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#1  Edited By john_doe_0897

Fight to the death. Goku at end of Dragon Ball. Who do you think wins? Takes place on abandoned Namek. Luffy is unrestricted

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Is this a stomp for Goku? I thought restricting Goku and Unrestricting Luffy would be more fair

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Kaka crabby patty wins

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Kaioken x4 in the Saiyan Saga stopped Gatlic Gun, which is a planet buster. So eve at this point it's a mismatch,on top of the fact that this is x5. The thing about this match though is that there is no specific version of Goku so we must go with the most current one. The most current one is stronger than the Goku that went SSJ3 in the Buu saga. Currently Goku is galaxy, universal, whatever fking op tier people decide to put him in. The point being that this is such an uber curbstomp it's not funny. Goku starting from Namek Saga could solo the OP verse. The only person you could make an argument for (when Goku just decides to blow up the op verse), IF anyone were to survive,is Enel since he has the only feats of being able to make it to space since he went to live on the moon. Even then what is a couple million volts to someone who has tanked planet busting+ attacks. Maybe teen Goku could be a better matchup? Idk, I've never really got into much of the original DB.

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I think he means teen goku the one that fought piccolo at the tournament

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#12  Edited By PreCrisisBardock

Goku.

BTW Guys he's talking about Part 1 Goku

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23rd Budokai Goku is still enough to win. Strongest version of Goku that Luffy can beat is Kid Goku from the King Piccolo fight.

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If you mean end of dragon ball, as in the dragon ball anime and not manga (the entire dragon ball manga is just called dragon ball), then Luffy's fourth Gear could beat Goku. If you meant end of series Goku, Goku stomps easily in base form.

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Unless Luffy can hit harder than this in gear 4, and I've yet to see him do it, there's no way he can take this version Goku down.....

