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Posted by The_Magister (13929 posts) 2 months, 11 days ago

Poll: Live-action: MCU Black Widow vs CW Green Arrow - Who is more agile and acrobatic? (47 votes)

Black Widow 38%
Green Arrow 60%
Results 2%
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#1 Posted by deactivated-5c830d4e319e6 (4952 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha.

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#2 Posted by ANTHP2000 (26930 posts) - - Show Bio

Obviously Widow. Inb4 "she's a woman and she looks better doing it, that's only why ppl are saying her".

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#3 Posted by webinyoureye11 (5703 posts) - - Show Bio
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#4 Posted by RBT (27800 posts) - - Show Bio

Don't sell Oliver short. He can do useless acrobatics as well.

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#5 Posted by bdelloidgrain2 (1964 posts) - - Show Bio

Maybe Natasha. Slightly.

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#6 Posted by TheSuperor (6684 posts) - - Show Bio

I'm sorry, but Green Arrow and not even close. I'd happily provide feats if needed.

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#8 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5427 posts) - - Show Bio

I think people sell Oliver short because he's bulky but in reality he's pretty agile/acrobatic. Some examples of this:

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#9 Edited by TheOneWhoPullsTheStrings (2746 posts) - - Show Bio

@danieldaripper:

And I would take her boat scene and action scenes where she relies on agility so much as she does - over everything in either of those videos. Here's much of her scenes - It is nothing special to Natasha, and she tends to use it as a weapon faaaar more often and seamlessly, whether it is weaving in and under peoples legs, before jumping right up around their neck, mixed in with maybe some parkouring.

What you have is basically oliver doing a trick shot and a less than Natasha-like evade. A bunch of times where he fights, and then sometimes does the specific semi-flexible thing he needs to (not like Natasha, who has a style built around that agility strength itself) - and a bunch of Oliver parkouring. I don't think that makes it comparable at all.

Natasha >> Green Arrow currently in the agility department.

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#10 Posted by Slade-Prime (1403 posts) - - Show Bio

Oliver.

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#11 Posted by Saxz (163 posts) - - Show Bio

Natasha By a mile

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#12 Posted by Subline (7826 posts) - - Show Bio

Green Arrow, Black Widow's only feat that is actually good is in a tie in comic, and Oliver has better feats still. See the feats above and also this feat:

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#13 Posted by DanielDaRipper (5427 posts) - - Show Bio

@danieldaripper:

And I would take her boat scene and action scenes where she relies on agility so much as she does - over everything in either of those videos. Here's much of her scenes - It is nothing special to Natasha, and she tends to use it as a weapon faaaar more often and seamlessly, whether it is weaving in and under peoples legs, before jumping right up around their neck, mixed in with maybe some parkouring.

What you have is basically oliver doing a trick shot and a less than Natasha-like evade. A bunch of times where he fights, and then sometimes does the specific semi-flexible thing he needs to (not like Natasha, who has a style built around that agility strength itself) - and a bunch of Oliver parkouring. I don't think that makes it comparable at all.

Natasha >> Green Arrow currently in the agility department.

Tbh I don't really see anything Oliver hasn't already replicated, surpassed, or couldn't do. Here are some similar moves he performed over his past appearances.

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While yes Oliver doesn't perform acrobatics/agility in his combat as much as Nat does that doesn't take away from his accomplishments in the past.

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#14 Posted by TheSuperor (6684 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like for someone to post some actual feats for Widow.

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#15 Posted by deactivated-5c917f846ef0b (1264 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow, Natasha's agility is just more flashy to look at because she's a woman

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#16 Posted by mrmonster (15154 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow

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#17 Posted by macleen (3444 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow, Natasha's agility is just more flashy to look at because she's a woman

nailed it

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#18 Posted by RBT (27800 posts) - - Show Bio

I'd like for someone to post some actual feats for Widow.

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#19 Edited by blackspidey2099 (6611 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:
@thesuperor said:

I'd like for someone to post some actual feats for Widow.

