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Poll Limit-Breaker Naruto vs Goku and Vegeta (71 votes)

Naruto finally wrecks them hard 20%
Saiyan Duo still whoops him 20%
Either Saiyan still solos Nardo 46%
This shit won't end well 14%
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unlimited Baryon mode Naruto

Saiyan-Namek arcs Goku and Vegeta

Ki=Chakra

Naruto is bloodlusted

Team is in-character, they starts in base form

No prep with only basic knowledge

Starting distance: 100 meters

Any win conditions

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#1 ragegod  Online

Lol limit breaker. How about asspull?

OT: He loses to either Saiyan individually.

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@ragegod said:

Lol limit breaker. How about asspull?

OT: He loses to either Saiyan individually.

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@ragegod said:

Lol limit breaker. How about asspull?

OT: He loses to either Saiyan individually.

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#4 Kingxix  Online

Lol limit breaker naruto πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚πŸ˜‚

More like end of life naruto.

Anyways he gets low different by the duo

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Saiyan Saga?

Naruto blitzes and one taps them both

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@animefreak1: don't see naruto blitz at all they should be equal on speed and how does naruto one taps them both? even if ki=chakra they are still planet busters. naruto its a moon buster

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@animefreak1: don't see naruto blitz at all they should be equal on speed and how does naruto one taps them both? even if ki=chakra they are still planet busters. naruto its a moon buster

Equal in Speed?

Just how fast do you think Saiyan Saga Goku and Vegeta are?

Naruto is beyond Moon level πŸ—Ώ

Even if you wanna lowball he is at least Large Planet level

Seeing as Kaguya was going to destroy a Dimension that was at least Large Planet Sized as well the it having several Moons ( her dimensions showing to have numerous moons ) and the space around it

Goku and Vegeta at this point in time are like Planet level to Planetary+ at most

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Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

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@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

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@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

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when do Naruto fans understand that Naruto doesn't scale to Kaguya's ETSB?

She can't even accomplish such a feat without it

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@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

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@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

because She can't accomplish such a feat without it

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@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

1) He never did anything to face the ETSB directly or confront it.

2) We know from how it is made that Kaguya herself can't just use it like a right out of her own arsenal like Naruto uses a TBB, so scaling to Kaguya would also be indirect.

3) The TS Naruto kicked was a whole lot smaller so that can't be used as a comparison either.

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@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

1) He never did anything to face the ETSB directly or confront it.

2) We know from how it is made that Kaguya herself can't just use it like a right out of her own arsenal like Naruto uses a TBB, so scaling to Kaguya would also be indirect.

3) The TS Naruto kicked was a whole lot smaller so that can't be used as a comparison either.

1. And that somehow means he doesn't scale to it's AP? Bruh............

2. And just WHY can't she just use it hmm?

3. I never even mentioned Naruto kicking Madara's TSB, has nothing to do with my argument

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@bgninjaq said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

because She can't accomplish such a feat without it

And why not hmm? She still used her chakra to create it. So it scales to her AP

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limit breaker naruto is featless...

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Still in the stone age I see carry on πŸšΆβ€β™‚οΈ

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@rawsos said:

limit breaker naruto is featless...

In the raws

He actually stated to be stronger than Isshiki and nearly killed him

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#20  Edited By GangOrca

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1. And that somehow means he doesn't scale to it's AP? Bruh............

Yes. You have to prove he is in anyway comparable before you just say character scales to this or that.

2. And just WHY can't she just use it hmm?

Because it uses not just her chakra but everyone else in the world trapped in IT.

3. I never even mentioned Naruto kicking Madara's TSB, has nothing to do with my argument

Alright then.

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@bgninjaq said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

because She can't accomplish such a feat without it

And why not hmm? She still used her chakra to create it. So it scales to her AP

You tell me how she can replicate this feat without ETSB?

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@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:

1. And that somehow means he doesn't scale to it's AP? Bruh............

Yes. You have to prove he is in anyway comparable before you just say character scales to this or that.

2. And just WHY can't she just use it hmm?

Because it uses not just her chakra but everyone else in the world.

3. I never even mentioned Naruto kicking Madara's TSB, has nothing to do with my argument

Alright then.

1. No because you had yet to still prove how she don't scale

2. Imagine still using this argument in almost 2021 LMAO. The same Alliance that doesn't even scale to 1/3 of Bijuu Mode Naruto' chakra?! Unless you're going to tell me BM Naruto has more chakra than Kaguya now?

