Lucifer Morningstar/Michael Demiurgos/Gabriel Hornblower Vs Beyonder/Molecule Man/The Living Tribunal

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Poll Lucifer Morningstar/Michael Demiurgos/Gabriel Hornblower Vs Beyonder/Molecule Man/The Living Tribunal (130 votes)

Lucifer, Michael, and Gabriel 75%
Beyonder/Molecule Man/The Living Tribunal 25%

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Lucifer solos.

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Lucifer solos

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Gross someone mentioned Gabriel why I dislike him

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#8  Edited By Y3kthunder

@damnineedabreak: cause he became constantines slave once he lost his power an he seems really depressed an honestly when they inputted him into the lucifer series his role in everything was lame like super lame is something lucifer coulda easily done like he wasnt needed at all. I mean honestly he doesnt impress me in the slightest. I mean what has he even done to remotely put him near his brothers originally it was just Lucy an Mikey creating everything then they added this smuck an what did he do imprinted planets thats it. It's like why you even add him at all then? He really didn't do nothing know what I'm saiyan?

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@y3kthunder: yeah but those 3 were the 3 archangel god created in Mike Creates Luci Shapes Gabriel puts them in the pattern

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@damnineedabreak: no I understand that but what I don't understand is why was that Gabriels only role like both Lucy and Mikey can do that literally both have er elaine did with her dad's power so id assume he could do to. An other than that Gabriel hasn't done much to my knowledge he lost a bet er something to Constantine an basically did whatever constantine tells him then he appeared in the 2016 lucifer series which I wasn't a fan of an honestly he didnt do much there either just seemed moody an outta place heck even lucifer sent him off on a wild goose chase just to be rid of him

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@y3kthunder: ur right both lucifer and michael can do both task of creating and maniuplation expect for plot convinence then Gabriel lost his heart to constatine which weakned plus lost his wings so yeah he didn't appear much as this really puts him at a plot hole that DC is trying to cover up

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@damnineedabreak: yea thats what I was getting at maybe they will do something with him eventually but as of right now he isn't my fav

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TBH in order to defeat the Archangels You gotta be Omnipotent like that

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Michael or Lucifer solos

Gabriel solos too if he has the sword

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Lmao Lucifer solos , Michael solos , mismatch.

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either team dc solos

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Lucifer and Michael stomp. Don't know about Gabriel.

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@happylife1996: eh gabriel is the youngest of the 3 although inferior to them can still compare to em.

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Team 2

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@damnineedabreak: His greatest feat was stabbing Lucifer and he did it with divine weapons made by The Presence. Even Sandalphon managed to defeat Michael and capture him with these weapons.

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Beyonder & Molecule man are the best team.

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This has been done many times before. The Archangels wins this decisively.

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Beyonder solos.

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#28  Edited By Redshift_Bacon

Beyonder is the only one even in the archangels league here and he cant hope to win a 3v1, hed be lucky to survive a 1-on-1 encounter with any one of his opponents. People like to say that MM is = Beyonder, but he admits inferiority to the Beyonder, so this assertion is dubious at best. LT is completely out of his range here. Being second to an Omnipotent character isnt good enough when it comes to the feats and scaling that DC+Vertigo offers Luci/Michael

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Pre retcon B wins Solo. Omniverse in a box MM solos effortlessly if you believe that feat. Adam Warlock Tribunal is superior to any one of the opposing team

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Marvel’s Basic Multiverse Has Archetypes, There’s about an Infinite Pantheon Of Realms and Realities above each bigger than the next, Archetypes Are Beyond Every Category Of Numbers, Space and Time Yet Are Also Eternal, Infinite and Everlasting, With The Collective Unconscious (In marvel) which goes beyond and contains an infinite amount of Archetypes so it retains a huge amount of Transcendences so Ridiculously High it’s nigh-fathomable. Lets just put in the Fact that this is merely within a Universal Stationed Eternity. Beyonder was > all of that.

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either team 1 solos

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Marvel’s Basic Multiverse Has Archetypes, There’s about an Infinite Pantheon Of Realms and Realities above each bigger than the next, Archetypes Are Beyond Every Category Of Numbers, Space and Time Yet Are Also Eternal, Infinite and Everlasting, With The Collective Unconscious (In marvel) which goes beyond and contains an infinite amount of Archetypes so it retains a huge amount of Transcendences so Ridiculously High it’s nigh-fathomable. Lets just put in the Fact that this is merely within a Universal Stationed Eternity. Beyonder was > all of that.

