Lucifer Morningstar vs Living Tribunal vs Man of Miracles

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#1  Edited By King_Saturn
Lucifer Morningstar
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Living Tribunal
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Man of Miracles
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                         Which of these Omnipotent Beings take the victory here ? Is there even a clear winner in this battle ? 

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#2  Edited By King_Saturn
Wow... No Takers huh ?
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#3  Edited By Hedatary

Still lucifer

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#4  Edited By King_Saturn
Hedatary said:
"Still lucifer
"
Lucifer greater than the Man Of Miracles ? If Lucifer could get him the first time what makes you think he could get him now ?

LOL  jk
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#5  Edited By One-Above-You

Man of Miracles wins this.

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#6  Edited By SeSAW

Living Tribunal is the most powerful being here

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#7  Edited By King_Saturn
SeSAW said:
"Living Tribunal is the most powerful being here"
I dont know about that
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#8  Edited By One-Above-You
SeSAW said:
"Living Tribunal is the most powerful being here"
The Man of Miracles is the most powerful. He is Image's version of Marvel's One-Above-All in my opinion.
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#9  Edited By King_Saturn
One-Above-You said:
"SeSAW said:
"Living Tribunal is the most powerful being here"
The Man of Miracles is the most powerful. He is Image's version of Marvel's One-Above-All in my opinion.
"
I think that is a correct statement. Man of Miracles was able to grant Spawn the Divine Power to become even more powerful that God and Satan via using the Fruit from The Tree of Life
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#10  Edited By Ball Buster

LT is the most powerful.He is the nexus of all realities and dimensions and can do anything in MU universe.

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#12  Edited By One-Above-You
Ball Buster said:
"LT is the most powerful.He is the nexus of all realities and dimensions and can do anything in MU universe."
But the One-Above-All and Thanos with the Heart of the Universe are more powerful than him, and the Man of Miracles is the One-Above-All of the Image Universe, and I think Spawn with Divine Powers is like Thanos with the HOTU.
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#13  Edited By SeSAW

So in image there is no one more powerful than M of M ?

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#14  Edited By Tevnoba
SeSAW said:
"So in image there is no one more powerful than M of M ?"
That has been written of yet!

The problem with this comparison is scale.  Because the DC actuality has The Presence (which is GOD) and you have GOD of the image Actuality it is often assumed they are the same so those under them must be proportionatly equivalent.

Just because MoM is the most powerful being so far in the Image Universe does not make him = TOAA and the Presence.  Just that we have not seen evidence of the actual top of the Image food chain (if the Image Actuality has one).  Until we know for sure LT>Lucifer and MoM is a wild card.
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#15  Edited By Ball Buster

The Tri Judge is below OAA but I would not rank him lower than MOM or LM. Just because MOM is the most powerful in his universe does not  mean he is as powerful as LT.

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#16  Edited By The_Absolute

Well LT isn't the most powerful in the MU and neither is Lucie in the DCU. MoM on the other hand is the man of mans in Image. So the question is: Is Marvel's and DC's #2's stronger than Image's #1? I'd say with all things being equal MoM's got it.

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#17  Edited By Bart Simpson

The Man of Miracles should win this. Then Lucifer, then LT. I think LT is being overrated here. I'm not sure how someone who's essential a supreme being's butler is suppose to beat in one corner another supreme being and in the other corner the son of another supreme being. And the only reason Living Tribunal is #2 in Marvel is because it's a technicality due to the fact TOAA doesn't have any relatives or offsprings. If it did I'm certain they'll make mince meat of the butler. To further prove my point look at the LT's showings against beings who are multiversal and can said to be close to the supreme being. First example would be the being from outside Marvel Donny Osmond. Not quite TOAA but very powerful. LT had the opportunity to show how awesome he was, but instead he chickened out. Then he was among the entities that wanted Donny's protege Owen Reese to face Donny since they couldn't do it themselves. Then next example was battling Thanos with the Heart of the Universe. With alleged complete control over Marvel you think it would had been a cake walk? But what happened instead? He got his butt kicked hard.

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#18  Edited By urizen

um sry for the offtopic but you guys sure the Presence is DC's God ? PResence himself said he was created by someone else, so he can't be the "end all be all" of DC

Man Of Miracles on teh toher hand IS the god of Image so he's more like MU's One Above All  than DC's Presence


Living Tribunal is ubrer uber powerful but he's not MU's god, he serves someone greater than him (TOAA)
Lucifer is also uber uber pwerful but was created by the Presence (who hmself ain't even DC's dod)



basically :
Lucifer & LT : RELATIVE omnipotence
MoM : ABSOLUTE omnipotence. he's like TOAA. so he wins this one

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#19  Edited By King_Saturn
Man... I forgot I made this thread
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#20  Edited By Midnightist

MOM

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#21  Edited By lordraiden
Hedatary said:
"Still lucifer
"

Yes, next to the Presence, is directly Lucifer & Michael, and both these two would trump the other two! Lucifer bareley gave Spectre another thought and Michael decided not to destroy the Spectre after he defeated him cause he deamed him too important in the larger scheme of things!




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#22  Edited By iSHADOW

its between lucifer and tribunal... i cant reason why one would win over the other. i dont know much about man of miracles though but who reads image?

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#23  Edited By lordraiden
iSHADOW said:
"its between lucifer and tribunal... i cant reason why one would win over the other. i dont know much about man of miracles though but who reads image?"

