"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder...
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe...
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But Spawn was higher....well, no he wasn't. He was equal to GOD and Satan. Who is higher than them? the Creation/Destruction herself. So basically, Spawn is equal to that of MoM
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!"
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
Read below:
King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!"
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
Read below:
King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!"
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
Read below:
King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!"
The almighty in Preachers was a chair."
???? as in, have you read preacher???"
I know that God was no longer the almighty and that it was his freakin chair that was the all powerful in the universe. SoK ended up killing God by shooting him when he was away from that chair. Then at the end of the story SoK became God by sitting on that chair. So basically anyone who can get into heaven and sit on that chair can become God. Technically making the almighty entity in Preachers that chair. Making Preachers the franchise/universe to have the funniest God ever. Though that carpet that Molecule Man couldn't damage during Secret Wars 2 was pretty cool too.
"Spawn was basically GOD....well, he fought GOD and Saten."
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King Saturn said:
"The Living Tribunal loses badly... Thanos with IG and Spawn with Divine Powers could probably destroy him themselves "
Not quite! LT is above the IG, I believe he's got the power to shut it down, with a click of his fingers! so there goes Thanos (HOTU would have been a better artifact), and Emperor Joker, who I don't believe to be above the LT, gets taken out as well, unless you believe Mxy is above LT :-) which leaves Divine Spawn, who I believe is/would be Divine only in his own Universe, so that goes down against LT, is up in the air, but i'm gonna back LT cause I believe Marvel U TOAA is Supreme compared to Image divinity!"
But only the Man of Miracles was more powerful than Divine Powered Spawn... and MoM is basically Pre Retcon Beyonder..."
That's a pretty big call, placing him around Beyonder, but I know nothing about Man of Mirricles, so it's kinda hard for me to call!"
Well who else can he be compared to ? He is completely higher than every being within his universe..."
But how powerfull is his universe compared to Marvel? It's a bit like compareing the God from Preacher to the god of Marvel or DC! not quite the same, are they!"
The almighty in Preachers was a chair."
???? as in, have you read preacher???"
I know that God was no longer the almighty and that it was his freakin chair that was the all powerful in the universe. SoK ended up killing God by shooting him when he was away from that chair. Then at the end of the story SoK became God by sitting on that chair. So basically anyone who can get into heaven and sit on that chair can become God. Technically making the almighty entity in Preachers that chair. Making Preachers the franchise/universe to have the funniest God ever. Though that carpet that Molecule Man couldn't damage during Secret Wars 2 was pretty cool too."
.........i really wish someone killed such a stupid plot. This is like saying, the Chair was the almighty true GOD who existed before any universe. so shouldn't the Chair's be....i dunno, worshiped?
.........i really wish someone killed such a stupid plot. This is like saying, the Chair was the almighty true GOD who existed before any universe. so shouldn't the Chair's be....i dunno, worshiped?"
"Divine spawn surpassed odin level entities, so he dies quickly. Emperor joker is next, then Thanos. "
Spawn wont go down quickly and neither will Emperor Joker if he uses his head here..."
Joker is a madman in every sense of the world. As Hannible says....i can't remember what the quote says but this is what he basically meant. people are afraid of to go deeper into their imagination while sadists, killers, rapists and other maniacs uses there imagination to there fullest. Joker.....with the power of a 5th dimension imp....WITH spawn who held his own against GOD and Satan along with Thanos who brings more plans outta his ass then a clown with tricks....Living ain't gonna be living anymore.
"Divine spawn surpassed odin level entities, so he dies quickly. Emperor joker is next, then Thanos. "
Spawn wont go down quickly and neither will Emperor Joker if he uses his head here..."
Joker is a madman in every sense of the world. As Hannible says....i can't remember what the quote says but this is what he basically meant. people are afraid of to go deeper into their imagination while sadists, killers, rapists and other maniacs uses there imagination to there fullest. Joker.....with the power of a 5th dimension imp....WITH spawn who held his own against GOD and Satan along with Thanos who brings more plans outta his ass then a clown with tricks....Living ain't gonna be living anymore."
The Idea that an Odin level entity can even touch the Living Tribunal is outrageous and defies logic. Odin cannot defeat a Celestial, A Celestial Can not defeat Galactus and Galactus cannot beat Nemesis and Nemesis could not beat the Living Tribunal. And the Living Tribunal is a few steps higher up the list than odin, thus anyone with his power level cannot even possibly hope to take down the living Tribunal. Also, while Emperor Joker can Change how logic itself works, He has so far done things a Celestial or A Galacti level Entity could do and the Living tribunal has already been shown to be above said entities. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet had already lost to the Living Tribunal, He simply turned off the Gauntlet's power and was done with it. All in All this Rag tag team has very very little chance of victory.
"The Idea that an Odin level entity can even touch the Living Tribunal is outrageous and defies logic. Odin cannot defeat a Celestial, A Celestial Can not defeat Galactus and Galactus cannot beat Nemesis and Nemesis could not beat the Living Tribunal. And the Living Tribunal is a few steps higher up the list than odin, thus anyone with his power level cannot even possibly hope to take down the living Tribunal. Also, while Emperor Joker can Change how logic itself works, He has so far done things a Celestial or A Galacti level Entity could do and the Living tribunal has already been shown to be above said entities. Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet had already lost to the Living Tribunal, He simply turned off the Gauntlet's power and was done with it. All in All this Rag tag team has very very little chance of victory. "
Very True!