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the calculations done on goku for death battle are INCORRECT goku was powerful enough to destroy planets BEFORE he even became a supersaiyan(ssj) : http://www.comicvine.com/goku/4005-19765/forums/goku-is-faster-than-light-1464475/#68 http://www.screwattack.com/news/death-battle-erred-goku-vs-superman LET ME GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHO YOU ARE DEALING WITH goku CAN use instant transmission in fights like he did with his fight with cooler SUPER SAYIN ONE INCREASES GOKUS BASE POWER BY 50, SUPER SAIYN TWO multiplys by 2 than by he power giving by ss1 increasing his power by 100 times and Super Saiyan 2 is twice as strong as regular Super Saiyan, so the form multiplies the Saiyan's base power by 100x times its normal amount. It was stated by Akira Toriyama that the form was meant to be 10x what Goku had previously accomplished, his previous max being the Kaio-ken x20(kaiken can go up to 100x), making Super Saiyan's multiplier 200x Base, In Daizenshuu 7 the form is said to multiply the Saiyan's power by 50x times its normal amountSuper Saiyan 3 form gives goku four times the strength of a Super Saiyan 2, so it multiplies a Super Saiyan's power by 8x times and the Saiyan's base power by 400x times its normal amount, ver a super saiyin 2 AND GOKU CAN TURN INTO A SUPERSAIYIN GOD SUPER SAIYIN(super saiyin in god form) power of this form is great enough to allow Goku to fight on par with the God of Destruction Beerus, who had effortlessly defeated Super Saiyan 3 Goku, Ultimate Gohan, Majin Buu,Super Saiyan Gotenks, and a fully powered Super Saiyan 2Vegeta. In fact, it is so powerful that none of the Z Fighters can sense Goku's energy while he is in this form, the form even makes its user completely immune to Demigra's Dark Magic. This form also allows the user to sense godly ki. In addition, Goku as a Super Saiyan God is given a signature attack calledKamehameha Rebirth in video games. As powerful as it is, however, it also has drawbacks: the form drains the user's energy reserves fairly quickly, thus creating a time limit, although it is speculated by Beerus that this limitation could be overcome. Unlike the other Super Saiyan forms, Super Saiyan God is not a permanent transformation. In Goku's case, during the events of the film, he is seen losing the form, yet retaining the power, allowing him to continue to battle Beerus on equal grounds in his base and Super Saiyan formsmaster roshi blew up the moon by mistake poccolo destroyed the moon and his beam killed it in two seconds when he was trying to put out a fire in dragonball and goku was faster than light speed in dragonball and goku could destroy a planet n saiyin saga as in point he blocked vegetas GALIK GUN KAKAROT LETS SEE WHAT YOU GOT and in cell saga cell was JUST about to destroy the SOLAR SYSTEM(keep in mind that cell was able to amp up his blast to beyond that point and that IT TAKES the power of 20,000 average supernovas to TRULY destroy the solar sytem you need the power of 20,000 supernovas(square law 1 was used to determine the amount of energy but keep in mind i think the number was low balled check the links on the one about cell AND IT IS CANON AND STATED THAT CELL WASN'T BLUFFING when he said solar stem destroy) to destroy the oort cloud which marks the end of our solar sytem and the size of our solar sytem is massive its as much as 100,000 AU or 1.6 light years in diameter pluto is only 30-47 AU from the sun as a comparision) BUT GOHAN STOPPED HIM vegeta's father destroyed three planets easily almost at the same time superman(i think postcrisis) CANNOT survive a solarsytem grad blast goku's kaiken attack goes up to TIMES ONE HUNDRED 100(stated in offical guides), ALSO keep in mind that the dragon ball z universe/galaxy is bigger than our's AND KEep in mind that super saiyns are holding back their power since they don't want to destroy the planet and that when mecha frieza(multiple planet buster) came to earth he was stonger than ever and trucks kills him easily and trucks is as strong as goku in SS1 and keep in mind that vegeta in saiyin saga survived the planet busting kamehameha that goku hit him with this means it will take more that a planet explosion(either punch, kick, etc) to kill goku and i'll give you this supes can lift planets but goku can destroy them easily and keep in min snake way strenches 1/3 of the universe(how long would it take to fly one third or a third of the way in space and back to earth?) in dbz YES goku can use instant tranmission in a fight he ONLY needs to focus when teleporting across the universe or or dimensions plus goku(and other super saiyns) is ALWAYS holding back since they woulod destroy the galaxygoku'd combat speed is MUCH faster than his traveling speed goku's strength is not something to think on since its his energy attacks that are the most powerful goku in saiyn saga was powerful enough to destroy the earth and supes gets knocked out when he's hit with planet grade explosions and SOMETMES WTIHOUT being sundipped supes has said he needs to pound away at a planet to destroy it "I'm capable of shattering a planet If i pound away at anything long enough it goes down!" goku doesn't need to repeatedly blast a planet to destroy it just one and done IF AND WHEN HE WANTS the problem is that his villians are strong/durable and adept enough to to block it and ya'll say supes is gonna get goku wth the moon buster FACE PALM i like to say thats its canon that MASTER ROSHI IN DRAGONBALL(KID GOKU) could destroy the moon easily(since master roshi was trying to put out a fire and not destroy the moon) and BEFORE raditz showed up the z fighters resisted the pull of the deadzone opened by garlic Jr twice which acts as a BLACKHOLE(blackholes rip matter apart at the subatomic level and light cant escape) note that the dbz heros and villians can control the level of destruction that their waves cause easily and control they dissipate thats why cell was able to fire a solar system buster kamehameha at Gohan and not have it blow up the planet YET and the most damage it cause to the planet was a FEW VERY STRONG earthquakes the reason this whole supes vs goku and goku wins started because people know that goku strength is not to be cared about its his energy projection that people are scared of since getting hit with a kamehameha blast is like getting pimp slapped by a ENTIRE PLANET OR MULTIPLE PLANETS OR A SOLAR SYSTEM(cell is a solar system destroyer) and you're missing the point why would goku even NEED to lift a planet in the dbz universe supes can MOVE multiple planets while goku can DESTROY multiple planets at once(it takes 8 or so quitillion megatons to destroy one earth which goku had when fighting vegeta on earth in saiyn saga) and cell could destroy solar systems and goku in the buu saga was stronger than cell so he could simply blast a solar system away