Well no lol. Marvel doesnt even have limbo, hypertime, or even the bleedspace. Beyonder is not as powerful as lucifer or the others.

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Any DC solos.

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Anyone in Team 2 solos

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@damnineedabreak: it doesn’t need to have those realms as marvel already has similar versions. Under space

Beyond

Nexus of realities

Crossroads

White Hot Room

Other World

Then oblivions void

Just to name a few

Also the gutter space.

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team 1 can stomp all fiction i think (omnipotents not included ofc)

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anyone from team 1 could solo team 2

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Team 2, obviously.

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@theanimal666: lemme give some info. On how ur opinion baffled me.

In the beginning, before humans, before the gods, before lofe, and even before the creation of this Multiverse. Yahweh, who is God of DC, create Demurgic beings infused with his unlimited might. The Archangels, the oldest of them all are the twins Michael and Samael, they're created an infinite Multiverse under Gods instruction. Michael can create an destory on and infinite scale because he is Gods Unlimited Power, he however cannot manipulate his creation. Lucifer cannot create something from nothing, but he can make something from anything, his will has no limits he could shape and will everyone and everything to his liking. Their both almost omnipotent(well more or less having both their weakness). Gabriel is also an demiurgic archangel, although inferior to his brothers still as powerful.

Beyonder is a entity of imessurable power, who origin dates to Beyond Realm. he is the beyond all and end all of all things. He was the TOAA at the time and was million of times more powerful than the main multiverse combined.

Molecule man is Owen Reece one day testing his machine was blasted with power from a source of power from the Beyond. which gave him the ability to manipulate matter and energy at a molecular scale. he at first was limited because of his lack of imganation and only imanged manipulating inorganic material, until doctor doom lifted his mental blockcade and now is literally able to manipulate everything.

The Living Tribunal is a golden humanoid whos sole purpose is to protect the worl without end. He judges mystical imbalance and safegurad the multiverse, having no free will, only to serve his master TOAA.

So reading that i have to say. Molecule man would get demiloshed. his a human with the power to do anything lucifer can will that logic to work aganist him. also remember his human u can literally take a gun and shot him down. Lucifer is so fast he can speed blitz molecule man beofre giving him self durability. TLT is out of the question the weakest one here, his function is to protect the multiverse. when all 5 are above the multiverse so he dies before he even tries anything. which leaves the Beyonder. despite what you think he is not omnipotent, he has gotten drunk, tricked, got his power stolen, has beeen hurt, and been defeated. His naive you can easily subdue him. he does not have infinite power like Michael. so by that logic he loses. Beyonder can die. The Puma and even the thing has defeated him. so the archangels stomp

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@damnineedabreak: Yet Lucifer, Michael & Co lose to stuff that will not phaze anyone in the second Team, also your whole "reasoning" is pure fancanon.

Thus Team 2 stomps and probably everyone of them can solo.

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@theanimal666: read the comics and u would easily see what i mean Lucifer and Michael would stomp.

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@theanimal666: read the comics and u would easily see what i mean Lucifer and Michael would stomp.

I have read them, that's why I don't create a one-page paragraph full of fancanon about the power origins, how their power works and how powerful they are (like you did).

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@theanimal666: in order to make a forum u must have knowldege, so you are right there tends to be bias, but overall, ingoring all the favortism and makin something appear more than it is. Most of what they says stems from the comics. Your example being what Michael and Lucifer did.

God created the aechangels to create a multiverse. In that first scan they are in the chaoplasm. Giving instruction on how to create.
In the second they power of the twins.
In the third. proof of Michaels Infinite Power.


















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#48  Edited By chasekilleen

@theanimal666: You never read the comics don't lie, you bs artist.

You never knew that Michael died because he protected his own daughter to try and wake Lucifer up when he was controlled and unconcious, and he didn't want to fight Lucifer in the first place because it'll threaten all of creation, but he had to wake him up and the second blast was the result of that.

His body was too damaged and his demurgic power was going to be released and destroy all creation, he could've reformed but he eventually gave his powers to his own daughter.

So no you're being bias and hypocritical with your own fan canon.

You're a liar and you don't know anything about Lucifer nor Michael.

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it's basically a 3v2 being the archangel trio vs the pre-retcon duo, the living tribunal is about as underwhelming as the number of times he'd won. The angels probably have the advantage here