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@bgninjaq said:
@animefreak1 said:
@bgninjaq said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:
@animefreak1 said:
@gangorca said:

Nardo fans still using indirect scaling to Kaguya's ETSB to claim large planet level Nardo? Color me unsurprised.

And tell me how it's indirect scaling? πŸ—Ώ

Because Naruto does not directly scale to ETSB?

Prove it

because She can't accomplish such a feat without it

And why not hmm? She still used her chakra to create it. So it scales to her AP

You tell me how she can replicate this feat without ETSB?

Doesn't matter, it still scales to her AP cause she used her own energy to create it

Also by your logic, "Vegeta can't bust a Planet without Galic Gun so he doesn't scale to that"

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Mismatch. lock this.

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I liked it better in red/orange. 😒

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#27  Edited By Crimson_COMET

It is pretty obvious that Naruto's new Digivolution would allow him the capacity to dominate a few vegetable men.

Naruto's newest Dragon Force form doesn't have the feats to prove that he would lose against these body builders.

GT Goku would fold all three of them though. His SS4 is so gorgeous that their other forms won't be bothered with cause they would just look so bad by comparison. Power wise, their canon base powers stand no chance against the artillery power of GT Goku.

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#28  Edited By GangOrca

@animefreak1:

1. No because you had yet to still prove how she don't scale

2. Imagine still using this argument in almost 2021 LMAO. The same Alliance that doesn't even scale to 1/3 of Bijuu Mode Naruto' chakra?! Unless you're going to tell me BM Naruto has more chakra than Kaguya now?

Not just the alliance either but it was clearly neccessary since it was a whole lot of chakra, enough to stabilize Kaguya's form.

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@gangorca said:

Not just the alliance either but it was clearly neccessary since it was a whole lot of chakra, enough to stabilize Kaguya's form.

Its only the Shinobi in the divine tree

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

1. No because you had yet to still prove how she don't scale

2. Imagine still using this argument in almost 2021 LMAO. The same Alliance that doesn't even scale to 1/3 of Bijuu Mode Naruto' chakra?! Unless you're going to tell me BM Naruto has more chakra than Kaguya now?

Not just the alliance either but it was clearly neccessary since it was a whole lot of chakra, enough to stabilize Kaguya's form.

No it was JUST the Alliance

Black Zetsu even stated this

It was never necessary

Was never stated she NEEDED the chakra to make the ETSO

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@animefreak1:

No it was JUST the Alliance

Black Zetsu even stated this

I was sure shinobi not fighting were involved but oh well, looks like I am wrong about that.

It was never necessary

Was never stated she NEEDED the chakra to make the ETSO

Then it is rather convenient that she just happened to stabilize the Juubi once she gained that chakra.

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

No it was JUST the Alliance

Black Zetsu even stated this

I was sure shinobi not fighting were involved but oh well, looks like I am wrong about that.

It was never necessary

Was never stated she NEEDED the chakra to make the ETSO

Then it is rather convenient that she just happened to stabilize the Juubi once she gained that chakra.

Not Black Zetsu even states she absorbed Chakra from the Shinobi Alliance here

https://mangasee123.com/read-online/Naruto-chapter-689-page-5.html

Well it was never stated so........

Also, this isn't even my only argument

Base Naruto's normal Rasengan in the Last destroying something that Toneri stated would tank both Moon and Planet level destruction simultaneously with no damage

And even if you use the low balled calc of this feat

It still Small Planet level AP feat

And then he can power up to his base full power

Then he can amp himself with multiple transformations

So no matter what, he definitely surpassed Saiyan Versions of Goku and Vegeta

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@animefreak1: That's what the panel says, you guys do Whatever you want with that.

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#34  Edited By GangOrca

@animefreak1:

Base Naruto's normal Rasengan in the Last destroying something that Toneri stated would tank both Moon and Planet level destruction simultaneously with no damage

You mean the Tenseigan? The Tenseigan wouldn't be tanking both their destruction's because it is incased within the moon, not between their collision so it would probably be moon level at most. The Tenseigan itself also shouldn't be as hard to destroy as the shield it produced around Toneri's castle, otherwise Hinata was a complete moron for attempting to destroy it herself.