with little effort and since goku can block planet buster blasts with one hand OF COURSE he can effortlessly survive planet explosions supes can't survive a explosion from a solar system or a galaxy explosion and goku can use instant transmission in combat he ONLY needs to concentrate when going accross the universe or dimensions when goku turns into SSG for the his power increase to the point where he could fight beeurs(galaxy buster) and hold his own for a while even though it lasted five minutes he power goes a 200 fold(even though goku was at that level after the buu(galaxy buster and dimension destryer) saga) butt hurt people AFTER the fight with ginyu and goku healed he was a MULTIPLE PLANET BUSTER EASILY since he took on frieza in his final form(frieza wasn't at full power at all) USING ONLY KAIO KEN and HIS BASE FORM(which he fought him in half the fight) and the afterimage or clones techniqe would would hold off supes while goku made a spirit bomb then kill him and a sundipped supes can't survive galaxy bust PERIOD and goku in base form in his prime AT BASE---kaioken can take fight supes half the fight then supes sundippes since he out of power so then goku starts going SS1-2--3-GOD PLUS when Bojack and his gangtraveled FROM THE EDGE OF THE GALAXY TO EARTH WITHOUT A SPACESHIP IT TOOK THEM LESS THAN A MONTH AND ALL DBZ CHARTAERS, THEIR COMBAT SPEED, REACTION ,etc IS FASTer than their traveling speed http://www.kanzenshuu.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=7&t=9635&p=230252 In daizenshuu it is described as "A hyperspace created through heightened ki, which sucks in everything. It is a space which freezes even one’s body and soul, and which lets not even a streak of light escape.On TV Garlic Jr. planned to suck up the Heavenly Realm, but Gohan destroyed Planet Makyo, and Garlic Jr. was once again sealed inside it himself." And of course the only thing that has that much gravity to suck in even light is a black hole. Also it has been translated to black hole wave in some media and we have ads that call it a black hole http://s17.photobucket.com/user/tanookikuribo/media/suncoastad-2.jpg.html "Goku and Piccolo vs a Black hole?" So pretty safe to say it is a black hole. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-S_yb2Nr_HQ&index=2&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq- (goku dodges it first THEN uses instant transmission which he CAN do in a fight without concentration he ONLY has to concentrat when going accross the universe or dimentions and not for more than a second ) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CY0UrHvzD1g&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FD872yk1_6w vegeta's father destroys three planets(not canon but gives an idea of power not power levels thats it) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWPMmv56w0E https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUBYcr4qBhY&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq-&index=3 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=69DezxYYaxs&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq-&index=4 i know that power levels are usless but very good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8FBur43n1zA https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NJ9VO84-rp8 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1-n_u8AT5ck&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq-&index=15 Vegeta final flash would destroy the Earth but he makes the attack smaller like Trunks says. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/3/37144/2056829-dragon_ball_70697.jpg http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/scale_small/3/37144/2056833-dragon_ball_70701.jpg Vegeta says he has to control his energy to not blow up earth. http://www.mangareader.net/dragon-ball/352/10 King Kai says if Goku doesn't control spirit bomb it could easily destroy the planet he's on. http://static.comicvine.com/uploads/original/11111/111114806/3777692-7391158294-71714.jpg Goku warp Kamehameha can destroy the planet but he only makes a crater with it. Cells Kamehameha can solar system bust but only makes a crater. And logically if you think about it roshi Kamehameha can already blow up the moon, and almost any ki attack is above roshi Kamehameha but it doesn't blow up as big as the moon so logically they control the AOE(Area Of Effect). Here's yet another speed feat for DBZ characters. The current size of our universe is estimated to be 91,000,000,000 light-years, but it may be larger and possibly infinite. Anyway, since the DBZ universe has a finite size I think it's reasonable to base it from the current size of our universe as it has been calculated so far. Now, as anyone who has seen DBZ knows that Beerus and Whis traveled from Beerus's temple to King Kai's planet, and they didn't just teleport there; they flew there over empty space. Thus, we can scale this to the size of our universe. For the purposes of this analysis, however, I shall be generous and say that Beerus didn't travel from the lowest point in the universe thus he and Whis flew upward, from the midway point, therefore, I will section off a quarter of the DBZ universe. Half for 91,000,000,000 light-years would be 45,500,000,000 light-years and a quarter of all of it would be 22,750,000,000 light-years, but... we will be absolutely generous and round it down to 22,000,000,000 light-years. Now, according to my online research, there are 5,865,696,000,000 miles in a light-year. Once again, to be generous, we will round this to 5,000,000,000,000 miles, even though 6,000,000,000,000 seems like a better choice. Now to get the number that we need, we will multiply 5,000,000,000,000 miles x 22,000,000,000, which equals out to 110,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 or exactly 110 sextillion miles in 22,000,000,000 light-years. Now, according to Whis himself, they traveled that distance in 26 minutes. Simple multiplication, multiply sixty seconds times 26 and you get 1,560 seconds in 26 minutes. However, we will again be generous and round it up to 2,000 seconds, that it took Whis and Beerus that long to fly over to King Kai's planet and not 1,000 or 1,500 seconds. Using simple math, Whis and Beerus were traveling at a speed over 55,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 55 quintillion miles per second, or roughly 300,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light... but that's Whis's travel speed, not Beerus's, so we will now look at Beerus's travel speed. Akira Toriyama himself has come out and confirmed that in the Battle of Gods movie Whis was a 15, Beerus was a 10, and Super Saiyan God Goku was a 6. Thus, this is pretty easy to scale. As a 15, Whis is 1.5 greater than Beerus, so if his travel speed is 55,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second, we simply divide by 3, then multiply by 2. This would mean that Beerus's travel