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#1 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

-Speed equalised

-In Character

-H2H combat only - no swords,energy attacks or whatnot allowed

-Win by KO.

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#2 Posted by DrPepperMan (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel

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#3 Posted by omriamar (7068 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

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#4 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel.

He split a hill at BOS with a tig.

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#5 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

Hmm. Bump

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#6 Edited by SocaJunkie (8331 posts) - - Show Bio

Blunt force won’t do anything to Luffy unless Meliodas has ever punched significantly harder than the force required to split an island in half.

If he hasn’t then I’m a bit baffled why people are saying he wins unless they’ve forgotten that Luffy is rubber.

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#7 Posted by Malzahaar (1001 posts) - - Show Bio

Blunt force won’t do anything to Luffy unless Meliodas has ever punched significantly harder than the force required to split an island in half.

If he hasn’t then I’m a bit baffled why people are saying he wins unless they’ve forgotten that Luffy is rubber.

I forgot he's resistant to blunt damage. lol.

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#9 Posted by KingZod (3911 posts) - - Show Bio

Meliodas

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#10 Edited by HitTheAssasin (7876 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy being magically immune to blunt force because rubber is pretty much an NLF. Meliodas bodies him on account of far better strength, durability and regeneration.

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#11 Edited by SocaJunkie (8331 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin: It’s not a NLF, just go by his best feat in that area and see if Meliodas has ever topped that by a significant degree, I wouldn’t know since I’m not up to date on Sins but if Meliodas wins here then he must have a striking feat exponentially better than splitting an island in half.

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#12 Posted by Sy8000 (35069 posts) - - Show Bio

Thriller Bark was a tiny island. I'm not opposed to Luffy being immune to blunt force at this tier, but that feat doesn't prove it.

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#13 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7876 posts) - - Show Bio

@socajunkie: Two things. First of all, I'm pretty sure the island splitting thing would be an outlier if that was an average or bigger sized island, since no one in One Piece has physical feats at that level again after that, at least not without scaling.

Second of all, how big was Thriller Bark again? Was it actually island sized in the way we define it on Comicvine, or was it sub-mountain sized? Somehow I've got this feeling it's the second one, since that would be far more consistent and logical...

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#14 Posted by haoalchemist (6196 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy on sight.

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#15 Edited by SocaJunkie (8331 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin:

‘Two things. First of all, I'm pretty sure the island splitting thing would be an outlier if that was an average or bigger sized island, since no one in One Piece has physical feats at that level again after that, at least not without scaling.’

Prime Chinjao split an ‘Ice Continent’ in half so it wouldn’t be an outlier, some translations say it was a Kingdom however I think the official translation was continent. We also have just the reverberations of Shanks and Mihawk sparring shaking the Red Line so island splitting with physical strength wouldn’t be an outlier for someone in Moria’s tier with an amp.

‘Second of all, how big was Thriller Bark again? Was it actually island sized in the way we define it on Comicvine, or was it sub-mountain sized? Somehow I've got this feeling it's the second one, since that would be far more consistent and logical...’

It’s giant ship the size of a small island which used to be an actual island before it drifted off from a different sea.

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#16 Posted by deactivated-5c60dc252a2af (5801 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel 9/10.

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#17 Posted by WhatamIseeing (1601 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy

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#18 Posted by GXrevs06 (4403 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel body him. Blunt force can hurt him. Kuro kicked him the head and bruised him

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#19 Posted by Thenewguysnm1 (7525 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel.

He split a hill at BOS with a tig.

Luffy has similar if not superior feats

Also that was with a weapon

Luffy wrecks him at long range with gatling mel can literally do nothing

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#20 Posted by DrPepperMan (6288 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin: I don't see why that would be an outlier. Whitebeard while nerfed to a corpse accidentally split marineford.

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#21 Posted by Djoss (557 posts) - - Show Bio

@drpepperman: The main problem is that the " island" that Moria split was so small, i would say that Luffy KKG feat is way better and is not even close to be island level.

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#22 Posted by Gaoron (8226 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, comparable if not superior strikings in G4 and superior durability even pre-timeskip. Mel gets KO'ed after couple King Kong punches.

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#23 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@malzahaar said:

Mel.

He split a hill at BOS with a tig.

