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#1  Edited By daak1212


Nate Phoenix
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edit:  For the sake of the match Legion has the ability to acess any personality to combat Nate grey with the exception of the time traveling abilty since it would be a stomp
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#2  Edited By karrob

Nate Grey

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#3  Edited By Cosmic_Falcon

I think Nate would wreck Legion

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#4  Edited By blackadam

good fight, i don't know about this one. recently legion erased the elder gods of limbo.in the same issue, cyclops mentioned that legion was capable of rewritte reality.
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#5  Edited By HellionVulcan

Right now X-man if Legion ever reached his potential i might change my answer .@blackadam said:

" good fight, i don't know about this one. recently legion erased the elder gods of limbo.in the same issue, cyclops mentioned that legion was capable of rewritte reality. "
cyclops saying it really holds no worth as like spider-man sentry fought galactus to a standstill its never shown so we don't know .
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#7  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator

I'm going with Nate. Legion is potentially more powerful, but don't see how Legion can hurt Nate outside of the Astral Plane. Three reasons;
 
1. It's Nate's primary ability. Therefore, I'd imagine he has more experience.
2. I haven't seen Legion perform many inmpressive feats.
3. Legion doesn't exactly have his head on straight. Plus, Nate showed in Dark X-Men that he is pretty good at manipulating a person's emotions (I think, anyway).

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#8  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
Plus, Nate showed in Dark X-Men that he is pretty good at manipulating a person's emotions (I think, anyway). 
Are you referring to what Nate said to Sentry about them being friends before Sentry's causing the world to forget his existence? Because if so, I think that may have simply been instability on Sentry's part, not a telepathic push on Nate's, since, IIRC, he said to Osborn that he simply told the truth.
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#9  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Silver2467: 
 
Not that. That was, as you said, Sentry being.... Sentry.
 
But from what I remember, didn't he play around with the Dark X-Men's psyche a little? I don't mean telepathically, but just verbally. Didn't he start using Mimic's mental stability against him? I'm not sure now.
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#10  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan said:
" @Silver2467:   Not that. That was, as you said, Sentry being.... Sentry.
Hahaha. 
 
But from what I remember, didn't he play around with the Dark X-Men's psyche a little? I don't mean telepathically, but just verbally. Didn't he start using Mimic's mental stability against him? I'm not sure now. "
He might have. I need to go over that series again. Someone corrected me on an important detail surrounding that in another thread a while ago, and I still have to reread it.
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#11  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Silver2467: 
 
Me too. I hated how it ended, but the rest of it was pretty good.
 
PS: WHERE IS X-MAN?!?! Dark Reign is over! I want X-Man back in mainstream comics!
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#12  Edited By Silver2467
@JediXMan: No idea. Writers seem to have a tendency to have him appear and then leave for long periods of time. Not really sure why. He should just have another ongoing or something. 
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#13  Edited By JediXMan  Moderator
@Silver2467: 
 
His own series or - at the very least - be a recurring character in X-Men: Legacy.
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#14  Edited By Skaddix

Nate Grey will be in New Mutants 25 where the New Mutants are hunting him and Blink down if promos are to be believed . Legion will be X-men Legacy 248.  I would say Nate wins he is more sane so that should give him an advantage.  The supposed "Elder Gods" were absolutely featless so I am not sure how to even rank that win for David.
 
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#15  Edited By Lance Bastro

i remember legion had time manipulation.

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#16  Edited By blackadam
@HellionVulcan said:
"Right now X-man if Legion ever reached his potential i might change my answer . @blackadam said:
" good fight, i don't know about this one. recently legion erased the elder gods of limbo.in the same issue, cyclops mentioned that legion was capable of rewritte reality. "
cyclops saying it really holds no worth as like spider-man sentry fought galactus to a standstill its never shown so we don't know . "


 
 

except for the fact he says: "the last time he did something like that he destroyed our reality". he is not especulating like spiderman did, he actually remember that happening
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#17  Edited By Jonny_Anonymous

@HellionVulcan said:

Right now X-man if Legion ever reached his potential i might change my answer .@blackadam said:
" good fight, i don't know about this one. recently legion erased the elder gods of limbo.in the same issue, cyclops mentioned that legion was capable of rewritte reality. "
cyclops saying it really holds no worth as like spider-man sentry fought galactus to a standstill its never shown so we don't know .