speed is 35,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 35 quintillion miles per second, or 200,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light roughly rounded. Now, calculating Super Saiyan God Goku is easy. When he fought with Super Saiyan 3 Goku, I heard that Beerus used 1% of his strength, which isn't that unreasonable, thus we will scale this using percentages. Beerus, as a 10, ranks 100% on this scale. Goku was stated to be a 6, therefore, it is safe to say Super Saiyan God has a multiplier of x 60 from the Super Saiyan 3 transformation. To get the numbers we need, we will multiply .6 from Beerus's travel speed of 35,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second, which equals an overall speed of 21,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 21 quintillion miles per second for Super Saiyan God Goku's travel speed, roughly rounded to precisely 110,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light. Whew. Impressive, huh? :) At this point using the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan multiplier would be rather inaccurate, but for the sake of completeness, and because this is all speculation anyway, we will be scaling Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku's travel speed. Simply put, I don't think it would be so farfetched to say the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form is naturally a x 50 multiplier from the new base state of Saiyan Beyond God, which could be compared to Super Saiyan God. One might wonder, then, why this means that Beerus would ultimately be weaker than the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form if we used this multiplier, and as anyone who has seen Revival of F can testify to, Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku was not up to Beerus's level, and it was said that on par with Beerus, he and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Vegeta perhaps could stand a chance if they tag-teamed him, but remember — Beerus's powers are stored in another dimension. Everything he's accomplished so far? That's not even his full power. So this can easily apply here. If we multiply Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan from Goku's travel speed in the Super Saiyan God form of 21,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second, or 110,000,000,000,000 faster than the speed of light, we see that his maximum speed as a Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan would be 1,050,000,000,000,000,000,000 or 1.05 sextillion miles per second or 5,500,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light. And this is merely lowballing it for the sake of the downplayers! Just imagine if during Battle of Gods Beerus and Whis HAD traveled the full 45,500,000,000 light-years or 91,000,000,000 light-years! So... let's take a look at those figures now, shall we? Once again, we turn to how many miles are in a light-year, which I rounded down to 5,000,000,000,000 miles. To be fair, we will round the distance down to 45,000,000,000 light-years. 5,000,000,000,000 miles then multiplied again by 45,000,000,000 equals out to an overall distance of 225,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles. And once again, Beerus and Whis crossed this in 26 minutes. We go back to the same calculations, that with 60 seconds in a minute, that would be 1,560 seconds in 26 minutes, but again, we will be rounding it up to 2,000 seconds for the sake of the downplayers, and this would mean that Whis could travel at a speed of 112,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or 600,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light, roughly rounded. Again, to calculate Beerus's speed from all this, we will divide by 3, then multiply x 2, which would mean Beerus can travel at a speed of 75,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second, or roughly rounded to 400,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light... now, for Super Saiyan God Goku and the Saiyan Beyond God Goku we shall be doing the same thing that we did before. Beerus's speed is 100%, thus we will again multiply his travel speed times .6 which equals out to an overall travel speed for 45,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or roughly rounded to 240,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light. Again, using this in conjunction with the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan multiplier, this would seem to suggest Goku's travel speed while in the Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan form would equal 2,250,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or roughly 12,000,000,000,000,000 times the speed of light. And again, that's only using HALF of the original figure! Imagine if Beerus's temple was located near the very BOTTOM of the universe! Thus, that is what we shall now do, calculate those travel speeds. And once again, with 5,000,000,000,000 miles in a light-year, and 91,000,000,000 light-years that make up the DBZ universe, we take a look at the distance and then we multiply it which would equal out to 455,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles, and remember that Whis traveled across that distance in 26 minutes, so once again we take a look at how many seconds are in 26 minutes which would be 1,560 seconds, but again, just to scale it upward, and say it took a little bit longer for the sake of the downplayers, we shall use 2,000 seconds as the figure for how long it took him to travel there, therefore Whis can travel at a speed of 227,500,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or 1,200,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light for Whis's travel speed. But we're still not done. Now we come to Beerus and once again, we divide by 3, then multiply x 2, which means that Beerus's travel speed equals to 150,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or roughly rounded down to 800,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light. To get Super Saiyan God and Saiyan Beyond God Goku's travel speed, we take Beerus's travel speed and multiply x .6 again which equals out to 90,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second or 480,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light, and Super Saiyan God Super Saiyan Goku, using these calculations, would have a travel speed of 4,500,000,000,000,000,000,000 miles per second, or 24,000,000,000,000,000 times faster than the speed of light. So, there you go. XD insane, huh? This is nuts. This kind of speed is Pre-Crisis Superman stuff right here. But to note, these aren't completely in sync with one another, they're simply roughly rounded. My apologies is the guy i got this from got something wrong. This was quite a long essay, as I now think of it, lol. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ykh9joYnKGg&list=PLu2J-Y3YoPpSJEayFs1X6s4cBzwq-teq-&index=26

