy wins though.

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guy wont go 7th straight away and will get one shot also lacks speed to tag luffy

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#98 Edited by GoldenCellForm2 (202 posts) - - Show Bio

@ratava: In character Luffy doesn't usually start off in Gear 4 in either, only when he has no other choice, since it has a time limit. If both are allowed to use full power Guy will stomp

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#99 Edited by Ratava (9189 posts) - - Show Bio
@goldencellform2 said:

@ratava: In character Luffy doesn't usually start off in Gear 4 in either, only when he has no other choice, since it has a time limit. If both are allowed to use full power Guy will stomp

and luffy doesnt need gear 4 to win this fight

and of course both are allowed to use their max power

but long before that luffy will ko guy

the only chance for guy is to go into his higher gates but in-character he doesnt do that right from the start

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#100 Posted by Helloman (30115 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy wins.