Lucifer Morningstar and Michael VS Living Tribunal

This is original Lucifer, Michael.

Not sure. It'd be a tough fight. I'll go with LT unless someone shows me how the team can win.

Stalemate.

already been done and it was a stalemate

LT easily. He is omniversal judge.

Only Thanos with HOTU can beat him.

Stalemate or LT

@andreysemyonov1337:

And TOAA and PR Beyonder and PR MM and Scathan and Protege.

I'd say this is a stalemate, LT would beat either on there own though.

Pfft the Living Tribunal is currently dead

I'm biased, I like LT more.

I say LT wins.

@jonny_anonymous Marvel seems to have forgotten that he's dead.

@dondave: Yeah, I was going to make a thread about that. There is the whole hubbub with the Watcher yet not a peep about the LT.

Living Tribunal is ok. He is not dead.

Going with the brothers as Lucifer was created as the greatest of all angels, second in power only to his creator. Michael was elevated to Lucifer's level in order to quell the rebellion. So am going with the notion that all of this comes down to a 2vs1 fight.

No. Orkhan Makiavelli (Russian Comics Smoker) said that Post Retcon LT is above PRB, PRMM, Scathan, Protege.

TOAA > Post Retcon LT > PRB = PRMM > Pre retcon LT > Protege > Scathan

@andreysemyonov1337: He's dead

@andreysemyonov1337: Scathan is above Protege and he should be bigger than LT...at least he is in my eyes but he doesn't have so many feats.

@andreysemyonov1337:

Living Tribunal is second in command to TOAA, also he has never been retconned, and all the characters I listed are more powerful than him.

TOAA >= PR Beyonder >= Thanos HOTU > PRMM > Scathan > Protege > LT

@jonny_anonymous said:

@andreysemyonov1337: He's dead

After this we can see that LT lives.

@andreysemyonov1337: When?

Scathan is not bigger than LT.

LT beats Protege. LT solos.

@eternityx: Thanos with HOTU is above the beyonder.

and this fight is as ridiculous as it is laughable. lucifer alone can stalemate LT, add his brother who can turn lucifer inside out without breaking a sweat and you have a stomp on your hands.

Old LT = Spectre.

New LT is above PRB, PRMM, Protege, Scathan

Lucifer = Multiverse+ lvl

Michael = Multiverse+ lvl

LT = Omniverse lvl (more powerful than Mad Jim Jaspers, who is omniversal)

LT beats Lucifer with ease.

@andreysemyonov1337: Scathan saved the day dude.

Thanos Annuals # 1

No. LT solos. LT > Protege.

@andreysemyonov1337: That isn't set in the current time line

Team.

@andreysemyonov1337: your ignorance is NOT amusing. the DC multiverse equals the marvel omniverse. if you want clarification, all you have to do is ask. though I would like you to take my word for it seeing as I have given the reason only so many times.

@van_cere: Nah Lucifer can beat LT by himself without much trouble :p

I'm going with Lucifer & Michael here.

Both by themselves should give LT a fight, but both together and they definitely can't lose.

@SithLantern93: I never said otherwise. oh wait, I did. my bad.

Lucifer is also omniversial. He rules over his own multivere and has power over the other DC multiverses.

Going with the brothers here.

@KingOfAsh: he is multiversal. because he is from DC, and DCs power levels names are different from marvels. to them, a bunch of multiverses combined is still going to be called a multiverse.

@van_cere: It's more than a multiverse, as shown several times. They just don't use the word omniverse, instead saying existance, everything or the like.

Lucifer & Michael win.
They have power superior/on par with LT but give Lucy 2 mins of talking too LT and... LT kills himself

@KingOfAsh: exactly what I meant. I mean, even the mansions of silence houses rejected creations, dimensions, and infinite universes. lucifer made a copy of his dad's multiverse (to the people who uses marvel words, omniverse) to a certain extant; he did not create an afterlife as the cherub gadium said 'who makes a creation without an afterlife?' and when Elaine was traveling through lucifers creation, she noticed that after a bunch of universes and dimensions, things start to get abstract, like the world of flesh and bone because lucifer did not care for the other universes, only the ones he needed as a stepping stone to cut off all bonds.

@darkseid1006: I do not think he can convince LT. I have thought about this before, and I think lucifers normal manipulations can not work on LT if he only uses his voice. LT has no will of his own, he does what TOAA tells him to do, therefore he is the equivalent of a robot (who has gained godlike power) and even lucifer the sunlighter, the dread lord, can not reason and manipulate robots.

the team wins

Either brother would be enough individually, together they eradicate LT.

Feats for Lucifer defeating someone of LT's caliber?

Scathan is kind of like LT's best buddy, the guy the other entities consider wise beyond words, even more so than his own boss One Above All ( Celestial ). He is The Approver, the guy who's opinion is valued above anything elses. Yes, he is very powerful but during these trials he is clearly gifted Security Bouncer status by Tribunal to dispose of Protege or do whatever needs to be done that LT asked of him. That is how I always viewed it. Scathan is certainly a top tier Celestial, probably someone that can wreck Galactus without thinking twice, but also nowhere near Tribunal or Beyonders level.

Beyonder was more powerful than Scathan and everyone else in that "room". I consider michael and lucifer the same as PR Beyonder. Omniversal level beings. I do not consider Living Tribunal an Omniversal level being, his domain is limited to all physical realities as we know it. He couldn't stop Beyonder, so why would be be able to stop Michael and Lucifer?

Team takes the win.

The brothers combined together are Omnipotent , LT lose this fight . Lucy Vs LT would be better (Lucy would pull out the win)

LT wins.

Either solo.

This site must have been cancer two years ago. Lol people saying lt can beat both brothers who each posesses half of omnipotent powers? Lmao

either lucifer or micheal alone would beat lt. Much less both 2gether.

Lt still remains the most overrated cosmic being ever on battle forums, at the end of the day, he's just as cosmic jobber

nobody can beat the combination of lucifer and micheal short of an omnipotent being.

@trickzzz: @doomsboy: Spite Thread , Lucifer created creation in Dc with Michael.

@jonny_anonymous: Not him, the just 00000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000.1% of him. It likes astral projection. but this is a stalemate plain and simple a draw.

Either brother could handle LT on their own. Spite