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@master525: No one will read your hard work until you learn about paragraphs.

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Goku still stomps.

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@ghostvortex: I think he copyed and paste that off of deathbattle erred.

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goku clearly

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Goku wins just by powering up and standing near Luff with his burning aura

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#25  Edited By Jueix

Goku stomps

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Goku destroys him

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Can someone explain why though? isn't Luffy immune to all physical attacks? how would the Kamehameha fair against him? do energy attacks hurt him?. just an explanation that's all. I do agree that Goku would probably win but how?

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Lets see. Goku tanked a ki blast that encompassed an island without taking any damage, in fact. Luffy's best attack is city level. Tough one. :/

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Can someone explain why though? isn't Luffy immune to all physical attacks? how would the Kamehameha fair against him? do energy attacks hurt him?. just an explanation that's all. I do agree that Goku would probably win but how?

Since when is Luffy immune to all physical attacks?

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#30  Edited By NinjaWarrior268

Goku. ki > haki

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@thedarkpaladin: haha chill out I've read it on his profile, I know that you can hit him. I just don't know how much damage it causes. he's been venerable to knives and swords and what not?.

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Galick gun is in no way a planet buster. Vegeta charging his galick shook the planet worse than when goku turned ssj3 so what? Does that mean it's stronger than ssj3? No. Also, vegeta's sacrifice during the buu saga expended all of his ki to kill buu, and he didn't even accomplish that, let alone destroy the galaxy like so many fanboys claim he can do. I really hate the dbz wank on this website. It makes me want to quit all together.

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@thedarkpaladin: haha chill out I've read it on his profile, I know that you can hit him. I just don't know how much damage it causes. he's been venerable to knives and swords and what not?.