One good example of why Emperor Joker is a Joke in this is that his power was from a 5 dimensional imp, correct? Well LT is about a 1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 dimensional being in his little pinky. He is OMNIVERSAL, OMNITEMPORAL and OMNIDIMENSIONAL - he exists in every time, dimension, alternate reality and location in each at the same time - and Marvel has in it's design an infinite number of dimensions and alternate realities alone.
Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ?
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself.
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself. "
Yes and in other universes(Marvel & DC) Creation/Destruction would equate to The-One-Above-All and the Presence. Molecule Man was just bellow that as Classic Beyonder was equal to it.
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself. "
Yes and in other universes(Marvel & DC) Creation/Destruction would equate to The-One-Above-All and the Presence. Molecule Man was just bellow that as Classic Beyonder was equal to it."
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself. "
Yes and in other universes(Marvel & DC) Creation/Destruction would equate to The-One-Above-All and the Presence. Molecule Man was just bellow that as Classic Beyonder was equal to it."
Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?
"Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Suppose the Marvel Universe did away with all of the cosmic entities below the One Above All and above the Silver Surfer. Since Silver Surfer would now only be below the One Above All would that mean that he could defeat Divine Spawn or Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? You have to have evidence of their power instead of simply having a position in which they are placed. The position means next to nothing without knowing the power it affords.
"Isn't the Man of Miracles the highest being in the Image Universe?"
Thats what I thought... but it maybe possible that Creation/Destruction is higher than even him"
How so?"
Creation/Destruction is an entity that exists within all aspects of every universe... its embodied by the highest beings in every universe you can name... where as Man of Miracles power is Multiversal but that is within the Image Universe
"Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Suppose the Marvel Universe did away with all of the cosmic entities below the One Above All and above the Silver Surfer. Since Silver Surfer would now only be below the One Above All would that mean that he could defeat Divine Spawn or Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? You have to have evidence of their power instead of simply having a position in which they are placed. The position means next to nothing without knowing the power it affords."
But what will the evidence here afford ? Spawn with Divine Powers have shown feats that could be done by Living Tribunal, Classic Beyonder or a 5th Dimensional being... so what how can I prove anything here using feats since everyone seems to have done these insane Reality Warping feats ?
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself. "
Yes and in other universes(Marvel & DC) Creation/Destruction would equate to The-One-Above-All and the Presence. Molecule Man was just bellow that as Classic Beyonder was equal to it."
Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Forever answered your question perfectly:
Forever said:
"King Saturn said:
"Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Suppose the Marvel Universe did away with all of the cosmic entities below the One Above All and above the Silver Surfer. Since Silver Surfer would now only be below the One Above All would that mean that he could defeat Divine Spawn or Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? You have to have evidence of their power instead of simply having a position in which they are placed. The position means next to nothing without knowing the power it affords."
"Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Suppose the Marvel Universe did away with all of the cosmic entities below the One Above All and above the Silver Surfer. Since Silver Surfer would now only be below the One Above All would that mean that he could defeat Divine Spawn or Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? You have to have evidence of their power instead of simply having a position in which they are placed. The position means next to nothing without knowing the power it affords."
Thank you Forever."
What are you talking about? Spawn has proven feats and not just be at a position of power for nothing.
"Why do you people keep saying that Spawn with Divine Powers is an Odin Level Entity ? That BS... how can someone who is nearly on par with the Man of Miracles be just on par with Odin ? What exactly have you seen Spawn with Divine Powers lack in that would make you have such a claim ? "
What they say is nothing more then opinions and speculations. Spawn with devine powers should win here. The only thing higher then him is the Creation/Destruction itself. "
Yes and in other universes(Marvel & DC) Creation/Destruction would equate to The-One-Above-All and the Presence. Molecule Man was just bellow that as Classic Beyonder was equal to it."
Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Forever answered your question perfectly:
Forever said:
"King Saturn said:
"Dude... you just made my point. If Creation/Destruction in the Marvel and DC Universe equate to The One-Above-All and The Presence... and only Creation/Destruction is higher than Spawn with Divine Powers in the Image Universe... why cant Spawn with Divine Powers defeat Living Tribunal ?"
Suppose the Marvel Universe did away with all of the cosmic entities below the One Above All and above the Silver Surfer. Since Silver Surfer would now only be below the One Above All would that mean that he could defeat Divine Spawn or Thanos with the Infinity Gauntlet? You have to have evidence of their power instead of simply having a position in which they are placed. The position means next to nothing without knowing the power it affords."
Thank you Forever."
I cant believe this. What feat has the Living Tribunal done that makes him so much more powerful than Spawn with Divine Powers ? All these characters from the 5th Dimensional Imps to the Classic Beyonder to even Spawn with his Divine Powers have shown insane feats than make them Omnipotent beings... how is LT so much better than Spawn here ?
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