I don't believe LT can do anything to Lucifer! It's a matter of what Lucifer can do to LT?
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#24  Edited By King_Saturn
lordraiden said:
"iSHADOW said:
"its between lucifer and tribunal... i cant reason why one would win over the other. i dont know much about man of miracles though but who reads image?"

I don't believe LT can do anything to Lucifer! It's a matter of what Lucifer can do to LT?"
I think you maybe right... but its also possible that MoM is a reflection of The Presence in the DCU or at least could be... though the Image Universe lacks what the Marvel and DC Universe has... Actual Feats of Great Power...

lol
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#25  Edited By HalJordan1986x

MOM wins
Then LM
LT = biggest loser

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#26  Edited By SeSAW

Lucfier and Micheal are both equal to LT. Just as LT is right below TOAA. L and M are right below the pressence.

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#27  Edited By lordraiden
HalJordan1986x said:
"MOM wins
Then LM
LT = biggest loser"

Hmmm, must be a spawn/image fan :-)
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#28  Edited By lordraiden
SeSAW said:
"Lucfier and Micheal are both equal to LT. Just as LT is right below TOAA. L and M are right below the pressence."

How do you know? Where is it referenced that Lucifer and Michael are both equal to LT? Alot compare Spectre in DC to LT in Marvel, but even that's debatable, and Spectre didn't really stand a chance against Michael, so how do you get that Lucifer and Michael are both equal to LT?
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1.mom 
2lt 
3.lucifer

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#30  Edited By gobstakid777
@war of light_2814 said:
" 1.mom  2lt  3.lucifer "
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#31  Edited By why so serious
@Ball Buster said:
" LT is the most powerful.He is the nexus of all realities and dimensions and can do anything in MU universe. "
Ok do you even know anything about Lucifer?  Lucifer is THE second most powerful being in the DC Universe, right after God.   In terms of raw power Lucifer has openly stood up against the Presence himself, so Lucifer isn't behind LT at all in terms of power.
Lucifer's willpower and knowledge are both infinite.  Lucifer's will is God's will.  
Lucifer laughs at realities and dimensions. ( lucifer and michael created all the realities anyways ).
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#32  Edited By reactor

Logically speaking, Man of Miracles should majorly curbstomp here. His powers are beyond even Gods. However, the dispute comes from the opinion that DC's and Marvel's God is better than Image's God. Personal fan-bias aside, it makes sense that Man of Miracles should win here without trouble.

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#33  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Reactor: But God in Image is not the same as in DC or Marvel. 
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#34  Edited By reactor
@CosmicSpiral said:
" @Reactor: But God in Image is not the same as in DC or Marvel.  "
People don't seem to consider Image comics in the same league with Marvel and DC, which is where the dispute comes in. They don't consider God in Image (let alone M.o.M.) to be equal to the One-Above-All and the Presence.
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#35  Edited By CosmicSpiral
@Reactor: Probably because he isn't singular in nature and he was created. 
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#36  Edited By Son_of_Magnus

Lucifer due to the fact he can fight

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#37  Edited By Knightly1

Dont know much of MoM but between Lucifer and LT im stuck on saying Lucifer wins
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#38  Edited By Red_Blade

MOM win

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#39  Edited By why so serious
@Red_Blade said:
"MOM win "

Lucifer could outsmart him if all else fails.
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#40  Edited By geraldthesloth
@why so serious said:
" @Red_Blade said:
"MOM win "

Lucifer could outsmart him if all else fails. "
Cool Story,Bro
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#41  Edited By eliasw123

the living tribunal inst Omnipotent the one above all is it

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#42  Edited By shrirammukundan

MOM Is a true Omnipotent.

Lucifer Morningstar is Virtually omnipotent and it has been agreed on several threads that he would beat LT.

Living Tribunal is nigh-omnipotent.

He is like and inch below omnipotency.

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#43  Edited By SirMethos

MoM wins. Since he is the only one that is actually Omnipotent here.

The more interesting battle is between the Living Tribunal and Lucifer Morningstar.

With the Living Tribunal being 'nigh-omnipotent'. As shriammukundan said, "an inch below omnipotence".

While Lucifer is 'virtually omnipotent'. He has unlimited 'power'/energy, manipulation on a truly infinite scale. The only thing he can't do is create something out of nothing.

So unlimited manipulation, vs. nigh-unlimited manipulation+creation.

Personally I would give it to the Tribunal, since he, aside from nigh-omnipotence, also has the same degree of omniscience. Which kinda gives him an edge. But as said, that particular battle is debatable.

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#44  Edited By Strider1992

MoM is the only true omnipotent among them so he wins.

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#45  Edited By kingkronos

MoM>>>Living Tribuanl>Lucifer

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#46  Edited By TheMinister

1. Man of Miracles

2. Living Tribunal

3. Lucifer Morningstar

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#47  Edited By henryarguelles5

@Strider92 said:

MoM is the only true omnipotent among them so he wins.

Exactly.

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#48  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

Mother Of Creation  
 
Lucifer Morningstar 
 
Living Tri

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#49  Edited By catofellow

Has Lucifer ever been beaten? I don't know much about him. Though since Living Tribunal has been beaten by Thanos with HOTU, it is hard to save that he could be the most powerful of the 3.

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#50  Edited By SpideyPresence

MOM

Tribunal

Lucy