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> Black Widow

> AOS

wanna sauce me some of that good shit you clearly must be smoking?

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#20 Posted by RBT (27800 posts) - - Show Bio

@blackspidey2099: Eh, the fanbase is more or less the same on battle forum. Wasn't worth the time it'd take to make a new meme instead of posting an old one.

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#21 Posted by TheSuperor (6684 posts) - - Show Bio

@rbt said:
@thesuperor said:

I'd like for someone to post some actual feats for Widow.

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LMAO. It's actually true though, with a few exceptions.

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#22 Posted by deactivated-5c6c427da31ab (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Black Widow

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#23 Edited by The_Magister (13929 posts) - - Show Bio

Let's get some analysis going please

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#24 Posted by deactivated-5cae4704c27f5 (1660 posts) - - Show Bio

Voted for Widow but I'm now convinced Oliver takes it.

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#25 Posted by InvadedTBD (1548 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow, I'm pretty sure.

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#26 Edited by foxerdes (10154 posts) - - Show Bio

Oliver has comparable feats but Widow relies on it far more. Even stunt actors can do so much before risking twisting their necks.

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#27 Posted by maestromage (1364 posts) - - Show Bio

Though he uses it less often, due to having way more feats overall I think Ollie has at least as many impressive feats as Natasha does, and I think I might actually give him the edge here. Also, I found (remembered) this feat which is pretty damn impressive:

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Ollie doing flips and avoiding gunfire with one arm in a cast lmao.

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#28 Posted by godzilla44 (7364 posts) - - Show Bio

Ollie

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#29 Posted by SexyBayonetta22 (1585 posts) - - Show Bio

I voted to Black Widow but i saw some posts so i change my mind to Arrow. Let wait for her solo movie and Endgame

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#30 Posted by deactivated-5c6c427da31ab (357 posts) - - Show Bio

Widow was able to outmaneuver Hulk and flip through gun fire like its nothing (So still leaning towards widow)

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#31 Edited by BreakOfDawn (2025 posts) - - Show Bio
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Oliver if in gazelle mode.

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#32 Posted by maestromage (1364 posts) - - Show Bio

@widowbite123: Ollie flipped through gunfire with his arm in a cast as I showed and when did Widow outmanoeuvre Hulk? And what speed feats does hulk have that make that impressive.

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#33 Posted by deactivated-5c6c427da31ab (357 posts) - - Show Bio

@maestromage: Link - Widow was able outmaneuver Hulk (Somebody who could catch Thor hammer) just after she tanked a explosion point blank ranged

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#34 Posted by ArkhamAsylum3 (3868 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow, Natasha's agility is just more flashy to look at because she's a woman

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#36 Edited by Alavanka (2587 posts) - - Show Bio

@foxerdes said:

Oliver has comparable feats but Widow relies on it far more. Even stunt actors can do so much before risking twisting their necks.

Funnily enough, Stephen Amell's parkour is actually pretty good. There are probably stunts that Amell can do unassisted that would take Scarlet Johanson's doubles wiring to safely pull off. Johanson herself is certainly nowhere near as good as Stephen is, which automatically makes me want to give Arrow the advantage here. Of course, once you account for wiring it becomes extremely hard to tell which fictional character is better. Some of the stuff they do are physically impossible irl, and even the non-physically impossible stuff (like flying armbars) Johanson still uses wiring for.

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#37 Posted by RBT (27800 posts) - - Show Bio

@alavanka: The guy completed an America Ninja Warrior course.

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#41 Posted by BreakOfDawn (2025 posts) - - Show Bio

Seriously though, Ollie is more agile. Dodgy jumps aside, I agree with everything else that's been said here as to why.

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#42 Posted by Super_ninja (3580 posts) - - Show Bio

Arrow

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#43 Posted by Ready_4_Madness (15883 posts) - - Show Bio

I came in this thread to say Natasha but ended up saying “Ollie takes this category”.

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