Who wins?
Lucifer Morningstar vs Anti-Monitor (COIE)
" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together." Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
" @OmegaDynasty: Eggface loses to the guy who death has no claim on , plus Lucy can walk back from inexistence [I saw that on a panel] "Didn't Fernis possess Lucifer? Even though Lucy killed Fernis. Lucifer= Gallagher Fernise's head= Melon Just saying he does have some low showings.
People at their levels shouldn't be screwing up so much. lol" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
So could Lucifer win even without his wings he got back from the Japanese gods?
" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power.
As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of
" @Nerx said:Yes, it would just be harder.People at their levels shouldn't be screwing up so much. lol So could Lucifer win even without his wings he got back from the Japanese gods? "" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "
" @Nerx said:It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
" @Neon_Nemesis said:Retconned= Spayed/neutered" @Nerx said:It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
" @Nerx said:XD" @Neon_Nemesis said:Retconned= Spayed/neutered "" @Nerx said:It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Nerx said:No, it doesn't. They can create more than just a simple multiverse. Lucifer, without many issues. "" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. "" Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening.
" @Assman said:That isn't the limit of his power though" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Nerx said:No, it doesn't. They can create more than just a simple multiverse. Lucifer, without many issues. "" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. "" Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
" @OmegaDynasty said:Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this?" @Assman said:That isn't the limit of his power though "" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Nerx said:No, it doesn't. They can create more than just a simple multiverse. Lucifer, without many issues. "" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. "" Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
In your scan it did say he didn't want to create another multiverse elsewhere, Lucifer and Michael are suppose to be 2 sides of The Presence, who should be able to create as many multiverses as he wants." @Neon_Nemesis said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this? "" @Assman said:That isn't the limit of his power though "" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Nerx said:No, it doesn't. They can create more than just a simple multiverse. Lucifer, without many issues. "" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. "" Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
" @OmegaDynasty said:No, he was stating that he didn't want to be a " King" of hell or any dimension. Why would he when he could be God. Thie multiverse they're both in at the moment was created when Lucifer took his brother out of the current one and used his Demiurgic powers and his own.In your scan it did say he didn't want to create another multiverse elsewhere, Lucifer and Michael are suppose to be 2 sides of The Presence, who should be able to create as many multiverses as he wants. "" @Neon_Nemesis said:
" @OmegaDynasty said:Well I know about his intellect, but how can he have more power outside of his own Multi-verse, when he needs help from his brother? The Presence made him as the Will and Michael as the Power, two sides of the same coin. Where is it shown that he has more power then this? "" @Assman said:That isn't the limit of his power though "" @OmegaDynasty said:" @Nerx said:No, it doesn't. They can create more than just a simple multiverse. Lucifer, without many issues. "" @CosmicSpiral said:Well it takes him and his brother to create a Multi-verse together. "" Lucifer. "Third in the order of God "
Lucifer telling Mazikeen that he didn't create a multi-verse with his brothers help to just become a king, but God himself. Of course I am talking about Lucifer prior to this happening. "
" @Nerx said:Somehow on that match he is not that big, only a half body above the water" @Neon_Nemesis said:Retconned= Spayed/neutered "" @Nerx said:It is sad though what they did to such a strong villain "" @OmegaDynasty: Everyone has low showings , like how AM -retcon- got penetrated by SBP and thrown out of orbit "I don't really think AM got retconned, he was destroyed and the version of him during the SCW wasn't at full power. As far as Prime throwing him across the universe, that was after taking the full brunt of a galaxy destroying attack, nothing to be ashamed of "
@capall said:
am would become lucy's maid here
That's a bit of an exaggeration, but Lucifer would win.
Am I always alone in this belief? Why can't AM at least give him a good fight?
Anti-Monitor survived both the destruction & recreation of the multiverse almost at the exact same time. He himself can destroy a multiverse.
Unless any of you can show me anything Lucifer has done that's above that, then you can't say that he would win easily.
@logy5000 said:
Am I always alone in this belief? Why can't AM at least give him a good fight?
Anti-Monitor survived both the destruction & recreation of the multiverse almost at the exact same time. He himself can destroy a multiverse.
Unless any of you can show me anything Lucifer has done that's above that, then you can't say that he would win easily.
lucifer did the same
@baron2011: Well then that means their durability is about the same.
It irritates me how people continue to just say: "LM, Lucifer, or Lucifer easily." And completely ignore the fact that he doesn't have the feats to put him above AM.
Sure, he SHOULD win, but there's no evidence that he could.
Most high-end cosmic level characters have relatively few or low-ended showings because they are chiefly used as plot devices, and thus are not exposed or developed to the extent as most characters. For example, TOAA and the Presence have the three Os (omnipotent, omniscient, onmipresent), but very few showings to prove it.
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