Luffy has similar if not superior feats

Also that was with a weapon

Luffy wrecks him at long range with gatling mel can literally do nothing

I'm not against your argument, but he actually did use a twig, not a weapon.

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#24 Posted by Thenewguysnm1 (7525 posts) - - Show Bio

@thenewguysnm1 said:
@malzahaar said:

Mel.

He split a hill at BOS with a tig.

Luffy has similar if not superior feats

Also that was with a weapon

Luffy wrecks him at long range with gatling mel can literally do nothing

I'm not against your argument, but he actually did use a twig, not a weapon.

A twig is a weapon

I know that he used it

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#25 Edited by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@thenewguysnm1 said:
@claymore_fools said:
@thenewguysnm1 said:
@malzahaar said:

Mel.

He split a hill at BOS with a tig.

Luffy has similar if not superior feats

Also that was with a weapon

Luffy wrecks him at long range with gatling mel can literally do nothing

I'm not against your argument, but he actually did use a twig, not a weapon.

A twig is a weapon

I know that he used it

Yeah but the feat is based off his physical strength since he needed it to split the mountain in half anyway. He couldn't have magically done it without putting some force into it. It's not really the twig that caused the feat. (twigs are frail and not very dense which is why the twig dispersed once Mel had split the mountain).

And a twig isn't exactly a weapon. Unless you want to argue that it's similar to a sword or a kunai, which doesn't add up at all.

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#26 Posted by Jko1 (3000 posts) - - Show Bio
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#28 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio
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#29 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@claymore_fools: It was a hill not a mountain

Well it's generally accepted as small mountain, but tbh when you compare the angle it's shown at to Meliodas, at best it's probably a large hill.

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#30 Posted by Thenewguysnm1 (7525 posts) - - Show Bio
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#31 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

@claymore_fools: No one accepts at as a mountain lol

Well...they do,unless you don't view many NNT threads. Just not a big one.

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#32 Posted by jc9865 (555 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel. He used his fists in his fight with a near noon escanor and was still dominating.

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#33 Posted by KingZod (3911 posts) - - Show Bio
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#34 Posted by Claymore_Fools (707 posts) - - Show Bio

Lol bump

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#35 Edited by Blackice709 (1758 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel

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#36 Posted by Jko1 (3000 posts) - - Show Bio

Bump

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#37 Posted by Jko1 (3000 posts) - - Show Bio

Also I think Luffy wins.

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#38 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7876 posts) - - Show Bio

Probably still Mel.

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#39 Posted by SkySanji (4582 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy due to Blunt force durability unless Meliodas has Island level punches which still wouldn't matter since that was a PTS Luffy who took the hit

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#40 Posted by Nelomaxwell (14165 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel

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#41 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7876 posts) - - Show Bio

@skysanji: That hit wasn't actually island level though. A stronger version of the Moriah that hit Luffy split a small island in half with his punch. Emphasis on small.

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#42 Posted by WorldofRuin6 (2582 posts) - - Show Bio

Current Mel stomps. Make it Unsealed or Post resurrection Mel, and Luffy could win cuz he's a rubber man.

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#43 Edited by Gaoron (8226 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy, better durability and hits as hard if not harder.

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#44 Posted by Yox (349 posts) - - Show Bio

Luffy with his blunt force resistance combined with his precog (speed is equal) gives luffy two major advantages.

Which should give him the win.

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#45 Posted by FaradaySloth (8466 posts) - - Show Bio

Mel punches Luffy's head off.

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#46 Posted by Barista_Nate (56 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin: Luffy can see the future, blunt force immunity to at least Island level, is extremely durable, and has armament haki to deal with blunt force higher than island level.

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#47 Edited by Yray (461 posts) - - Show Bio

If Luffy can use king Kong gun here and manages to land a hit he definitely would one or two shot Mel and in base his blunt force durability is at the very least island lvl g4 just takes his blunt force durability to another level higher.. without Haki Mel stands no chance in blunt force

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#48 Posted by HitTheAssasin (7876 posts) - - Show Bio
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#49 Posted by shirso (3853 posts) - - Show Bio

I don't see how Luffy loses this.

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#50 Posted by Barista_Nate (56 posts) - - Show Bio

@hittheassasin: In reply to you about blunt force durability. His default durability is already very high, with haki its even higher. Higher than meliodas can deliver on a consistent basis.