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

Base Naruto's normal Rasengan in the Last destroying something that Toneri stated would tank both Moon and Planet level destruction simultaneously with no damage

You mean the Tenseigan? The tenseigan wouldn't be tanking both their destruction's because it is incased within the moon, not between their collision so it would probably be moon level at most. The Tenseigan itself also shouldn't be as hard to destroy as the shield it produced around Toneri's castle, otherwise Hinata was a complete moron for attempting to destroy it herself.

So it seems you conceded on the ETSO part? ok then, that puts Naruto above the Saiyan Saga and he one shots them Planetary+ fodder at best GG

Toneri stated the Tensigan and the Moon Chamber were going to tank the destruction of the Earth and Moon actually

Hinata was desperate really, we can all be kinda moronic when we are like that. But eh, I don't really care

She has nice tits and that makes up for it πŸ—Ώ

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@animefreak1: That's what the panel says, you guys do Whatever you want with that.

I already gave him the scan but thanks anyways

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Regular Adult Naruto stomps any DBZ character up to SSJ3 goku, if this Naruto is any more powerful he clears DBZ. Will gladly CaV this claim upon release.

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@animefreak1:

So it seems you conceded on the ETSO part? ok then, that puts Naruto above the Saiyan Saga and he one shots them Planetary+ fodder at best GG

No, all you said was the characters never said it wasn't neccessary so that doesn't really counter the chakra stabilizing Kaguya's form on-screen.

Toneri stated the Tensigan and the Moon Chamber were going to tank the destruction of the Earth and Moon actually

Because the Tenseigan was protecting the castle with a barrier. That doesn't directly scale to the Tenseigan itself.

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#39  Edited By PurpleDeaDragon

@animefreak1: To be fair, the Moon wasn't really going to crash with the planet. Not as whole object at least. The novel states that the Moon would Break apart before reaching the Earth. Which is what would really happen in our moon got too close to our planet.

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So the planetary destruction they were talking about was the pieces of the moon raining over the planet and killing everything on the surface, not planet busting. It is also more logical as Toneri would still need a place to live.

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

So it seems you conceded on the ETSO part? ok then, that puts Naruto above the Saiyan Saga and he one shots them Planetary+ fodder at best GG

No, all you said was the characters never said it wasn't neccessary so that doesn't really counter the chakra stabilizing Kaguya's form on-screen.

Toneri stated the Tensigan and the Moon Chamber were going to tank the destruction of the Earth and Moon actually

Because the Tenseigan was protecting the castle with a barrier. That doesn't directly scale to the Tenseigan itself.

1. You conceded on the ETSO scaling to Kaguya I mean πŸ—Ώ

2. Actually it does, you claimed she needed it to stabilize and I told you there was no statement proving this and since you have not rebuttable this therefore it my win on that. Also it wouldn't matter even if I agreed with you and said it did stabalize her cause that has nothing to do with the ETSO scaling to her anyways so I don't know why you keep brining this up

3. That doesn't even make any sense.......... You just contradicted yourself. So you concede the Tensigan protecting the place but somehow doesn't scale even though it the same chakra??? Bruh.........

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When will the sacred dbz fandom accept that Naruto surpassed Saiyan saga since the war arc.

Raditz is fodder to any Naruto's god tiers,

Nappa is slightly above him.

Vegeta can only planet bust with galick gun. He got screwed by a total fodder like Yajirobe.

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What did he do?

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@purpledeadragon:

Actually was stated it was going to be "complete planetary annihilation

Complete Planetary Annhilation + Toneris statement on the collision supersedes the scientists prediction

Toneri later on says the Moon will collide with the planet the guy actually doing it > her prediction on something thats not actually happened yet

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#44  Edited By GangOrca

@animefreak1:

1. You conceded on the ETSO scaling to Kaguya I mean πŸ—Ώ

2. Actually it does, you claimed she needed it to stabilize and I told you there was no statement proving this and since you have not rebuttable this therefore it my win on that. Also it wouldn't matter even if I agreed with you and said it did stabalize her cause that has nothing to do with the ETSO scaling to her anyways so I don't know why you keep brining this up

Oh no, I still think Kaguya doesn't directly scale to ETSB, never said I conceeded. It is far too convenient for IT chakra not being what stabilized her form since once she gathered that chakra, she was back to her normal self. Still not seeing how Naruto scales to ETSB through Kaguya alone when Kaguya was not just using her own chakra for ETSB.