Legion created reality during Age of X

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#18  Edited By jeanroygrant

Didn't Legion teleport the while city of Asgard to a next dimesion, while Odin was present?

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#19  Edited By Hyperlight

Nate seems to be more skilled at his primary powers then Legion is at his. Legions instability will be his undoing.....

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#20  Edited By Killemall

Ability to access any personality would include Moira and True Legion personality, Nate is in trouble then.

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#21  Edited By Hyper_God

Legion stomps , hard .

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#22  Edited By czarny_samael666

Moira ftw.

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#23  Edited By BMEZY

Wouldn't it make sense for Nate (being the superior psi in general) to take advantage of Legion's fragile psyche and mental instability

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#24  Edited By Blacharrt1

@BMEZY: If only he wasn't bested by Green Goblin...

I'd give this to Legion.

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#25  Edited By guled120

No matter how skilled Nate is, he has not what it takes to bring someone like Legion down, his look will just kill him. David has the power to shut down mutant's abilities as well as activating their X-Gene. And in that case Legion stomps

But then Nate is hosting the Phoenix Force, and that is another story, even if legion time travels then so can the hosts of the Phoenix and legion is nowhere near that level of power.

So by being PF's host Nate wins, without then David wins. Legion would see his doom coming bfr the battle starts if he goes against any host of the PF.

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I think Legion would obliterate Nate if David Haller's personality is in control, giving him complete control over his powers, but if some random personalities are in control of Legion Nate wins.

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Legion.

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Nate stomps. David is powerful, but nothing like Nate.

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Legion

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@rhysdurden:

How, what has Nate done that even compares?

Legion is a universal reality warper (stuffed 616 in a box then hid it away) he also erased the Elder God's of Limbo from existence. I'm a huge Nate fan, but even I can see that Nate take's an L here.

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Nate is probably a more powerful, or more like, well-versed telepath, but overall power? He's so much beneath Legion it isn't even funny. At best Nate is a minor reality warper, Legion is universal+ easily.

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I'll give it to the God Mutant...and I'm not talking Nate.

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@x_insignia1: didn't Nate's power matched those of Dark Phoenix? He's a lot more powerful than David.

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Nate by far, too much refined control and bounds more power.

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If David’s only personality limit is Time-Sink, then he murders Nate in a mismatch

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Legion stomps

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Legion.

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@rhysdurden:

If you investigate further only the green phoenix was ever tested on the test Moors described.

Secondly I would put Legion above DP. He even recreated his own during his AofX storyline. On top of that Legion has warped reality on a Universal scale. He wins.

Right. Red and Green Phoenix are two different things

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@lordoffate: Red Phoenix is Dark Phoenix. Green Phoenix is the regular Phoenix incarnation.

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#46  Edited By VictorVonDoom

The picture shows nate with the phoenix,so I am going to assume you mean he is the shaman.Noone on earth can compete with him,due to the fact he is supposed to be the most powerful mutant ever created.Even if Legion stopped time,he couldn't kill X-man because he is a psionic entity and therefore CANNOT be killed.While they are two of my favourite characters,Nate could kill David,albeit inadvertently,in his sleep,literally.He almost destroyed earth while having a nightmare...This is not even close as Shaman Nate Grey, with the phoenix or without it,can only be killed by the Beyonders or the One-Above-All.Actually,now that I think about it,Nate could kill the Beyonders if he knew their weakness,time manipulation,something which nate has been shown to possess in a limited manner (temporal stasis).

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@victorvondoom: Nates never had the Phoenix that’s just he way he manifested his power there.

On topic David wins handily, outside of Franklin Richards he’s the most powerful mutant around.

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@supermanwithatan01:
Marquis of Death and Mad Jim Jaspers would beat Franklin.

Nates power is said to rival the Phoenix Force (Psionic Force anyway). He can even survive without a body and beat Legion in his astral form so I'd say Nate.

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@smoothsanta: I am not sure I agree with that but at those power levels literally anything is possible.

Nates never had Phoenix level feats just statements. I love his character but unfortunatly he’s well below David as we’ve never gotten to see his full potential. I would love for him to get the Phoenix force and be the definitive Phoenix, then let Jean rejoin the X-Men and have her own life.

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@supermanwithatan01: Jean came back, sent the Phoenix away and is leading her own team of X-Men.