Chill out? I only asked you a simple question... lol

And Luffy is heavily resistant to physical attacks due to his rubber anatomy, but can and has been hurt by physical attacks before. His grandfather, Garp was able to cause him pain.

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@etoro1 said:

Galick gun is in no way a planet buster. Vegeta charging his galick shook the planet worse than when goku turned ssj3 so what? Does that mean it's stronger than ssj3? No. Also, vegeta's sacrifice during the buu saga expended all of his ki to kill buu, and he didn't even accomplish that, let alone destroy the galaxy like so many fanboys claim he can do. I really hate the dbz wank on this website. It makes me want to quit all together.

It's probably for the best...

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@thedarkpaladin: Lol I thought I was about to see you go super Saiyan god on my ass

oh all right I see, but did he end up winning those fights?. could you give me a simple explanation as to how Goku would beat luffy? (Its never been explained to me).

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@etoro1 said:

@thedarkpaladin: your tears are delicious

Eh, i'm not the one crying about DB fans, but whatever.

Did you recently get your butt handed to you in a DB thread?

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@thedarkpaladin: Lol I thought I was about to see you go super Saiyan god on my ass

oh all right I see, but did he end up winning those fights?. could you give me a simple explanation as to how Goku would beat luffy? (Its never been explained to me).

Lmao, nah. No reason to do that. :)

Well, I wouldn't really say Luffy was actually fighting Garp, but he was definitely feeling his blows. Kizaru also sent him flying with a kick at one point.

As for how Goku would beat Luffy, I think a Super Kamehameha would do the trick. Maybe even this:

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@thedarkpaladin: I don't argue with the criminally insane lol, so no. & nobody's crying, just amazed at the gross exaggeration & willful ignorance

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@etoro1 said:

@thedarkpaladin: I don't argue with the criminally insane lol, so no. & nobody's crying, just amazed at the gross exaggeration & willful ignorance

Well considering you came to this thread to talk about Galick Gun and SSJ3, for whatever reason, it would seem that you do. It's also worth noting that we were never shown evidence of Vegeta shaking the planet when he charged his Galick Gun.

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@thedarkpaladin: NAPPA shook the earth

Anyways, on topic, can luffy survive moon busting power? If no, then the answer is obvious.

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@thedarkpaladin: NAPPA shook the earth

Anyways, on topic, can luffy survive moon busting power? If no, then the answer is obvious.

I know. Even Vegeta did when he powered up, at least according to Goku. Still, he never did this while charging his Galick Gun. Not that shaking the earth by powering up has anything to do with destroying it with a ki blast anyway. Lol

And I'm pretty sure Luffy wouldn't be able to survive a country buster, unless I'm forgetting something.

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@etoro1 said:

Galick gun is in no way a planet buster. Vegeta charging his galick shook the planet worse than when goku turned ssj3 so what? Does that mean it's stronger than ssj3? No. Also, vegeta's sacrifice during the buu saga expended all of his ki to kill buu, and he didn't even accomplish that, let alone destroy the galaxy like so many fanboys claim he can do. I really hate the dbz wank on this website. It makes me want to quit all together.

Even though it really doesn't matter, the Galick gun and ss3 shook the earth about the same as did Nappa when he powered up. The main difference is that ss3's power could be felt by the kais in a far part of the universe.

Db is not even really wanked by the larger part comicvine btw.

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goku bfr

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Goku with absolute ease.

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Luffy is Moon levl and has Genjutsu... Also Luffy's Final Flash should Handle Goku. Hell even God Goku.

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@drew6670: Galick Gun didn't shake the earth. That was Vegeta powering up. Either way, shaking the earth by powering up has nothing at all to do with destroying it.

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Who bumped this abomination? Goku godstomps Luffy. And even if you refuse to believe Goku can pentrate Luffy's skin (even though he's so strong he can punch a hole in Luffy's chest), Goku can throw Luffy into space.

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@ninjawarrior268: it's not an abomination x'D or at least I didn't think it was when I made it given Luffys power. It'd be a good fight in think