3. That doesn't even make any sense.......... You just contradicted yourself. So you concede the Tensigan protecting the place but somehow doesn't scale even though it the same chakra??? Bruh.........

You do know that the Tenseigan producing a powerful barrier doesn't mean the Tenseigan itself isn't as durable or more than it's barrier, right? It's not a contradiction simply because the power of the barrier comes from the Tenseigan.

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

1. You conceded on the ETSO scaling to Kaguya I mean πŸ—Ώ

2. Actually it does, you claimed she needed it to stabilize and I told you there was no statement proving this and since you have not rebuttable this therefore it my win on that. Also it wouldn't matter even if I agreed with you and said it did stabalize her cause that has nothing to do with the ETSO scaling to her anyways so I don't know why you keep brining this up

Oh no, I still think Kaguya doesn't directly scale to ETSB, never said I conceeded. It is far too convenient for IT chakra not being what stabilized her form since once she gathered that chakra, she was back to her normal self. Still not seeing how Naruto scales to ETSB through Kaguya alone.

3. That doesn't even make any sense.......... You just contradicted yourself. So you concede the Tensigan protecting the place but somehow doesn't scale even though it the same chakra??? Bruh.........

You do know that the Tenseigan producing a powerful barrier doesn't mean the Tenseigan itself isn't as durable or more right? It's not a contradiction simply because the power of the barrier comes from the Tenseigan.

1. And once again I told it doesn't even matter bruh, was never stated it stabilized her, and it still would NOT matter even if it did. Still has nothing to with her scaling to the ETSO in the first place πŸ—Ώ

2. Tenseigan scales to its barrier because ppl scale relative to their jutsu so no

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@purpledeadragon:

Nice Don't care, Toneri the guy actually doing it later says the Moon and Earth are going to collide so nothing here matters πŸ—Ώ

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@purpledeadragon:

Actually was stated it was going to be "complete planetary annihilation

Complete Planetary Annhilation + Toneris statement on the collision supersedes the scientists prediction

Toneri later on says the Moon will collide with the planet the guy actually doing it > her prediction on something thats not actually happened yet

May I see the source for that? The quotes I mean. Where was that stated. Scans would do. Also. The Moon would have collided with the planet, Just in pieces as the Earth's gravity pull is stronger than the gravity that holds the moon together.

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@animefreak1:

1. And once again I told it doesn't even matter bruh, was never stated it stabilized her, and it still would NOT matter even if it did. Still has nothing to with her scaling to the ETSO in the first place πŸ—Ώ

It does because that's the chakra she used to form ETSB as well as her own, she didn't do it by herself. You said the entire shinobi put together are only 1/3rd of BM Naruto but if that's the case than how come Kaguya pulled such fodder chakra for herself to begin with? How come at just the time she pulled it, the Juubi so happened to become stabilized? That seems like more than just a coincidence.

2. Tenseigan scales to its barrier because ppl scale relative to their jutsu so no

Maybe in terms of power but not in terms of durability. Do you think Madara is more durable than his own perfect Susanoo because the power comes from him?

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@gangorca said:

@animefreak1:

1. And once again I told it doesn't even matter bruh, was never stated it stabilized her, and it still would NOT matter even if it did. Still has nothing to with her scaling to the ETSO in the first place πŸ—Ώ

It does because that's the chakra she used to form ETSB as well as her own, she didn't do it by herself. You said the entire shinobi put together are only 1/3rd of BM Naruto but if that's the case than how come Kaguya pulled such fodder chakra for herself to begin with? How come at just the time she pulled it, the Juubi so happened to become stabilized? That seems like more than just a coincidence.

2. Tenseigan scales to its barrier because ppl scale relative to their jutsu so no

Maybe in terms of power but not in terms of durability. Do you think Madara is more durable than his own perfect Susanoo because the power comes from him?

1. Chakra that isn't even 1/3 BM Naruto chakra

2. She only took cause she was fatigued from fighting Naruto for like half a day. It basically did nothing but she took it back ( it was hers to being with anyways )

3. Once again, Stabilization has nothing to do with this crap. I am going to stop addressing this point completely now because you failed several times over to prove why this has nothing to do with why this correlates with her not scaling to ETSO

4. AP=Durability in Naruto. We literally have multiple examples of this. 8th gate Guy body breaking down because he couldn't handle the power his body was exerting. Hell even in the Last, Toneri body started to mutate and grow out of control when his body couldn't start to handle how much energy he was absorbing