The wank for mcu is just too much. Oliver has been targeted by turrets with auto targeting while already locked in him , dodged and caught arrows with his back turned, performed kick flips while in a Fight and hitting a USB port with an arrow at the same time. Causually dances around people shooting with automatic weapons instead of taking cover and Melinda mays fight scenes are laughably stiff. She's a 4ft 5 Asian woman in her 50s. Stop acting like they even film scenes believable that makes you think she's more agile. You know not one person here has a agility feat for May on Oliver's lowest level.
@the_hajduk: I'm familiar with most of those, that bottom one I hadn't seen, that's kind of ridiculous so I'll rethink, not sure if it exactly equates to agility/acrobatics, but May has and can rather easily replicate a lot of those. I just struggle to picture Oliver doing two consecutive backflips down a corridor and blending it straight into a spin-kick
@the_hajduk: I'm familiar with most of those, that bottom one I hadn't seen, that's kind of ridiculous so I'll rethink, not sure if it exactly equates to agility/acrobatics, but May has and can rather easily replicate a lot of those. I just struggle to picture Oliver doing two consecutive backflips down a corridor and blending it straight into a spin-kick
Here's the distinction.
May can perform the techniques.
A somersault and corkscrew flip.
A wall run backflip.
The pounce move thing off the forklift in the warehouse.
But are her skills as an acrobat used so readily and so effectively in relevant combat situations? May performed flips down a hallway. This isn't a competition or tournament, it's about fighting. Oliver has adapted acrobatics into a style of combat.
He did the somersault and corkscrew flip to infiltrate a moving train.
He wall ran to dodge Captain Boomerang's eponymous projectile.
He pounced to dodge bullets.
It's debatable that May can't perform the techniques under these conditions like Oliver can. For one thing, there is no precedent, because she never has.
Most impressively is Oliver's use of a flip to carry Felicity in his arms safely into cover, as a reaction to Deathstroke shooting at them.
And that isn't the topic, at least, that's not how I'm understanding these threads, the topic is who is more agile and acrobatic period. Not who has more agility in a fight, that would involve things other than agility like bravery/skill, and that's not the question in the OP.
@rogueshadow: Hmm I think Oliver has a very small edge now, due to abundance of feats and also his astonishing high end feat. But May has proven she has the potential to replicate his average.
Being agile means that one could change positions quickly or move his/her body quickly and easily. This doesn't have to include acrobatics, as someone like Ras didn't use acrobatics often, if he even did at all but is still agile by the definition since he could move his body quickly.
Acrobatics incorporates agility since it's needed to perform flips, spins etc. but it isn't one and the same. A person could be agile without being acrobatic.
Being agile means that one could change positions quickly or move his/her body quickly and easily. This doesn't have to include acrobatics, as someone like Ras didn't use acrobatics often, if he even did at all but is still agile by the definition since he could move his body quickly.
Acrobatics incorporates agility since it's needed to perform flips, spins etc. but it isn't one and the same. A person could be agile without being acrobatic.
A good real life example is an athlete like a basketball or soccer player. Not a lot of them are great acrobats, but most of them are extremely agile and have good footwork.
@dstreet45: @the_magister: Honestly, in that case, I'd say Oliver is more acrobatic. He probably can't do the continuous flips like May does, but May can't replicate half his agility feats either.
I feel like Oliver probably has some dumb high end feats due to the general inconsistency of the CWverse, but on average it's definitely May.
There is no inconsistencies. That like many things else is something you people made up on the forum. Barry someone whos ftl loses to quicksilver a bullet timer.. cus hes "inconsistent. Kara loses cus barrys inconsistent. Meanwhile you shield fans try and claim kree are both as strong as asgardians but weak enough to be kod by humans. It's kind of laughable
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