Lucius Zogratis vs Madara, Momoshiki, Kazuya, Isshiki

@estrelladeleon: But I'm kind of curious how they will get around Timestop/Soul Manipulation combo tbh, they're statutes to him.

Buut Kaguya will likely become a paladin due to her horrendous skills/combat speed and as you said, Dumb.This will definetly become a 2v3 as well. Add the haxes of every Devil and His siblings and It becomes impossible for T2 to put down Lucius, and Ash bones aren't tagging him lol.

@estrelladeleon: Yea and Soul Magic touch dosen't need Time bubble to change one of them into a Paladin. Time stop isn't even needed for that to work.

@ninjarizer: I do somewhat disagree with that sentiment, since soul manipulation isnt a foreign concept in BC.

This is true, but there are certain types of soul manipulation in Bleach, not just interacting with the soul, which would be able to deal with a devil.

Sklaverei, Goryutenmetsu, Aura Michibane’s Fullbring, Azashiro and basically anything Yhwach does comes to mind.

@ninjarizer: So which forms of Ichigo would you consider as "Arcane" category??

@ninjarizer: and the sentiment that I'm disagreeing with is that any form of soul manipulation would be effective.👀

Simply interacting with the soul is a bit argumentive otherwise the likes of rades and or any forbidden magic ( or user) would be classified as holding the potential to defeat a devil.

All in all, We've seen various forms of soul manipulation, pre-Lucius, that wasn't even considered a remote strategy in combating any of the supreme devils.

What kind of cope is this? LOL ever since the Boros fight in the manga there wasn't a single point in history where's Naruto wasn't a fodder to Saitama, he blitz and oneshot anyone in Narutoverse since 2015, there's no table flip + Boros will be an upper God-Tier in Narutoverse and only Kaguya can beats him thanks to her hax and immortality

Bump

• Welp, Seems like ur Lord and Savior Lucius-Dono really Shall Rain Arm---- I mean his blessings and happiness Upon Konoha with every Otsutsuki on his side............

Bump for next chapter almost released.

Let us grace the world with happiness!!!

Lucius just gives them the Numbers and solo.

Except maybe kaguya, any otsutsuki solos

Lucious wins

Dosen't matter, They're literal statues & get outnumbered. His Clones solo the verse bar Shibai. Also again they become palladins before any of them attempt to do anything.

Statues can’t fight back

Lucius statues the statues

@mangacomics69: How fast do you think the guy is?

"His Clones solo the verse bar Shibai."

Pretty baseless claim. Get him past eida first.

"Also again they become palladins before any of them attempt to do anything."

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

@zaxy:

How fast do you think the guy is?

MFTL in speed that they won't perceive his movements and attacks.

Pretty baseless claim. Get him past eida first.

Time Stop makes this moot tbh, been debated to death tho, As her love hax has no feats of operating within stopped time.

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

Do tell, as he just Taps their heads and they are forced to serve him and they're paladins. It alters and messes up the Mind, transforms the Body & Soul, it cannot be resisted or overpowered, especially if done in Chronostasis. Also naruto Chars having soul manip resistances on Lucius lvl is funny..

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

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@zaxy:

By stacking?

Won't even make sense tbh, as BC has the superior speed scaling no matter what.

Was it stated it cannot be resisted? and time stop doesn't affect momoshiki, madara's limbo will be unaffected, isshiki too should have time stop resistance.

So far, it's only shown to be negated, and even if we go through this path, Isshiki & Momoshiki aren't immortal in a sense that they can live eternally, Lucius still Can age them instead or stuffs, also time stop resistances won't save them from being aged or subordinated into palladins tho.

He will become a simp before doing anything. None in the verse can resist it. On top of it, her passive reality warping if she desires anything.

Fair Point, but his palladin'd Otsutsukis beat her up instead, since they won't have the soul resistance anyway, Though, I concede on Lucius beating Eida himself I suppose.....

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

Funny but not as funny as aizen having resistance against time manipulation by destroying cleaner.

@zaxy said:

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

Funny but not as funny as aizen having resistance against time manipulation.

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@zaxy:

Everytime an anime verse gets ahead hst, Naruto, bleach and one piece also gets a power up out of nowhere (at least inside the heads of the fanboys) lol

Nah bruh, and you have zero examples of these ’power ups’

We simply being scans that existed 10 years ago, just cause you didn’t know about it doesn’t mean it’s out of nowhere

Also this guy Zaxy just said Narutoverse has soul manipulation resistance so they can resist Julius, isn’t he guilty of this aswell?

Is he a fanboy?

I am not targeting specifically you. Same for the other guy. I am using an example.You both are the reasons why the hst community is hated.

@zaxy said:

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

Funny but not as funny as aizen having resistance against time manipulation by destroying cleaner.

Aizen having resistance to time manip is more credible than saying Naruto characters have resistance to soul manip.

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

@kingogkings777 said:

@zaxy said:

Naruto characters have soul manipulation resistance.

Funny but not as funny as aizen having resistance against time manipulation by destroying cleaner.

Aizen having resistance to time manip is more credible than saying Naruto characters have resistance to soul manip.

It's the same thing. Orochimaru resisted reaper death seal, madara resisted sealing.. same logic can be applied.

I am not saying they make a difference against Lucius. Lucius solos Naruto, bleach and one piece with zero difficulty except arguably SK yhwach.but the same reasoning can be applied for soul resistance in Naruto.

Not my fault people are ignorant.

Even now majority of people don't know genjutsu can affect even souls

He ain’t beating them all lol

@zaxy:

I agree on that but not on MFTL scaling

They are MFTL, considering that Yuno in PTS, Danced around several light speed attacks from Elf Patry, who's already In the FTL Ranges, then both him and asta were competeing with Dark Elf Patry, who's FTL+ as the torment he got from Zagred boosted his attacks by a lot.

Lucious magic can be resisted after all.

How?? As it changes physiology, applies Palladin Power to his targets, & is forcing them to be loyal to him, which isn't gonna make sense. Also Nullification =/= Resistance...

You know Momoshiki, kaguya, isshiki both are thousands of years old?

But Momoshiki & Isshiki aren't true immortals bruh....

Even now majority of people don't know genjutsu can affect even souls

But it can't Transform people's entire physiology tho.

@kingogkings777: @ninjarizer: Just answer my question

If you destroy a taser gun with a hammer does that mean you're immune to tasers now?

Yes he is, And I love how you guys are questioning soul resistance feats from Bleach then bought them up for Naruto characters and blab them up on how superior they are just for them to win, Lel. Show me those resistances via scans, Ninja & King already did, which shows they're credible sources. Also The Otsutsukis are statues, Exept maybe Shibai as he's Higher-D.

Also, Lucius outnumbers them...

No you aren’t immune.

Aizen was affected:

It had zero temporal effect.

Aizen and Gin resisted it because of the power of the Hogyoku.

In fact the databook states Aizen exerted his power and showed sovereignty, and superiority over the one who governs space and time (the Kokotsu) he’s above the Kokotsu’s effect

This isn’t new stuff, this is literally ten years ago we knew this

@ningenoid: No one hates me my guy🤣

They might find me annoying but why hate me over manga? If anything they should love me, I teach them about Bleach every time they say something stupid

They should be grateful and prostrate when I respond

thisisajoke

@mangacomics69: Lucius schools them on how to use Shadow clone jutsu.

Madara.

Team pimpsmacks

@zaxy:

How did you get FTL+ tho?

FTL+ is where the Dark Triad Scale at, and thats above the baseline of Dark Elf Patri, Asta scales to this for Defeating Dante.

He just transforms soul and the physiology change(if it's true) and targets being loyal happens as a result of that.

And yes nullification and resistance is not same.

Fair enough i guess.

Both are thousands of years old and chakra fruit grants immortality and iirc momoshiki also claims he is immortal.

Exept isshiki, as he'd be dying anyway due to his life span, im assuming that this is the version who fought Naruto & Sasuke here....

Now the question is, can lucious with his time manipulation accelerate thousands of years?

Hmm, He can always use this attack to erase his opponent like here, (from the perspective of MFTL fighters ofc) :

He just annihalates their time instead.

Never said it can.

The team becomes Lucius' Paladins then..

@supreme101: @maulsmacker: Soul Manipulation resistance feats on Lucius' level would be nice..